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(From Discospinster)
Thomasalazar is a prolific contributor to articles about New Mexico subjects. While many of the contributions are useful, he has a habit of removing article maintenance tags, removing legitimate warnings from his talk page soon after they are placed, ignoring attempts to communicate, and leaving uncivil comments on others' talk pages. This habit appears to be afflicting other editors of New-Mexico-related articles.
Before any suspicion of sockpuppetry had occurred to me, I had logged a Wikiquette alert against Thomasalazar user in April: Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts/archive44#User:Thomasalazar. I later mention another user that I suspect of being a sock puppet (EVHS (NNYDL), who stopped editing after I brought it up).
The entry underneath it is from Diamond Joe Quimby making complaints against me. It is interesting to note that I had never come in contact with him/her prior to the Wikiquette alert being logged, leading me to believe that Thomassalazar is a sockpuppet of Diamond Joe Quimby (or vice versa).
Also, another user raised a Wikiquette concern about Diamond Joe Quimby just the day before mine here that indicates similar behaviour.
(From WikiDon)
I also accuse thomasalazar ( talk · contribs) or resorting to sockpuppetry to remove tags:
If you look at the edit histories of both BradlyRM and Thomasalazar (as well as Diamond Joe Quimby, EVHS (NNYDL), Evhs00, and the IPs; at least 20 IPs that I know of) you will see 95% similarities in both pages edited and content of the edits. Both like to upload images of same high school sports and association logos. The both receive the same warnings about 1) images, 2) removing tags from articles, 3) warnings about reverting articles, and 4) etiquette.
Both handles start their pages in very similar fashion:
Additionally, if you look at some of the edit time+date stamps you'll see a nice pattern:
ETC, ETc, Etc, etc,.....
BradlyRM never edits again after this point on May 2.
Since accusing Thomasalazar of being a sockpuppet, he has stopped editing (last edit 15:46, 2 June 2008). ~ WikiDon ( talk) 23:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC) reply
Editing today under: 76.113.50.208 ( talk · contribs). All edits revereted. IP4240207xx ( talk) 02:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
Today, 12 June:
Today's user compare. IP4240207xx ( talk) 03:17, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
IP4240207xx ( talk) 03:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC) ~ WikiDon ( talk) 23:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
Looking at the results of Usercompare, it seems very evident that Thomasalazar is a sock puppet of the primary account, I see 75 edits by it to Ben R. Lujan, 4 by User:Diamond Joe Quimby. The same with this article, User:76.113.50.208 has been also used quite a bit as well, as has User:75.88.237.163, User:207.155.113.123, and User:75.88.237.163 has also been used. I see a lot of combined edits by all the accounts, I'd add a link to the UserCompare results, but the tool seems to not be saving the results correctly. I can send the results to any administrator if they ask for them. Steve Crossin (talk) (email) 21:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC) reply
Don't stop with Thomasalazar, please block:
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::Thank you.
IP4240207xx (
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Wow, lots of things going on here. Let me first say that I appreciate the several months of discretion and restraint by User:Discospinster who has been a model Admin in many ways. I also want to say that Thomasalazar is generally a benign but naive editor. He recently added a table itemizing every single state championship ever won by Los Alamos High School which was clearly lots of work. Mr. Salazar's big flaw is his stubborn insistence on his own way even in defiance of wikipedia convention and consensus. For instance, he keeps posting that copyrighted images of Sparky the Sundevil as if it were part of his school's logo. This type of activity is annoying for the people that have to deal with it. This needs to stop. But I believe that we can talk to him and make him a team player because I think that when he plays by the rules he does the community good.
I haven't (and won't) examine all of the umpteen alleged sock puppets. From what I've seen I believe that most of these probably are cases of sockpuppetry. Some cases may just be friends of Mr. Salazar or possibly other students from EVHS. I haven't had much experiences with sockpuppetry so I wouldn't know how to distinguish between the two. Greg Comlish ( talk) 15:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
This appears to still be open, so I think it's worth noting that today, Diamond Joe Quimby changed his username to PoliticianTexas. Anyone surprised that one of the first things he did post-rename was remove the sockpuppet warnings from his talk page?
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Oh, and he once again nominated himself for bureaucratship (poorly), which has already been reverted. Dori ( Talk • Contribs) 23:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
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New user name, same old sock puppet. ~
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IP4240207xx ( talk) 03:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
This is good:
(at least I got a laugh out of those, and the request for adminship) ~ WikiDon ( talk) 00:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC) reply
Steve provided the results of the usercompare, and the editing patterns confirm that Thomasalazar is a sockpuppet of Diamond Joe Quimby. Thomasalazar has thus been indefinitely blocked by me ( log). PeterSymonds (talk) 23:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC) Addendum Diamond Joe Quimby, now known as PoliticanTexas per a request for rename, has now been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry ( log). Further intervention by a checkuser is probably unnecessary, but if further confirmation is needed then it's still open. PeterSymonds (talk) 21:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC) reply
DJQ was renamed to PoliticianTexas. All the named accounts were confirmed at RFCU as socks of someone, so all are blocked and tagged. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC) reply
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(From Discospinster)
Thomasalazar is a prolific contributor to articles about New Mexico subjects. While many of the contributions are useful, he has a habit of removing article maintenance tags, removing legitimate warnings from his talk page soon after they are placed, ignoring attempts to communicate, and leaving uncivil comments on others' talk pages. This habit appears to be afflicting other editors of New-Mexico-related articles.
