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Youonlylivetwice ( talk) 07:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC) reply
This invloves a long running edit war and disruptive behavior in multiple articles, namely Sengunthar, Mudaliar and Devadasi: Recent edits by violators: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9],
1. Saedirof ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) has been constantly edit-warring on Sengunthar, Mudaliar and Devadasi using multiple sock puppets and open proxies to push POV. (Check [10], [11], [12]) and was warned by many admins and finally blocked for disruptive behavior and edit-warring constantly. Check [13], [14]. Finally the last check user user results revealed that he was also using open proxies and blocked for a week: CU proof: [15]. Recently he has resumed edit-warring after expiration of block in the same articles: [16], [17], [18], [19]. Also he keeps blatantly lying and reverting by falsely accusing me of being a banned user. He was also warned by admin Jéské Couriano ( talk · contribs) multiple times [20], [21] that he will be blocked if he continued to do this.
2. MarkPC ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) just deletes the exact same references from the article Devadasi which is related to article to Mudaliar and Sengunthar. The account MarkPC ( talk · contribs) has been created for the sole purpose of edit-warring on the article Devadasi, (check [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30] while Saedirof ( talk · contribs) edit-wars on the articles Sengunthar and Mudaliar at the same time. This user was initially found to be a sock of Saedirof ( talk · contribs) (CU proof: [31]) but then later escaped by saying that he only edited Devadasi while Saedirof ( talk · contribs) has edited Mudaliar and Sengunthar . But this is so not true as the 3 articles are closely related.
For example compare the recent edit-summaries by Saedirof ( talk · contribs): [32] and edit-summaries by MarkPC ( talk · contribs): [33], [34]. Look at the exact same sentence structure ("reverting after vandalism by YouOnlyLiveTwice a master puppetteer and a banned user") where they both falsely accuse me of being a "master puppeteer and sock of a banned user".
3. Redlance ( talk · contribs) also mimics the same edits as Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs)and seems to have been created to forge an illusion of multiple users supporting the POV. Check: [35], [36]. RFCU result: [37] proved that he was editing purely through open proxies.
4. Initial RFCU result link: [38] where Saedirof ( talk · contribs) was confirmed as MarkPC ( talk · contribs). But subsequently MarkPC ( talk · contribs) escaped and got himself unblocked by saying that he only edits article Devadasi and that he has never edited the articles Sengunthar and Mudaliar on which Saedirof ( talk · contribs) edit-wars constantly But this is not true as all 3 articles are closely related and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) deletes the exact same references that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) deletes from the articles Mudaliar and Sengunthar. See 1 above for edit diffs of Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and 2 above for edit diffs of MarkPC ( talk · contribs)
4. Multiple warnings by admin Jéské Couriano ( talk · contribs) that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) will be blocked if he kept falsely accusing me that I'm a master puppeteer and sock of a banned user: [39], [40]
5. Admin Thatcher ( talk · contribs) confirms my suspicion that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) edit from the very same ip location: In the most recent RFCU that I filed at 21:24 on 26 February 2008 (UTC), I told that I strongly suspected that both Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) edited from the same location. Admin Thatcher ( talk · contribs) has confirmed this for a fact that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) edit from the exact same location when he replied to a query by Saedirof ( talk · contribs) later at 00:28, 27 February 2008. See proof: [41]. But admin Thatcher ( talk · contribs) could not come to a conclusion based on technical analysis alone and he directed me here. He clearly says that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) could very well be MarkPC ( talk · contribs). To quote him: You and MarkPC edit from the same place. It is possibly a workplace, and I can't tell how many people work there, and certain other features make it look like you are not MarkPC, but that does not rule out that you are not the same person using two computers
Note: It is highly likely that one or more of the above are sock puppets of Mudaliar ( talk · contribs) / Venki123 ( talk · contribs) who were banned by the arbitration committee for heavy trolling and edit-warring on the very same articles, namely Mudaliar, Sengunthar and Devadasi. Check [42].
This is a clear cut case of sock puppetry which is proved beyond doubt by the results of the check user where intially MarkPC ( talk · contribs) is confirmed as a sock of Saedirof ( talk · contribs) but then later escapes as his only edits are on article Devadasi and the admin who unblocked him was unaware. that the articles Devadasi, Sengunthar and Mudaliar are very closely related with overlapping references. Moreover, the confirmation by admin Thatcher ( talk · contribs) that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) edit from the exact same location further reinforces that both Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) are socks of the same person who also comes via open proxies under the alias Redlance ( talk · contribs).
