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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:57, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:Aeronautical Institute of Bangladesh ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Parent article, Aeronautical Institute of Bangladesh, has been deleted at AfD. Only one bluelink. Jenks24 ( talk) 23:10, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was revert to the version dated 15 November 2011. There was little discussion, and therefore no consensus, regarding the template's original wording ('This article is incomplete. ...'), and so I recommend a new discussion if anyone wishes to pursue its deletion. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 07:02, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:Incomplete ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Last TFD resulted in a Keep !vote due to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Somehow, the wording of the template has shifted from "This article is incomplete and may require expansion or cleanup." — which is somewhat vague, but at least accessible — to the vague and useless "Please expand this article." In short, it has become a clone of {{ expand}}, which was deleted for the very reason of being vague and overused.

I have no idea why the verbiage was changed. No discussion on the talk page or in the TFD suggested that the template should be changed to THE EXACT SAME WORDING as the now-deleted {{ expand}}. What was the point?

Having only recently been reworded, its "reason" paramter is unused in nearly every transclusion. Either delete or revert to the previous, less vague wording — the word "incomplete" at least narrows it down to "is missing information about something", which is more justifiable than just "needs expansion". Ten Pound Hammer( What did I screw up now?) 07:01, 28 April 2012 (UTC) reply

  • Agree with TPH. revert to "incomplete, please expand"
Template_talk:Incomplete#Edit_request_from_.2C_13_November_2011 suggests that it should have been changed "incomplete, please expand" to "incomplete" so as to reduce redundancy (I don't care about this either way). However the actual change made was to throw away "incomplete" and keep "expand". This was simply wrong (and then created duplication with {{ expand}}). Andy Dingley ( talk) 16:05, 28 April 2012 (UTC) reply
The current template code says:
{{Expand further|1={{{1|article}}}|date={{{date|}}}|reason={{{reason|}}}|further=no|type=content}}
And I said you should convert to redirect instead of intermediate transclusion, so, as the template currently translcudes {{ expand further}}, the implication is to redirect it to said template. 70.49.124.225 ( talk) 05:14, 29 April 2012 (UTC) reply
This is a result of trying to put a quart ({{ Incomplete}}) into a pint pot {{ Expand further}}. Expand further was a highly specialised template, one might even say niche. Failing to realise that Incomplete should stand on it's own, not surprisingly Expand further got moved to Expand article. A template with this function is needed, and every attempts to remove it, simply wreaks more havok. Lets leave well alone now. Keep unchanged. Rich  Farmbrough, 01:42, 1 May 2012 (UTC). reply
Do you still agree with this even now that {{ Expand}} is finally deleted? What purpose do you think "Expand this article" serves when no elaboration is ever made on what needs expansion? Ten Pound Hammer( What did I screw up now?) 20:32, 4 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:30, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:FWB ISIN ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, unused — Justin (koavf)TCM 20:51, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:30, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:PND ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, several uses. Slap on {{ Being deleted}}, place in the holding cell, replace with {{ DNB portal}}, and then delete. — Justin (koavf)TCM 20:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Replace with {{ DNB portal}} or {{ Authority control}}. (The id numbers haven't changed) -- Kolja21 ( talk) 06:08, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:DM ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, few uses. Replace with {{ DNB portal}}Justin (koavf)TCM 20:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Replace, but check id number first. (Some numbers have been merged.) -- Kolja21 ( talk) 05:32, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Examples: Johann Joseph Abert [1] and Max Colpet [2]. -- Kolja21 ( talk) 02:06, 8 May 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was speedy delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:31, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:Sample infobox television ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Speedy delete per G2. As the name implies, it's a test page for the existing television infobox mirroring the destination article's info.

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:Shake It Up: Live 2 Dance track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only a few songs in list have articles which are already transcluded in the template {{ Shake It Up}}. The album article itself is a better source for the complete track listing anyway. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 17:38, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

You can't just delete all of my articles like this because this article is a good source, so if you delete this there will be consequences!! ~ RomeAntic 14 18:41, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was merge  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:ISO 639 name ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Iso2lang ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unnecessary duplicate of template:Language. This was brought up on the talk page last year, but for some reason the discussion did not continue.  Liam987  16:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:iso2lang is also a duplicate.  Liam987  16:17, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply
On Template talk:ISO 639 name. And why is it necessary to have three templates ( Template:Language, Template:ISO 639 name, Template:Iso2lang) doing the exact same thing? It was also suggested on one of those talk pages that these templates be reconfigured using the magic word {{#Language}}, similar to the language template on Commons.  Liam987  06:11, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
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Combined Carolina Television Network Templates

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:28, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:CBS Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:NBC Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fox Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:CW Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:MNTV Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:PBS Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Other Carolina Stations ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:ABC Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:ION Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unnecessary templates created by new user (and the only edits from this user) without discussion. All changes that lead to the templates creations have been reverted and the templates are now orphan. NeutralhomerTalk10:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC) 10:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:American Life track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bedtime Stories track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Confessions on a Dance Floor track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Erotica track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Hard Candy track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:I'm Breathless track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Like a Prayer track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Like a Virgin track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Madonna track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:MDNA track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Music track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ray of Light track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:True Blue track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Following the lead and the reasoning behind the deletion of Template:Music of the Sun track listing, too many of the songs don't even have links/articles, and the ones that do are sufficently served by the navigational box {{ Madonna songs}}. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 03:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:Ray of Light ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seems to be filled with tangentially related articles in an attempt to justify use of template. Other items are easily linkable from the album and song articles (writers, producers, etc.) and existing artist templates. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 02:15, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:57, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:Aeronautical Institute of Bangladesh ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Parent article, Aeronautical Institute of Bangladesh, has been deleted at AfD. Only one bluelink. Jenks24 ( talk) 23:10, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was revert to the version dated 15 November 2011. There was little discussion, and therefore no consensus, regarding the template's original wording ('This article is incomplete. ...'), and so I recommend a new discussion if anyone wishes to pursue its deletion. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 07:02, 21 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:Incomplete ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Last TFD resulted in a Keep !vote due to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Somehow, the wording of the template has shifted from "This article is incomplete and may require expansion or cleanup." — which is somewhat vague, but at least accessible — to the vague and useless "Please expand this article." In short, it has become a clone of {{ expand}}, which was deleted for the very reason of being vague and overused.

