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The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:18, 5 February 2012 (UTC) reply
{{
Sports Car Racing stub}}, created after the relevant propsals discussion was ignored, has now been redirected to {{
Sportscar-autoracing-stub}} (the title agreed upon at proposals). As {{
Sports Car Racing stub}} is mal-named, I propose to delete it and replace it with {{
Sportscar-autoracing-stub}}. Previous discussions:
Proposals,
Discoveries.
Severo
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- Support Does this mean I need to manually change over the current articles to the new template? -- Sabre ball t c 18:17, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Speedy renamed as a CSD G7 case. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:13, 31 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Spelling! Severo T C 08:55, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support, should be speedy under
C2A? --
Qetuth (
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10:26, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
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- It's not clear if stub categories fall under the speedy criteria, although personally I think they should (for C2A and C2D purposes anyway). Severo T C 10:33, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- It was my mistake. I have removed the incorrect spelling through {{db-author}}. Dawynn ( talk) 19:24, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge per nom (to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs). Ruslik_ Zero 14:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC) reply
- Upmerge - A quick scan finds only 42 stubs here. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support Dawynn ( talk) 14:16, 28 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:40, 1 June 2012 (UTC) reply
- West Bosnia Canton is an alternate name for Canton 10. Changing name would conform this name to Canton 10 and parent Category:Canton 10. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:48, 24 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support Dawynn ( talk) 14:16, 28 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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{{ Africa-struct-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was keep
Template is empty. Appears that African nations each have a national-level template. Propose deleting template and making
Category:African building and structure stubs a Parent-only category.
Dawynn (
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- But in the future there may be a case when national-level templates are not appropriate. So, keep. Ruslik_ Zero 14:30, 3 June 2012 (UTC) reply
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{{ Europe-athletics-bio-stub}} and {{ Euro-athletics-bio-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was procedural close, discussion has been moved to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 June 13. Non-admin closure. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:23, 13 June 2012 (UTC) reply
All countries that compete in the European Athletic Association now have country-level templates. Propose deleting these two continent-level templates, and changing Category:European athletics biography stubs to a parent-only category. Dawynn ( talk) 13:57, 19 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support, sounds reasonable. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 13:17, 5 June 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:02, 6 June 2012 (UTC) reply
Every country that competes in the
Asian Athletics Association now has a country-level template. Propose deleting {{
Asia-athletics-bio-stub}} and converting
Category:Asian athletics biography stubs to a parent-only category.
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- Support reasonable idea, no opposition. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 13:16, 5 June 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:36, 17 April 2012 (UTC) reply
Rename:
Due to renaming of permcats. Really, we should make some kind of speedy ability for this type of thing.... Severo T C 13:49, 17 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support Dawynn ( talk) 14:19, 28 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Delete both categories and templates and move/upmerge all article into Category:Republika Srpska geography stubs. Ruslik_ Zero 14:13, 3 June 2012 (UTC) reply
Please review this discussion:
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Regions of Republika Srpska. In accordance with the discussion, delete the following categories, and upmerge all child categories and templates to
Category:Republika Srpska geography stubs.
Dawynn ( talk) 17:24, 16 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:05, 31 May 2012 (UTC) reply
The 1860 template matured to a full category, leaving this category very undersized. Propose to delete category, upmerge templates.
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The result of the discussion was category deleted, template upmerged Reaper Eternal ( talk) 01:45, 28 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Premature. I see no more geography articles in the chosen perm cat. Delete category, upmerge template. No prejudice against recreation once template filled. Dawynn ( talk) 03:31, 12 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:28, 30 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Tried to fill, but still greatly undersized. Upmerge templates and delete category. No prejudice against recreation once templates populated.
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13:31, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Upmerge per Dawynn -- Qetuth ( talk) 11:51, 12 April 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was
Procedural close, moving to CFD as part of SFD deprecation. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 05:24, 9 June 2012 (UTC) There are four regional splits under Category:European sports venue stubs. But there has been a tradition, that once a country fills up, it is taken out of the regional category, and placed under the main European category. The downside is that one of these regional splits ( Category:Western European sports venue stubs) has now seen enough countries mature that it is now undersized. I propose that we do away with the regional splits altogether, and just upmerge any remaining countries into the European category. reply
- Category:Eastern European sports venue stubs (241 P)
- Category:Northern European sports venue stubs (137 P)
- Category:Southern European sports venue stubs (234 P)
- Category:Western European sports venue stubs (34 P)
This would mean that the main European category would then have around 700 articles. At the very least, I'd at least like to get rid of the Western category, and upmerge the remaining countries from that category into the European parent. Dawynn ( talk) 10:40, 11 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support: Certainly East/North/West, and it then seems silly to leave South seperate. Bulgaria category is already speediable and Slovakia, Ukraine, Finland and Serbia are very close (about 50 stubs each), with those 5 countries taken out of the picture it'd be closer to 400 articles total, about half of them from the Southern Europe. -- Qetuth ( talk) 00:22, 12 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support, but consider merging all four to Category:Small nation European sports venue stubs, so as to not overwhelm the parent category, and encourage categorisation by nation wherever not very small. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 13:12, 5 June 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC) – עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Pluralize this one too:
Category:Elementary geometry stubs.
