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Keep, oh well expect a long term revert war, it a shame the porr quailty template are considered replacments. It should also be noted that the tag was also improperly placed on the templte so that other users could not see, the temple was removed as an noting but an attempt to speed up the deletion, which is the primay tatic in deprecheating a templet, to subrvert process. the decdion on a replacement was on made 3 days after it was noted on the the so called replaced template. All i can say is revert war. I would hve no problem in working with user to creat a btter infobox for use in city article on the uintes states, which the so called "replacemet" baox id for, but since the involed user seeom to have no intrest in improving the infobox, as their so caled replaxement is hardly an improvment over what the city box was, is bascly a broken car with a new paint job, or the obx what they seek to replace, which works better and is far easier to use and takes up less coding space. --
Boothy443 |
trácht ar05:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Merge Both templates seem to have positive features, and I'd suggest incorporating the additional information of the new one with the old one so that the best possible--and most informative--template exists.
PAWiki07:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete, although whatever positive features of the US template should be incorporated into the new. It is only natural that Wiki would eventually adopt a unique infobox suitable for use for cities worldwide. If there is a problem with this I would suggest, instead of forwarding vague arguments of a propriatory nature, listing all 'problems' and what to preserve point by point.
THEPROMENADER07:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete. Although I've always been partial to the U.S. City template, that look and most of its features have already been adopted into the generic city infobox. Any remaining positive aspects need to completely assimilated into the generic template. --
Mad Max16:55, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment How far along is the conversion process? If this is deleted, will we be left with numerous articles with unsightly dead templates? I'm all for the conversion, but not if it damages article quality.
youngamerican (
talk)
12:58, 4 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment If the closing administrator determines that the outcome of this discussion is delete, the template should be listed in the
holding cell under the to orphan section (at the bottom of this page). The template won't actually be deleted until the conversion/orphaning is complete. As of right now there are still about 101 pages left to convert. (When this template was nominated just three days ago there were closer to 160.) —
Jnk[
talk15:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete. I like the current look of this template, but it presents a nearly identical data set as
Infobox City, which is in use in a
far larger number of pages and is more flexible. I think it's more important that the infobox for towns and cities is consistent across the encyclopedia. —
Jnk[
talk19:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)reply
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The userbox seems to have originally been intended as humorous (as evidenced by the mentioning of nuclear bombing vandals), though delete it anyways as it does violate
WP:AGF--
☆TBC☆ (aka Tree Biting Conspiracy)
05:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
To be blunt, that's crap. Assuming good faith means that we try to help vandals become active contributors, and only block them if it's absolutely necessary. "Exterminating" them all would stop us from getting many good contributors, including some of our best that we have today. --
Rory09619:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Userfy and delete Really too stupid to be in template space.-
User:Gangsta-Easter-Bunny/Sig-14:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Keep. It does not violate
WP:AGF. If someone's a vandal, they're no longer acting in good faith. An
WP:AGF violation would be a box that says, "middle school students should be banned." We all know that 90% of them are vandals, but it's very important that we assume good faith because the other 10% are worth nurturing and training to be good editors. --
M@rēino21:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep. It isn't accusing any specific users or kinds of users of being incorrigible vandals, so it's not assuming bad faith. We all know that there are some users who sign on just to %$& around and annoy serious wikipedians; acknowledging that is a simple statement of fact. More importantly, this userbox is clearly a joke. No one would seriously advocate using nuclear weapons against immature little jackasses. Other far less relevent joke userboxes have been kept; if we're going to start deleting non-serious userboxes, start with the totally purposeless ones like the gangster and fictional disease ones above. If nothing else, this one lets a user blow off a little steam on their user page so they can return to the recent pages patrol (or wherever it was they found the vandalism that pissed them off) with a cool head. --
Icarus04:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep -- This is not a general-purpose template; it's a UBX. Users are entitled to their opinions and entitled to air them; and this is good for the community and good for the project. Please don't nominate in-policy UBX.
John Reid21:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)reply
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Kill it with fire. If people want this they can create it manually or steal it from someone else's userpage like everybody did already. No need to waste space with a template. --
Rory09604:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete But first inform people who use it that is not indeed a continuation of the practical joke (referring to the message above it that says the template is up for deletion).
