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22 June 2017

Suspected sockpuppets

I was hesitant to start this SPI, and even consulted an admin beforehand, especially with a list of so many names some of which were already blocked for vandalism. The question is - why are there so many new accounts (supporting edits by Cjhard), rarely used old accounts with recent edit histories (supporting edits by Cjhard), and so many vandalism-only accounts (surrounding the edits of Cjhard). While I do not believe enough evidence exists for behavioral confirmation between that many users (but that is up to you), I am hoping that at least a CU can help put the suspicions to rest.


As example: The Life of Pablo

after 174.119.250.69 made [ this edit] which was reverted, Cjhard and I were both blocked for violating 3RR. Immediately after being blocked, 66.87.121.137 and Elmodivot came and attempted to make the same two edits[ Cjhard edit][ ip edit][ elmodivot edit]. Elmodivot has not been active in a year but randomly chose that day/page/edit to appear?

A tree has many branches, and here is one of them - after Cjhard's block ended, he was on NeilN's page accusing [ me of socking], while just a few hours later Wynetia (blocked as a sock of MariaJaydHicky) was on Sergecross73's page accusing [ others names] of being my socks. And as if that was not coincidental enough, the statements told to Wynetia were used by Cjhard when he opened an SPI against me. But how did Cjhard know what was told to Wynetia if they were not the same person?

Also on the same page, Cjhard requested a 3O who made an edit counter to Cjhard's. Bchris26 came and tried to make the [ same edit] as Cjhard. Bchris, like Cjhard and Elmodivot, is an old, little used account. Again, he chooses that day/page/edit to return? And has not been around since.

newimpartial, like the others, is an old account that only recently has become active. Unlike most of the others, I can say that he has become fairly active. But, very much like Cjhard, this account has been around for many years with the bulk of the edits happening within the last 30 days, with less than half of their edits being to articles. He has only appeared on that page due to one of the insult-vandals that surround Cjhard.

Moving on the the talk page of The Life of Pable, there is Jobscomforter. Who has only made 2 edits in the last 30 days, and 6 edits in the past year. But we are to [ believe he answers] an RfD request made by Cjhard for this article which is supporting Cjhard's argument?

Also on the talk page are a few of the insult-accounts that have already been blocked. Which have also been on my talk page, Cjhard's talk page, and Morty C-137's talk page. But they did not vandalize Cjhard's page until after Morty had suspected them of being Cjhard's sockpuppets. A possible sign of deflection?

Also on this list is User:Margravechristophe. According to the [ banner on his contribution page] he was blocked as being sock or a "joe job", which is the exact phrase used by Cjhard when he was on NeilN's talk page discussing me.

The rest of the names are just more of the same. Same pages/edits as Cjhard, and blocked vandals. I added them hoping a CU can link any possible socks. Kellymoat ( talk) 20:33, 22 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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cjhard

cjhard ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)

22 June 2017

Suspected sockpuppets

I was hesitant to start this SPI, and even consulted an admin beforehand, especially with a list of so many names some of which were already blocked for vandalism. The question is - why are there so many new accounts (supporting edits by Cjhard), rarely used old accounts with recent edit histories (supporting edits by Cjhard), and so many vandalism-only accounts (surrounding the edits of Cjhard). While I do not believe enough evidence exists for behavioral confirmation between that many users (but that is up to you), I am hoping that at least a CU can help put the suspicions to rest.


As example: The Life of Pablo

after 174.119.250.69 made [ this edit] which was reverted, Cjhard and I were both blocked for violating 3RR. Immediately after being blocked, 66.87.121.137 and Elmodivot came and attempted to make the same two edits[ Cjhard edit][ ip edit][ elmodivot edit]. Elmodivot has not been active in a year but randomly chose that day/page/edit to appear?

A tree has many branches, and here is one of them - after Cjhard's block ended, he was on NeilN's page accusing [ me of socking], while just a few hours later Wynetia (blocked as a sock of MariaJaydHicky) was on Sergecross73's page accusing [ others names] of being my socks. And as if that was not coincidental enough, the statements told to Wynetia were used by Cjhard when he opened an SPI against me. But how did Cjhard know what was told to Wynetia if they were not the same person?

Also on the same page, Cjhard requested a 3O who made an edit counter to Cjhard's. Bchris26 came and tried to make the [ same edit] as Cjhard. Bchris, like Cjhard and Elmodivot, is an old, little used account. Again, he chooses that day/page/edit to return? And has not been around since.

newimpartial, like the others, is an old account that only recently has become active. Unlike most of the others, I can say that he has become fairly active. But, very much like Cjhard, this account has been around for many years with the bulk of the edits happening within the last 30 days, with less than half of their edits being to articles. He has only appeared on that page due to one of the insult-vandals that surround Cjhard.

Moving on the the talk page of The Life of Pable, there is Jobscomforter. Who has only made 2 edits in the last 30 days, and 6 edits in the past year. But we are to [ believe he answers] an RfD request made by Cjhard for this article which is supporting Cjhard's argument?

Also on the talk page are a few of the insult-accounts that have already been blocked. Which have also been on my talk page, Cjhard's talk page, and Morty C-137's talk page. But they did not vandalize Cjhard's page until after Morty had suspected them of being Cjhard's sockpuppets. A possible sign of deflection?

Also on this list is User:Margravechristophe. According to the [ banner on his contribution page] he was blocked as being sock or a "joe job", which is the exact phrase used by Cjhard when he was on NeilN's talk page discussing me.

The rest of the names are just more of the same. Same pages/edits as Cjhard, and blocked vandals. I added them hoping a CU can link any possible socks. Kellymoat ( talk) 20:33, 22 June 2017 (UTC) reply

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.


Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

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