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The result of the discussion was Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:37, 22 January 2012 (UTC) – עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:37, 22 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Propose we rename this one to the plural:
Category:Differential geometry stubs.
Dawynn (
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02:58, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Agree, Rename both - I created both and didn't notice I hadn't pluralised until later. -- Qetuth ( talk) 23:57, 11 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Procedural close, templates have already been redirected. Reaper Eternal ( talk) 01:46, 28 May 2012 (UTC) reply
All other political party stubs use -party-, and -liberal- is also a parent stem:
- {{ Liberalparty-stub}} → {{ Liberal-party-stub}}
- {{ Europe-liberalparty-stub}} → {{ Europe-liberal-party-stub}}
Severo T C 20:53, 10 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was rename – Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:51, 24 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Propose move to
Category:Oswego County, New York Registered Historic Place stubs. (Should be a space after the comma)
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18:41, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Reaper Eternal ( talk) 01:48, 28 May 2012 (UTC) reply
According to category history, others others have unsuccessfully tried to fill category. Category still very undersized. Propose deleting category, and upmerging templates.
Dawynn (
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03:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
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- It currently has 31 entries. I think that that's sufficient to keep it around. Dori ☾ Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 05:02, 21 April 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was delete all. Reaper Eternal ( talk) 01:52, 28 May 2012 (UTC) reply
According to category history, others acknowledge that finding terminology articles will be difficult. Category is severely undersized. Propose deleting category, and upmerging templates.
Dawynn (
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02:59, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Delete all - both templates are now empty and one is proposed for deletion above at Feb 5 Listings (I'll repeat this above) -- Qetuth ( talk) 02:47, 8 February 2012 (UTC) reply
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Redirects for {{ Europe-sports-venue-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC) – עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC) reply
The following redirects are empty. Each of them follows discontinued naming conventions. Nominate all for deletion:
- {{ Euro-sports-venue-stub}}
- {{ Euro-stadium-stub}}
- {{ Europe-stadium-stub}}
(Note: Except for a few tiny countries, the Europe template is not even used anymore, but will be kept for these minor instances) Dawynn ( talk) 13:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was rename. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:39, 2 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Rename to {{
CentralAm-hist-stub}}. Keep original as redirect.
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{{ Zelda stub}}
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The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:37, 2 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Malformed. Unproposed. Unused. Catscan indicates 1 article could be categorized here.
Dawynn (
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12:54, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Delete - between the name beong wrong, and the nearly complete lack of relevant stubs ( only Sylvan (TV series)), I see no reason to keep this one. Note that the permcat and its subcategories only have a total of 45 articles. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:36, 15 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Rename tag, delete category with no prejudice afgainst recreating it as Singapore bus stubs should there be enough stubs at a later date. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:38, 15 January 2012 (UTC) – עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:39, 15 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Only 33 articles, and the parent category (
Category:Singapore transport stubs) is not overflowing. Propose deleting category, upmerging template. Also, I don't see a need to capitalize "bus" in the template. Propose rename to {{
Singapore-bus-stub}}.
Dawynn (
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12:38, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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{{ PuertoRicoBiota-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was Delete both the category and the template. Ruslik_ Zero 13:58, 3 June 2012 (UTC) reply
Found this one. I don't like the name, but not sure what would work best. My first suggestion would be {{
PuertoRico-biota-stub}}. But I don't see other biota templates (not even a {{
biota-stub}}). I might also suggest a pair of templates ({{
PuertoRico-plant-stub}} and {{
PuertoRico-animal-stub}}). There are a couple plant stubs (i.e. {{
Australia-plant-stub}}), but I don't see any regional animal stubs. Please discuss.
Dawynn (
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19:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- The Australia one came about because there are a number of plants unique to Australia. Is the same true for Puerto Rico (and for animals in Puerto Rico too)?