I have no idea why the verbiage was changed. No discussion on the talk page or in the TFD suggested that the template should be changed to THE EXACT SAME WORDING as the now-deleted {{ expand}}. What was the point?

Having only recently been reworded, its "reason" paramter is unused in nearly every transclusion. Either delete or revert to the previous, less vague wording — the word "incomplete" at least narrows it down to "is missing information about something", which is more justifiable than just "needs expansion". Ten Pound Hammer( What did I screw up now?) 07:01, 28 April 2012 (UTC) reply

  • Agree with TPH. revert to "incomplete, please expand"
Template_talk:Incomplete#Edit_request_from_.2C_13_November_2011 suggests that it should have been changed "incomplete, please expand" to "incomplete" so as to reduce redundancy (I don't care about this either way). However the actual change made was to throw away "incomplete" and keep "expand". This was simply wrong (and then created duplication with {{ expand}}). Andy Dingley ( talk) 16:05, 28 April 2012 (UTC) reply
The current template code says:
{{Expand further|1={{{1|article}}}|date={{{date|}}}|reason={{{reason|}}}|further=no|type=content}}
And I said you should convert to redirect instead of intermediate transclusion, so, as the template currently translcudes {{ expand further}}, the implication is to redirect it to said template. 70.49.124.225 ( talk) 05:14, 29 April 2012 (UTC) reply
This is a result of trying to put a quart ({{ Incomplete}}) into a pint pot {{ Expand further}}. Expand further was a highly specialised template, one might even say niche. Failing to realise that Incomplete should stand on it's own, not surprisingly Expand further got moved to Expand article. A template with this function is needed, and every attempts to remove it, simply wreaks more havok. Lets leave well alone now. Keep unchanged. Rich  Farmbrough, 01:42, 1 May 2012 (UTC). reply
Do you still agree with this even now that {{ Expand}} is finally deleted? What purpose do you think "Expand this article" serves when no elaboration is ever made on what needs expansion? Ten Pound Hammer( What did I screw up now?) 20:32, 4 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:30, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:FWB ISIN ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, unused — Justin (koavf)TCM 20:51, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:30, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:PND ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, several uses. Slap on {{ Being deleted}}, place in the holding cell, replace with {{ DNB portal}}, and then delete. — Justin (koavf)TCM 20:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Replace with {{ DNB portal}} or {{ Authority control}}. (The id numbers haven't changed) -- Kolja21 ( talk) 06:08, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:DM ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, few uses. Replace with {{ DNB portal}}Justin (koavf)TCM 20:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Replace, but check id number first. (Some numbers have been merged.) -- Kolja21 ( talk) 05:32, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Examples: Johann Joseph Abert [1] and Max Colpet [2]. -- Kolja21 ( talk) 02:06, 8 May 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was speedy delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:31, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:Sample infobox television ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Speedy delete per G2. As the name implies, it's a test page for the existing television infobox mirroring the destination article's info.

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:Shake It Up: Live 2 Dance track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only a few songs in list have articles which are already transcluded in the template {{ Shake It Up}}. The album article itself is a better source for the complete track listing anyway. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 17:38, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

You can't just delete all of my articles like this because this article is a good source, so if you delete this there will be consequences!! ~ RomeAntic 14 18:41, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was merge  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:ISO 639 name ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Iso2lang ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unnecessary duplicate of template:Language. This was brought up on the talk page last year, but for some reason the discussion did not continue.  Liam987  16:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:iso2lang is also a duplicate.  Liam987  16:17, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply
On Template talk:ISO 639 name. And why is it necessary to have three templates ( Template:Language, Template:ISO 639 name, Template:Iso2lang) doing the exact same thing? It was also suggested on one of those talk pages that these templates be reconfigured using the magic word {{#Language}}, similar to the language template on Commons.  Liam987  06:11, 7 May 2012 (UTC) reply
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Combined Carolina Television Network Templates

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:28, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:CBS Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:NBC Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fox Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:CW Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:MNTV Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:PBS Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Other Carolina Stations ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:ABC Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:ION Carolina ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unnecessary templates created by new user (and the only edits from this user) without discussion. All changes that lead to the templates creations have been reverted and the templates are now orphan. NeutralhomerTalk10:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC) 10:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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Madonna track listing templates

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:American Life track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bedtime Stories track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Confessions on a Dance Floor track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Erotica track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Hard Candy track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:I'm Breathless track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Like a Prayer track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Like a Virgin track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Madonna track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:MDNA track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Music track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ray of Light track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:True Blue track listing ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Following the lead and the reasoning behind the deletion of Template:Music of the Sun track listing, too many of the songs don't even have links/articles, and the ones that do are sufficently served by the navigational box {{ Madonna songs}}. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 03:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC) reply

Template:Ray of Light ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seems to be filled with tangentially related articles in an attempt to justify use of template. Other items are easily linkable from the album and song articles (writers, producers, etc.) and existing artist templates. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 02:15, 6 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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