Chuck(척뉴넘)04:51, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
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Keep, oh well expect a long term revert war, it a shame the porr quailty template are considered replacments. It should also be noted that the tag was also improperly placed on the templte so that other users could not see, the temple was removed as an noting but an attempt to speed up the deletion, which is the primay tatic in deprecheating a templet, to subrvert process. the decdion on a replacement was on made 3 days after it was noted on the the so called replaced template. All i can say is revert war. I would hve no problem in working with user to creat a btter infobox for use in city article on the uintes states, which the so called "replacemet" baox id for, but since the involed user seeom to have no intrest in improving the infobox, as their so caled replaxement is hardly an improvment over what the city box was, is bascly a broken car with a new paint job, or the obx what they seek to replace, which works better and is far easier to use and takes up less coding space. --
Boothy443 |
trácht ar05:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Merge Both templates seem to have positive features, and I'd suggest incorporating the additional information of the new one with the old one so that the best possible--and most informative--template exists.
PAWiki07:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete, although whatever positive features of the US template should be incorporated into the new. It is only natural that Wiki would eventually adopt a unique infobox suitable for use for cities worldwide. If there is a problem with this I would suggest, instead of forwarding vague arguments of a propriatory nature, listing all 'problems' and what to preserve point by point.
THEPROMENADER07:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete. Although I've always been partial to the U.S. City template, that look and most of its features have already been adopted into the generic city infobox. Any remaining positive aspects need to completely assimilated into the generic template. --
Mad Max16:55, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment How far along is the conversion process? If this is deleted, will we be left with numerous articles with unsightly dead templates? I'm all for the conversion, but not if it damages article quality.
youngamerican (
talk)
12:58, 4 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment If the closing administrator determines that the outcome of this discussion is delete, the template should be listed in the
holding cell under the to orphan section (at the bottom of this page). The template won't actually be deleted until the conversion/orphaning is complete. As of right now there are still about 101 pages left to convert. (When this template was nominated just three days ago there were closer to 160.) —
Jnk[
talk15:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete. I like the current look of this template, but it presents a nearly identical data set as
Infobox City, which is in use in a
far larger number of pages and is more flexible. I think it's more important that the infobox for towns and cities is consistent across the encyclopedia. —
Jnk[
talk19:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)reply
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The userbox seems to have originally been intended as humorous (as evidenced by the mentioning of nuclear bombing vandals), though delete it anyways as it does violate
WP:AGF--
☆TBC☆ (aka Tree Biting Conspiracy)
05:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
To be blunt, that's crap. Assuming good faith means that we try to help vandals become active contributors, and only block them if it's absolutely necessary. "Exterminating" them all would stop us from getting many good contributors, including some of our best that we have today. --
Rory09619:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Userfy and delete Really too stupid to be in template space.-
User:Gangsta-Easter-Bunny/Sig-14:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Keep. It does not violate
WP:AGF. If someone's a vandal, they're no longer acting in good faith. An
WP:AGF violation would be a box that says, "middle school students should be banned." We all know that 90% of them are vandals, but it's very important that we assume good faith because the other 10% are worth nurturing and training to be good editors. --
M@rēino21:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep. It isn't accusing any specific users or kinds of users of being incorrigible vandals, so it's not assuming bad faith. We all know that there are some users who sign on just to %$& around and annoy serious wikipedians; acknowledging that is a simple statement of fact. More importantly, this userbox is clearly a joke. No one would seriously advocate using nuclear weapons against immature little jackasses. Other far less relevent joke userboxes have been kept; if we're going to start deleting non-serious userboxes, start with the totally purposeless ones like the gangster and fictional disease ones above. If nothing else, this one lets a user blow off a little steam on their user page so they can return to the recent pages patrol (or wherever it was they found the vandalism that pissed them off) with a cool head. --
Icarus04:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep -- This is not a general-purpose template; it's a UBX. Users are entitled to their opinions and entitled to air them; and this is good for the community and good for the project. Please don't nominate in-policy UBX.
John Reid21:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)reply
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Kill it with fire. If people want this they can create it manually or steal it from someone else's userpage like everybody did already. No need to waste space with a template. --
Rory09604:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete But first inform people who use it that is not indeed a continuation of the practical joke (referring to the message above it that says the template is up for deletion).
Chuck(척뉴넘)04:51, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
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