Severo
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13:52, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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- No, the biota of Puerto Rico are not especially unique. This template seems to have been applied to any plants or animals that appear in Puerto Rico regardless of whether they are unique to the island. This is a recipe for madness. I recommend delete. Kaldari ( talk) 21:24, 7 March 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was
Delete, non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 21:58, 29 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Unproposed, malformed, and doubtfully needed at this point. I propose scrapping this and moving all 5 articles to {{ Philippines-hotel-stub}}. Dawynn ( talk) 17:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Delete without leaving redirect. Severo T C 13:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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{{ Theater-struct-stub}} / {{ Theatre-struct-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was Make changes as proposed below by Dawynn. Ruslik_ Zero 14:04, 3 June 2012 (UTC) reply
Both of these upmerge to
Category:Theatre (structure) stubs. I don't see a point in having two main templates for the same category.
Category:Theatre stubs has found a viable solution to aviod the variant spellings by using {{
theat-stub}}. I propose the same here. Propose keeping both of these templates as redirects, but build {{
theat-struct-stub}} as the primary template for this category.
Dawynn (
talk)
12:24, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Doing a little more digging, it appears that there was a {{
Theat-struct-stub}} at one time. But there was desire to have separate templates with the two variant spellings. But the 'theat' abbreviation remains on all other theatre related templates. Revising my proposal -- create two templates:
- {{ theat-struct-stub}}. Redirect {{ theatre-struct-stub}} here.
- {{ US-theat-struct-stub}}. Redirect {{ theater-struct-stub}} here, and move any non-US articles over to {{ theat-struct-stub}}.
- This way, the US can have theaters, and everyone else can have theatres.
Dawynn (
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13:01, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- If we have a -theat- stem, then it should be used throughout, but I can live with your revised proposal.
Severo
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C
13:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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- The variant spellings were wanted in the description. As in "This stub article talks about a specific [theatre / theater]". Under the revised proposal, the actual template names can all be 'theat', while still allowing the US template to be about a specific theater. Are there any other nations where theater is preferred over theatre? Dawynn ( talk) 22:28, 7 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- If we have a -theat- stem, then it should be used throughout, but I can live with your revised proposal.
Severo
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C
13:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Undersized. With only 39 total articles in the permcat, this will struggle to reach population. Delete category, upmerge template.
Dawynn (
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18:56, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:11, 30 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Undersized. Only 21 articles in the permcat. Propose deleting category, upmerging template.
Dawynn (
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18:24, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was withdrawn
14 articles, making this our smallest category. Tried to find more stubs, but can't. Propose deleting category, upmerging template.
Dawynn (
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11:31, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Upmerging to what? I agree that the template has served its purpose, there were once over a hundred G.I. Joe stubs, and most of them have been merged into the lists of characters. But I still think there should be an easy way to separately identify the few stub articles that are left in
WikiProject G.I. Joe, so that they can possibly be expanded on and improved.
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15:55, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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There is. The Statistics tables give very easy identification of all articles at every level, based on how articles are tagged in your wikiproject templates.
Dawynn (
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11:10, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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And here. Upmerge FWIW.
Severo
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12:38, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- I understand that any stub-class articles in the project can be found one way or another by sorting. But my point is that the {{
GIJoe-stub}} template is listed as a more-specific stub tag under several other projects (Animation, Comics, Toys, Fictional Universe, etc.) If the related category is eliminated, what category do you propose it be upmerged to? Because otherwise there is no one category that fits for all of the articles in
Category:G.I. Joe stubs.
Fortdj33 (
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19:26, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Templates allow for upmerging to up to 3 different categories. Seeing as how its currently under 4 categories, we would need to eliminate one. I would suggest either eliminating Animation or Comics, and keeping Toys and Fictional Universe. But that can be a discussion point.
Dawynn (
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21:14, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- I'm fine with eliminating any category that is no longer needed. But we can't just eliminate a category for a character article like Voltar (G.I. Joe), who appeared in the toyline, comic books and cartoon series, and therefore is also part of the G.I. Joe fictional universe. Right now, Category:G.I. Joe stubs serves the purpose of including that article in all of the appropriate categories, and I am uncomfortable with arbitrarily sorting those stub articles into one category or another, when some of them truly belong in all four categories, and others do not. If the G.I. Joe category is deleted, I just make to make sure that the articles are recategorized properly. Fortdj33 ( talk) 19:36, 6 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Templates allow for upmerging to up to 3 different categories. Seeing as how its currently under 4 categories, we would need to eliminate one. I would suggest either eliminating Animation or Comics, and keeping Toys and Fictional Universe. But that can be a discussion point.
Dawynn (
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- I understand that any stub-class articles in the project can be found one way or another by sorting. But my point is that the {{
GIJoe-stub}} template is listed as a more-specific stub tag under several other projects (Animation, Comics, Toys, Fictional Universe, etc.) If the related category is eliminated, what category do you propose it be upmerged to? Because otherwise there is no one category that fits for all of the articles in
Category:G.I. Joe stubs.
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19:26, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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And here. Upmerge FWIW.
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There is. The Statistics tables give very easy identification of all articles at every level, based on how articles are tagged in your wikiproject templates.