MarkPC has been rechecked at his behest by Jpgordon ( talk · contribs); the result was that MarkPC's previous checkuser link to Saedirof was a false positive, and he was unblocked based on that. I feel it is incorrect to list MarkPC as a possible sock. - Jéské ( v^_^v +2 Pen of Editing) 07:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC) reply
Report was filed by a single purpose attack account. [44] To prevent rules gaming, no action will be taken. If Youonlylivetwice proceeds with these attacks, they will be blocked by me for disruption. Jehochman Talk 14:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC) reply
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Youonlylivetwice ( talk) 07:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC) reply
This invloves a long running edit war and disruptive behavior in multiple articles, namely Sengunthar, Mudaliar and Devadasi: Recent edits by violators: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9],
1. Saedirof ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) has been constantly edit-warring on Sengunthar, Mudaliar and Devadasi using multiple sock puppets and open proxies to push POV. (Check [10], [11], [12]) and was warned by many admins and finally blocked for disruptive behavior and edit-warring constantly. Check [13], [14]. Finally the last check user user results revealed that he was also using open proxies and blocked for a week: CU proof: [15]. Recently he has resumed edit-warring after expiration of block in the same articles: [16], [17], [18], [19]. Also he keeps blatantly lying and reverting by falsely accusing me of being a banned user. He was also warned by admin Jéské Couriano ( talk · contribs) multiple times [20], [21] that he will be blocked if he continued to do this.
2. MarkPC ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) just deletes the exact same references from the article Devadasi which is related to article to Mudaliar and Sengunthar. The account MarkPC ( talk · contribs) has been created for the sole purpose of edit-warring on the article Devadasi, (check [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30] while Saedirof ( talk · contribs) edit-wars on the articles Sengunthar and Mudaliar at the same time. This user was initially found to be a sock of Saedirof ( talk · contribs) (CU proof: [31]) but then later escaped by saying that he only edited Devadasi while Saedirof ( talk · contribs) has edited Mudaliar and Sengunthar . But this is so not true as the 3 articles are closely related.
For example compare the recent edit-summaries by Saedirof ( talk · contribs): [32] and edit-summaries by MarkPC ( talk · contribs): [33], [34]. Look at the exact same sentence structure ("reverting after vandalism by YouOnlyLiveTwice a master puppetteer and a banned user") where they both falsely accuse me of being a "master puppeteer and sock of a banned user".
3. Redlance ( talk · contribs) also mimics the same edits as Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs)and seems to have been created to forge an illusion of multiple users supporting the POV. Check: [35], [36]. RFCU result: [37] proved that he was editing purely through open proxies.
4. Initial RFCU result link: [38] where Saedirof ( talk · contribs) was confirmed as MarkPC ( talk · contribs). But subsequently MarkPC ( talk · contribs) escaped and got himself unblocked by saying that he only edits article Devadasi and that he has never edited the articles Sengunthar and Mudaliar on which Saedirof ( talk · contribs) edit-wars constantly But this is not true as all 3 articles are closely related and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) deletes the exact same references that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) deletes from the articles Mudaliar and Sengunthar. See 1 above for edit diffs of Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and 2 above for edit diffs of MarkPC ( talk · contribs)
4. Multiple warnings by admin Jéské Couriano ( talk · contribs) that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) will be blocked if he kept falsely accusing me that I'm a master puppeteer and sock of a banned user: [39], [40]
5. Admin Thatcher ( talk · contribs) confirms my suspicion that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) edit from the very same ip location: In the most recent RFCU that I filed at 21:24 on 26 February 2008 (UTC), I told that I strongly suspected that both Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) edited from the same location. Admin Thatcher ( talk · contribs) has confirmed this for a fact that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) edit from the exact same location when he replied to a query by Saedirof ( talk · contribs) later at 00:28, 27 February 2008. See proof: [41]. But admin Thatcher ( talk · contribs) could not come to a conclusion based on technical analysis alone and he directed me here. He clearly says that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) could very well be MarkPC ( talk · contribs). To quote him: You and MarkPC edit from the same place. It is possibly a workplace, and I can't tell how many people work there, and certain other features make it look like you are not MarkPC, but that does not rule out that you are not the same person using two computers
Note: It is highly likely that one or more of the above are sock puppets of Mudaliar ( talk · contribs) / Venki123 ( talk · contribs) who were banned by the arbitration committee for heavy trolling and edit-warring on the very same articles, namely Mudaliar, Sengunthar and Devadasi. Check [42].
This is a clear cut case of sock puppetry which is proved beyond doubt by the results of the check user where intially MarkPC ( talk · contribs) is confirmed as a sock of Saedirof ( talk · contribs) but then later escapes as his only edits are on article Devadasi and the admin who unblocked him was unaware. that the articles Devadasi, Sengunthar and Mudaliar are very closely related with overlapping references. Moreover, the confirmation by admin Thatcher ( talk · contribs) that Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) edit from the exact same location further reinforces that both Saedirof ( talk · contribs) and MarkPC ( talk · contribs) are socks of the same person who also comes via open proxies under the alias Redlance ( talk · contribs).
MarkPC has been rechecked at his behest by Jpgordon ( talk · contribs); the result was that MarkPC's previous checkuser link to Saedirof was a false positive, and he was unblocked based on that. I feel it is incorrect to list MarkPC as a possible sock. - Jéské ( v^_^v +2 Pen of Editing) 07:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC) reply
Report was filed by a single purpose attack account. [44] To prevent rules gaming, no action will be taken. If Youonlylivetwice proceeds with these attacks, they will be blocked by me for disruption. Jehochman Talk 14:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC) reply