Before any suspicion of sockpuppetry had occurred to me, I had logged a Wikiquette alert against Thomasalazar user in April: Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts/archive44#User:Thomasalazar. I later mention another user that I suspect of being a sock puppet (EVHS (NNYDL), who stopped editing after I brought it up).
The entry underneath it is from Diamond Joe Quimby making complaints against me. It is interesting to note that I had never come in contact with him/her prior to the Wikiquette alert being logged, leading me to believe that Thomassalazar is a sockpuppet of Diamond Joe Quimby (or vice versa).
Also, another user raised a Wikiquette concern about Diamond Joe Quimby just the day before mine here that indicates similar behaviour.
(From WikiDon)
I also accuse thomasalazar ( talk · contribs) or resorting to sockpuppetry to remove tags:
If you look at the edit histories of both BradlyRM and Thomasalazar (as well as Diamond Joe Quimby, EVHS (NNYDL), Evhs00, and the IPs; at least 20 IPs that I know of) you will see 95% similarities in both pages edited and content of the edits. Both like to upload images of same high school sports and association logos. The both receive the same warnings about 1) images, 2) removing tags from articles, 3) warnings about reverting articles, and 4) etiquette.
Both handles start their pages in very similar fashion:
Additionally, if you look at some of the edit time+date stamps you'll see a nice pattern:
ETC, ETc, Etc, etc,.....
BradlyRM never edits again after this point on May 2.
Since accusing Thomasalazar of being a sockpuppet, he has stopped editing (last edit 15:46, 2 June 2008). ~ WikiDon ( talk) 23:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC) reply
Editing today under: 76.113.50.208 ( talk · contribs). All edits revereted. IP4240207xx ( talk) 02:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
Today, 12 June:
Today's user compare. IP4240207xx ( talk) 03:17, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
IP4240207xx ( talk) 03:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC) ~ WikiDon ( talk) 23:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
Looking at the results of Usercompare, it seems very evident that Thomasalazar is a sock puppet of the primary account, I see 75 edits by it to Ben R. Lujan, 4 by User:Diamond Joe Quimby. The same with this article, User:76.113.50.208 has been also used quite a bit as well, as has User:75.88.237.163, User:207.155.113.123, and User:75.88.237.163 has also been used. I see a lot of combined edits by all the accounts, I'd add a link to the UserCompare results, but the tool seems to not be saving the results correctly. I can send the results to any administrator if they ask for them. Steve Crossin (talk) (email) 21:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC) reply
Don't stop with Thomasalazar, please block:
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::Thank you.
IP4240207xx (
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02:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
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Wow, lots of things going on here. Let me first say that I appreciate the several months of discretion and restraint by User:Discospinster who has been a model Admin in many ways. I also want to say that Thomasalazar is generally a benign but naive editor. He recently added a table itemizing every single state championship ever won by Los Alamos High School which was clearly lots of work. Mr. Salazar's big flaw is his stubborn insistence on his own way even in defiance of wikipedia convention and consensus. For instance, he keeps posting that copyrighted images of Sparky the Sundevil as if it were part of his school's logo. This type of activity is annoying for the people that have to deal with it. This needs to stop. But I believe that we can talk to him and make him a team player because I think that when he plays by the rules he does the community good.
I haven't (and won't) examine all of the umpteen alleged sock puppets. From what I've seen I believe that most of these probably are cases of sockpuppetry. Some cases may just be friends of Mr. Salazar or possibly other students from EVHS. I haven't had much experiences with sockpuppetry so I wouldn't know how to distinguish between the two. Greg Comlish ( talk) 15:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
This appears to still be open, so I think it's worth noting that today, Diamond Joe Quimby changed his username to PoliticianTexas. Anyone surprised that one of the first things he did post-rename was remove the sockpuppet warnings from his talk page?
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Oh, and he once again nominated himself for bureaucratship (poorly), which has already been reverted. Dori ( Talk • Contribs) 23:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
Back again with several new accounts:
AlbuCrazy (
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Joe Diamond Thomas (
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New user name, same old sock puppet. ~
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with additions by
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21:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
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IP4240207xx ( talk) 03:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
This is good:
(at least I got a laugh out of those, and the request for adminship) ~ WikiDon ( talk) 00:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC) reply
Steve provided the results of the usercompare, and the editing patterns confirm that Thomasalazar is a sockpuppet of Diamond Joe Quimby. Thomasalazar has thus been indefinitely blocked by me ( log). PeterSymonds (talk) 23:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC) Addendum Diamond Joe Quimby, now known as PoliticanTexas per a request for rename, has now been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry ( log). Further intervention by a checkuser is probably unnecessary, but if further confirmation is needed then it's still open. PeterSymonds (talk) 21:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC) reply
DJQ was renamed to PoliticianTexas. All the named accounts were confirmed at RFCU as socks of someone, so all are blocked and tagged. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC) reply