Dawynn (
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- Keep As long as people are using it still, and/or it has the potential of being used in the future, let it be. Nothing gained by deleting it, and some might find it useful. Dream Focus 14:14, 9 February 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:02, 30 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Undersized. Another category I was unable to fill. Propose to delete category, upmerge template. No prejudice against recreating category if sufficient articles tagged.
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge to Category:Lesser Poland geography stubs. Ruslik_ Zero 16:25, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Reviewed permcat. Only found 30 stubs. Propose deleting category, upmerging template. No prejudcie against recreating category once template filled.
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge to Category:European railway station stubs. Ruslik_ Zero 16:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Undersized. Only 36 articles in the perm cat. Propose deleting category, upmerging template. No prejudice against recreating category once template filled.
Dawynn (
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19:32, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Sorry, I wasn't aware that there's a minimum population requirement when I created it. My intention is to populate it with the 143 articles from
here. Which category are you proposing for deletion? The Slovenian railway station stubs or the Railway stations in Slovenia category?
- We manage only the stub categories. This discussion concerns only the Slovenian railway station stubs category. Dawynn ( talk) 03:13, 3 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Delete with no prejudice to recreation if 60 stub articles are reached. Severo T C 06:19, 3 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge to Category:Sorbeoconcha stubs. The category now has only 26 articles—less than in January. Ruslik_ Zero 16:41, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Undersized. Only 29 articles in the perm cat. Propose delete.
Dawynn (
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16:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Oppose: The article Thiara (gastropod) alone has almost 20 species with red links. These articles are waiting to be created. We have a bot at work at present in our project creating in the long run several ten thousand articles. In time, all the stub templates with less than 30 blue links will be filled up. There is no need to delete them now, just to be created again in the near future. JoJan ( talk) 09:22, 3 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Delete the category, with no prejudice against recerating when there are 60 stubs tagged with the {{ Thiaridae-stub}}. The bot can tag the new articles with the stub tag (which isn't up for deletion), and when there are enough stubs, the category can be recreated. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:51, 24 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Rename template to {{ TaiKadai-lang-stub}}. Ruslik_ Zero 16:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Unproposed, and the template looks like it would not be accepted. So, this is now up for discussion. Unless there is objection to the category as a whole, I'd suggest at least changing the template to {{
TaiKadai-lang-stub}}.
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{{ Gloucestershire-geo-stub}} / {{ GloucesterShire-geo-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Discussion indicated general opposition. Dawynn ( talk) 03:16, 10 January 2012 (UTC) – Dawynn ( talk) 03:16, 10 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Yes, these two are identically named, with the exception of the capital 'S'. While Wikipedia can handle this just fine, I would think this could easily cause confusion for editors. Propose renaming the second one to {{
GloucesterShireAU-geo-stub}}.
Dawynn (
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02:28, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Oppose
{{GloucesterShire-geo-stub}}was so named to be consistent with other stub templates in the local region such as {{ Cessnock-geo-stub}}, {{ DungogShire-geo-stub}}, {{ GreatLakesCouncil-geo-stub}}, {{ HunterRegion-geo-stub}}, {{ LakeMacquarie-geo-stub}}, {{ Maitland-geo-stub}} and {{ MuswellbrookShire-geo-stub}}, none of which include "AU". There is a map of Australia on{{GloucesterShire-geo-stub}}and{{Gloucestershire-geo-stub}}has a map of England to avoid any confusion. Perhaps{{Gloucestershire-geo-stub}}could be renamed to {{ GloucestershireUK-geo-stub}}. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 03:32, 1 January 2012 (UTC) reply - Rename both per AussieLegend for the UK one, and per Dawynn for the AU one, and delete the remaining redirects (after replacing links) to prevent further confusion. 76.65.128.132 ( talk) 09:07, 1 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Comment Honestly, I don't see how adding AU or UK to either template would reduce the confusion that Dawynn thinks could be caused. All stub templates, except {{ stub}} tend to be confusing because people don't realise most exist. Without redirects, as proposed by 76.65.128.132, if somebody was to use "Gloucestershire" instead of "GloucestershireUK" how would they resolve their mistake? You could follow the category tree from {{ stub}} to find the right template, but is that improving the current situation? I think not. At the moment, if you misspell either word, the differences, and the error, are blindingly obvious. [1] Renaming either template will replace a possible problem with an easy resolution with a likely problem that has a possibly confusing and time consuming resolution. And, of course, we must ask ourselves, has the problem suggested by Dawynn ever actually occurred? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 12:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Willing to let this one go. Dawynn ( talk) 03:10, 10 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:18, 5 February 2012 (UTC) reply
{{
Sports Car Racing stub}}, created after the relevant propsals discussion was ignored, has now been redirected to {{
Sportscar-autoracing-stub}} (the title agreed upon at proposals). As {{
Sports Car Racing stub}} is mal-named, I propose to delete it and replace it with {{
Sportscar-autoracing-stub}}. Previous discussions:
Proposals,
Discoveries.
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- Support Does this mean I need to manually change over the current articles to the new template? -- Sabre ball t c 18:17, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Speedy renamed as a CSD G7 case. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:13, 31 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Spelling! Severo T C 08:55, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support, should be speedy under
C2A? --
Qetuth (
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10:26, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
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- It's not clear if stub categories fall under the speedy criteria, although personally I think they should (for C2A and C2D purposes anyway). Severo T C 10:33, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- It was my mistake. I have removed the incorrect spelling through {{db-author}}. Dawynn ( talk) 19:24, 30 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge per nom (to Category:Ray-finned fish stubs). Ruslik_ Zero 14:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC) reply
- Upmerge - A quick scan finds only 42 stubs here. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support Dawynn ( talk) 14:16, 28 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:40, 1 June 2012 (UTC) reply
- West Bosnia Canton is an alternate name for Canton 10. Changing name would conform this name to Canton 10 and parent Category:Canton 10. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:48, 24 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support Dawynn ( talk) 14:16, 28 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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{{ Africa-struct-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was keep
Template is empty. Appears that African nations each have a national-level template. Propose deleting template and making
Category:African building and structure stubs a Parent-only category.
Dawynn (
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14:45, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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- But in the future there may be a case when national-level templates are not appropriate. So, keep. Ruslik_ Zero 14:30, 3 June 2012 (UTC) reply
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{{ Europe-athletics-bio-stub}} and {{ Euro-athletics-bio-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was procedural close, discussion has been moved to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 June 13. Non-admin closure. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:23, 13 June 2012 (UTC) reply
All countries that compete in the European Athletic Association now have country-level templates. Propose deleting these two continent-level templates, and changing Category:European athletics biography stubs to a parent-only category. Dawynn ( talk) 13:57, 19 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support, sounds reasonable. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 13:17, 5 June 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:02, 6 June 2012 (UTC) reply
Every country that competes in the
Asian Athletics Association now has a country-level template. Propose deleting {{
Asia-athletics-bio-stub}} and converting
Category:Asian athletics biography stubs to a parent-only category.
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- Support reasonable idea, no opposition. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 13:16, 5 June 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:36, 17 April 2012 (UTC) reply
Rename:
Due to renaming of permcats. Really, we should make some kind of speedy ability for this type of thing.... Severo T C 13:49, 17 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support Dawynn ( talk) 14:19, 28 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Delete both categories and templates and move/upmerge all article into Category:Republika Srpska geography stubs. Ruslik_ Zero 14:13, 3 June 2012 (UTC) reply
Please review this discussion:
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Regions of Republika Srpska. In accordance with the discussion, delete the following categories, and upmerge all child categories and templates to
Category:Republika Srpska geography stubs.
Dawynn ( talk) 17:24, 16 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:05, 31 May 2012 (UTC) reply
The 1860 template matured to a full category, leaving this category very undersized. Propose to delete category, upmerge templates.
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The result of the discussion was category deleted, template upmerged Reaper Eternal ( talk) 01:45, 28 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Premature. I see no more geography articles in the chosen perm cat. Delete category, upmerge template. No prejudice against recreation once template filled. Dawynn ( talk) 03:31, 12 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:28, 30 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Tried to fill, but still greatly undersized. Upmerge templates and delete category. No prejudice against recreation once templates populated.
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13:31, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Upmerge per Dawynn -- Qetuth ( talk) 11:51, 12 April 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was
Procedural close, moving to CFD as part of SFD deprecation. Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 05:24, 9 June 2012 (UTC) There are four regional splits under Category:European sports venue stubs. But there has been a tradition, that once a country fills up, it is taken out of the regional category, and placed under the main European category. The downside is that one of these regional splits ( Category:Western European sports venue stubs) has now seen enough countries mature that it is now undersized. I propose that we do away with the regional splits altogether, and just upmerge any remaining countries into the European category. reply
- Category:Eastern European sports venue stubs (241 P)
- Category:Northern European sports venue stubs (137 P)
- Category:Southern European sports venue stubs (234 P)
- Category:Western European sports venue stubs (34 P)
This would mean that the main European category would then have around 700 articles. At the very least, I'd at least like to get rid of the Western category, and upmerge the remaining countries from that category into the European parent. Dawynn ( talk) 10:40, 11 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support: Certainly East/North/West, and it then seems silly to leave South seperate. Bulgaria category is already speediable and Slovakia, Ukraine, Finland and Serbia are very close (about 50 stubs each), with those 5 countries taken out of the picture it'd be closer to 400 articles total, about half of them from the Southern Europe. -- Qetuth ( talk) 00:22, 12 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Support, but consider merging all four to Category:Small nation European sports venue stubs, so as to not overwhelm the parent category, and encourage categorisation by nation wherever not very small. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 13:12, 5 June 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC) – עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Pluralize this one too:
Category:Elementary geometry stubs.
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The result of the discussion was Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:37, 22 January 2012 (UTC) – עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:37, 22 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Propose we rename this one to the plural:
Category:Differential geometry stubs.
Dawynn (
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02:58, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Agree, Rename both - I created both and didn't notice I hadn't pluralised until later. -- Qetuth ( talk) 23:57, 11 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Procedural close, templates have already been redirected. Reaper Eternal ( talk) 01:46, 28 May 2012 (UTC) reply
All other political party stubs use -party-, and -liberal- is also a parent stem:
- {{ Liberalparty-stub}} → {{ Liberal-party-stub}}
- {{ Europe-liberalparty-stub}} → {{ Europe-liberal-party-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was rename – Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:51, 24 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Propose move to
Category:Oswego County, New York Registered Historic Place stubs. (Should be a space after the comma)
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Reaper Eternal ( talk) 01:48, 28 May 2012 (UTC) reply
According to category history, others others have unsuccessfully tried to fill category. Category still very undersized. Propose deleting category, and upmerging templates.
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03:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
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- It currently has 31 entries. I think that that's sufficient to keep it around. Dori ☾ Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 05:02, 21 April 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was delete all. Reaper Eternal ( talk) 01:52, 28 May 2012 (UTC) reply
According to category history, others acknowledge that finding terminology articles will be difficult. Category is severely undersized. Propose deleting category, and upmerging templates.
Dawynn (
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02:59, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Delete all - both templates are now empty and one is proposed for deletion above at Feb 5 Listings (I'll repeat this above) -- Qetuth ( talk) 02:47, 8 February 2012 (UTC) reply
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Redirects for {{ Europe-sports-venue-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC) – עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC) reply
The following redirects are empty. Each of them follows discontinued naming conventions. Nominate all for deletion:
- {{ Euro-sports-venue-stub}}
- {{ Euro-stadium-stub}}
- {{ Europe-stadium-stub}}
(Note: Except for a few tiny countries, the Europe template is not even used anymore, but will be kept for these minor instances) Dawynn ( talk) 13:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was rename. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:39, 2 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Rename to {{
CentralAm-hist-stub}}. Keep original as redirect.
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{{ Zelda stub}}
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The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:37, 2 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Malformed. Unproposed. Unused. Catscan indicates 1 article could be categorized here.
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12:54, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Delete - between the name beong wrong, and the nearly complete lack of relevant stubs ( only Sylvan (TV series)), I see no reason to keep this one. Note that the permcat and its subcategories only have a total of 45 articles. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:36, 15 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Rename tag, delete category with no prejudice afgainst recreating it as Singapore bus stubs should there be enough stubs at a later date. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:38, 15 January 2012 (UTC) – עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:39, 15 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Only 33 articles, and the parent category (
Category:Singapore transport stubs) is not overflowing. Propose deleting category, upmerging template. Also, I don't see a need to capitalize "bus" in the template. Propose rename to {{
Singapore-bus-stub}}.
Dawynn (
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12:38, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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{{ PuertoRicoBiota-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was Delete both the category and the template. Ruslik_ Zero 13:58, 3 June 2012 (UTC) reply
Found this one. I don't like the name, but not sure what would work best. My first suggestion would be {{
PuertoRico-biota-stub}}. But I don't see other biota templates (not even a {{
biota-stub}}). I might also suggest a pair of templates ({{
PuertoRico-plant-stub}} and {{
PuertoRico-animal-stub}}). There are a couple plant stubs (i.e. {{
Australia-plant-stub}}), but I don't see any regional animal stubs. Please discuss.
Dawynn (
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19:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- The Australia one came about because there are a number of plants unique to Australia. Is the same true for Puerto Rico (and for animals in Puerto Rico too)?
Severo
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13:52, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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- No, the biota of Puerto Rico are not especially unique. This template seems to have been applied to any plants or animals that appear in Puerto Rico regardless of whether they are unique to the island. This is a recipe for madness. I recommend delete. Kaldari ( talk) 21:24, 7 March 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was
Delete, non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 21:58, 29 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Unproposed, malformed, and doubtfully needed at this point. I propose scrapping this and moving all 5 articles to {{ Philippines-hotel-stub}}. Dawynn ( talk) 17:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Delete without leaving redirect. Severo T C 13:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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{{ Theater-struct-stub}} / {{ Theatre-struct-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was Make changes as proposed below by Dawynn. Ruslik_ Zero 14:04, 3 June 2012 (UTC) reply
Both of these upmerge to
Category:Theatre (structure) stubs. I don't see a point in having two main templates for the same category.
Category:Theatre stubs has found a viable solution to aviod the variant spellings by using {{
theat-stub}}. I propose the same here. Propose keeping both of these templates as redirects, but build {{
theat-struct-stub}} as the primary template for this category.
Dawynn (
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12:24, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Doing a little more digging, it appears that there was a {{
Theat-struct-stub}} at one time. But there was desire to have separate templates with the two variant spellings. But the 'theat' abbreviation remains on all other theatre related templates. Revising my proposal -- create two templates:
- {{ theat-struct-stub}}. Redirect {{ theatre-struct-stub}} here.
- {{ US-theat-struct-stub}}. Redirect {{ theater-struct-stub}} here, and move any non-US articles over to {{ theat-struct-stub}}.
- This way, the US can have theaters, and everyone else can have theatres.
Dawynn (
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13:01, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- If we have a -theat- stem, then it should be used throughout, but I can live with your revised proposal.
Severo
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13:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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- The variant spellings were wanted in the description. As in "This stub article talks about a specific [theatre / theater]". Under the revised proposal, the actual template names can all be 'theat', while still allowing the US template to be about a specific theater. Are there any other nations where theater is preferred over theatre? Dawynn ( talk) 22:28, 7 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- If we have a -theat- stem, then it should be used throughout, but I can live with your revised proposal.
Severo
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13:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Undersized. With only 39 total articles in the permcat, this will struggle to reach population. Delete category, upmerge template.
Dawynn (
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18:56, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:11, 30 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Undersized. Only 21 articles in the permcat. Propose deleting category, upmerging template.
Dawynn (
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18:24, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was withdrawn
14 articles, making this our smallest category. Tried to find more stubs, but can't. Propose deleting category, upmerging template.
Dawynn (
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11:31, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Upmerging to what? I agree that the template has served its purpose, there were once over a hundred G.I. Joe stubs, and most of them have been merged into the lists of characters. But I still think there should be an easy way to separately identify the few stub articles that are left in
WikiProject G.I. Joe, so that they can possibly be expanded on and improved.
Fortdj33 (
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15:55, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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There is. The Statistics tables give very easy identification of all articles at every level, based on how articles are tagged in your wikiproject templates.
Dawynn (
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11:10, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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And here. Upmerge FWIW.
Severo
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12:38, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- I understand that any stub-class articles in the project can be found one way or another by sorting. But my point is that the {{
GIJoe-stub}} template is listed as a more-specific stub tag under several other projects (Animation, Comics, Toys, Fictional Universe, etc.) If the related category is eliminated, what category do you propose it be upmerged to? Because otherwise there is no one category that fits for all of the articles in
Category:G.I. Joe stubs.
Fortdj33 (
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19:26, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Templates allow for upmerging to up to 3 different categories. Seeing as how its currently under 4 categories, we would need to eliminate one. I would suggest either eliminating Animation or Comics, and keeping Toys and Fictional Universe. But that can be a discussion point.
Dawynn (
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21:14, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- I'm fine with eliminating any category that is no longer needed. But we can't just eliminate a category for a character article like Voltar (G.I. Joe), who appeared in the toyline, comic books and cartoon series, and therefore is also part of the G.I. Joe fictional universe. Right now, Category:G.I. Joe stubs serves the purpose of including that article in all of the appropriate categories, and I am uncomfortable with arbitrarily sorting those stub articles into one category or another, when some of them truly belong in all four categories, and others do not. If the G.I. Joe category is deleted, I just make to make sure that the articles are recategorized properly. Fortdj33 ( talk) 19:36, 6 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Templates allow for upmerging to up to 3 different categories. Seeing as how its currently under 4 categories, we would need to eliminate one. I would suggest either eliminating Animation or Comics, and keeping Toys and Fictional Universe. But that can be a discussion point.
Dawynn (
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21:14, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- I understand that any stub-class articles in the project can be found one way or another by sorting. But my point is that the {{
GIJoe-stub}} template is listed as a more-specific stub tag under several other projects (Animation, Comics, Toys, Fictional Universe, etc.) If the related category is eliminated, what category do you propose it be upmerged to? Because otherwise there is no one category that fits for all of the articles in
Category:G.I. Joe stubs.
Fortdj33 (
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19:26, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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And here. Upmerge FWIW.
Severo
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12:38, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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There is. The Statistics tables give very easy identification of all articles at every level, based on how articles are tagged in your wikiproject templates.
Dawynn (
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11:10, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Keep As long as people are using it still, and/or it has the potential of being used in the future, let it be. Nothing gained by deleting it, and some might find it useful. Dream Focus 14:14, 9 February 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:02, 30 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Undersized. Another category I was unable to fill. Propose to delete category, upmerge template. No prejudice against recreating category if sufficient articles tagged.
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03:02, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge to Category:Lesser Poland geography stubs. Ruslik_ Zero 16:25, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Reviewed permcat. Only found 30 stubs. Propose deleting category, upmerging template. No prejudcie against recreating category once template filled.
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19:45, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge to Category:European railway station stubs. Ruslik_ Zero 16:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Undersized. Only 36 articles in the perm cat. Propose deleting category, upmerging template. No prejudice against recreating category once template filled.
Dawynn (
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19:32, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Sorry, I wasn't aware that there's a minimum population requirement when I created it. My intention is to populate it with the 143 articles from
here. Which category are you proposing for deletion? The Slovenian railway station stubs or the Railway stations in Slovenia category?
- We manage only the stub categories. This discussion concerns only the Slovenian railway station stubs category. Dawynn ( talk) 03:13, 3 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Delete with no prejudice to recreation if 60 stub articles are reached. Severo T C 06:19, 3 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Upmerge to Category:Sorbeoconcha stubs. The category now has only 26 articles—less than in January. Ruslik_ Zero 16:41, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Undersized. Only 29 articles in the perm cat. Propose delete.
Dawynn (
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16:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Oppose: The article Thiara (gastropod) alone has almost 20 species with red links. These articles are waiting to be created. We have a bot at work at present in our project creating in the long run several ten thousand articles. In time, all the stub templates with less than 30 blue links will be filled up. There is no need to delete them now, just to be created again in the near future. JoJan ( talk) 09:22, 3 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Delete the category, with no prejudice against recerating when there are 60 stubs tagged with the {{ Thiaridae-stub}}. The bot can tag the new articles with the stub tag (which isn't up for deletion), and when there are enough stubs, the category can be recreated. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:51, 24 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was Rename template to {{ TaiKadai-lang-stub}}. Ruslik_ Zero 16:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC) reply
Unproposed, and the template looks like it would not be accepted. So, this is now up for discussion. Unless there is objection to the category as a whole, I'd suggest at least changing the template to {{
TaiKadai-lang-stub}}.
Dawynn (
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11:49, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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{{ Gloucestershire-geo-stub}} / {{ GloucesterShire-geo-stub}}
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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Discussion indicated general opposition. Dawynn ( talk) 03:16, 10 January 2012 (UTC) – Dawynn ( talk) 03:16, 10 January 2012 (UTC) reply
Yes, these two are identically named, with the exception of the capital 'S'. While Wikipedia can handle this just fine, I would think this could easily cause confusion for editors. Propose renaming the second one to {{
GloucesterShireAU-geo-stub}}.
Dawynn (
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02:28, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Oppose
{{GloucesterShire-geo-stub}}was so named to be consistent with other stub templates in the local region such as {{ Cessnock-geo-stub}}, {{ DungogShire-geo-stub}}, {{ GreatLakesCouncil-geo-stub}}, {{ HunterRegion-geo-stub}}, {{ LakeMacquarie-geo-stub}}, {{ Maitland-geo-stub}} and {{ MuswellbrookShire-geo-stub}}, none of which include "AU". There is a map of Australia on{{GloucesterShire-geo-stub}}and{{Gloucestershire-geo-stub}}has a map of England to avoid any confusion. Perhaps{{Gloucestershire-geo-stub}}could be renamed to {{ GloucestershireUK-geo-stub}}. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 03:32, 1 January 2012 (UTC) reply - Rename both per AussieLegend for the UK one, and per Dawynn for the AU one, and delete the remaining redirects (after replacing links) to prevent further confusion. 76.65.128.132 ( talk) 09:07, 1 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Comment Honestly, I don't see how adding AU or UK to either template would reduce the confusion that Dawynn thinks could be caused. All stub templates, except {{ stub}} tend to be confusing because people don't realise most exist. Without redirects, as proposed by 76.65.128.132, if somebody was to use "Gloucestershire" instead of "GloucestershireUK" how would they resolve their mistake? You could follow the category tree from {{ stub}} to find the right template, but is that improving the current situation? I think not. At the moment, if you misspell either word, the differences, and the error, are blindingly obvious. [1] Renaming either template will replace a possible problem with an easy resolution with a likely problem that has a possibly confusing and time consuming resolution. And, of course, we must ask ourselves, has the problem suggested by Dawynn ever actually occurred? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 12:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC) reply
- Willing to let this one go. Dawynn ( talk) 03:10, 10 January 2012 (UTC) reply
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