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19 February 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

IP editor continuing previous pattern of trying to have Manchester defined as the UK's second city, and remove this description from the Birmingham article. Compare this with this. WP:DUCK. Cordless Larry ( talk) 20:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Now with a different IP (added). Cordless Larry ( talk) 15:35, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Pink clock Awaiting administrative action - It's an obvious case of block evasion. The IP has been stable for nearly a month so a lengthy block seems appropriate. Please block the IP for a month. Cabayi ( talk) 11:14, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply

For clarity, block 82.4.135.232, NOT 128.243.2.60 which Cordless Larry added to the report after I'd made my recommendation (very naughty). The new IP is a University of Nottingham IP, used productively & with no relation to this case before today. It looks like page protection is the way forward here rather than further SPI reports of IPs. Cabayi ( talk) 15:48, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply

It's not naughty to add new suspects to a case (and I noted that it was an addition). The recent edits by the new IP indicate that it's clearly the same person (and the other IP address is also in Nottingham). Cordless Larry ( talk) 16:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Anyway, both articles are now protected, so that might be the best solution in any case, as you note. Cordless Larry ( talk) 16:55, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Once the case has passed the point of having action recommended, and it could look as though the recommendation applied to the additions, yes it is.
The first IP reported is a Virgin broadband address, and clearly under the control of a single editor. The second is on the University's network and, from its contributions, just as clearly shared by multiple editors. Cabayi ( talk) 17:03, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Your comment above refers to an IP address (singular), I noted that the second one had been added to the case, and then there are the timestamps. It's perfectly clear to anyone who pays attention. Cordless Larry ( talk) 17:08, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply

03 March 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

Fascination with Manchester (and not Birmingham, or others) being the second city of the UK. [1] vs. [2]. See also the many IPs doing the same, making page protection necessary. Fram ( talk) 19:04, 3 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Now again reverted by another IP [3]. Fram ( talk) 10:19, 4 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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24 July 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

As well as the username similarity (ending with 123), compare this with this. Cordless Larry ( talk) 22:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC) reply

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  •  In progress - -- RoySmith (talk) 23:06, 24 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  • There's only some log snippets to compare against, and they suggest Metrolink123 is Red X Unrelated. That being said, the name similarity and diffs are pretty convincing, so I'd say ignore the CU data.  Behavioural evidence needs evaluation. What I don't understand is what's so interesting about Manchester that it has acquired such a long protection log? In any case, my recommendation is to just make that log even longer. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:16, 24 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  • The username (transit company + 123) is very similar to the master, the edits linked in the filing are almost identical, and the overwhelming focus on Manchester and Birmingham matches (see e.g. [4]). It's not really surprising that CU might come up unrelated since the last sock was over two years ago and they could easily have moved in that time. Pink clock Awaiting administrative action - they are already partially blocked, but please fully block Metrolink123 indefinitely as a suspected sock. Thanks, Spicy ( talk) 00:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  •  Blocked and tagged, closing. Mz7 ( talk) 06:57, 28 July 2022 (UTC) reply

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Swissair123

Swissair123 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log· investigate · cuwiki)

19 February 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

IP editor continuing previous pattern of trying to have Manchester defined as the UK's second city, and remove this description from the Birmingham article. Compare this with this. WP:DUCK. Cordless Larry ( talk) 20:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Now with a different IP (added). Cordless Larry ( talk) 15:35, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Pink clock Awaiting administrative action - It's an obvious case of block evasion. The IP has been stable for nearly a month so a lengthy block seems appropriate. Please block the IP for a month. Cabayi ( talk) 11:14, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply

For clarity, block 82.4.135.232, NOT 128.243.2.60 which Cordless Larry added to the report after I'd made my recommendation (very naughty). The new IP is a University of Nottingham IP, used productively & with no relation to this case before today. It looks like page protection is the way forward here rather than further SPI reports of IPs. Cabayi ( talk) 15:48, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply

It's not naughty to add new suspects to a case (and I noted that it was an addition). The recent edits by the new IP indicate that it's clearly the same person (and the other IP address is also in Nottingham). Cordless Larry ( talk) 16:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Anyway, both articles are now protected, so that might be the best solution in any case, as you note. Cordless Larry ( talk) 16:55, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Once the case has passed the point of having action recommended, and it could look as though the recommendation applied to the additions, yes it is.
The first IP reported is a Virgin broadband address, and clearly under the control of a single editor. The second is on the University's network and, from its contributions, just as clearly shared by multiple editors. Cabayi ( talk) 17:03, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Your comment above refers to an IP address (singular), I noted that the second one had been added to the case, and then there are the timestamps. It's perfectly clear to anyone who pays attention. Cordless Larry ( talk) 17:08, 20 February 2020 (UTC) reply

03 March 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

Fascination with Manchester (and not Birmingham, or others) being the second city of the UK. [1] vs. [2]. See also the many IPs doing the same, making page protection necessary. Fram ( talk) 19:04, 3 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Now again reverted by another IP [3]. Fram ( talk) 10:19, 4 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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24 July 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

As well as the username similarity (ending with 123), compare this with this. Cordless Larry ( talk) 22:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC) reply

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  •  In progress - -- RoySmith (talk) 23:06, 24 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  • There's only some log snippets to compare against, and they suggest Metrolink123 is Red X Unrelated. That being said, the name similarity and diffs are pretty convincing, so I'd say ignore the CU data.  Behavioural evidence needs evaluation. What I don't understand is what's so interesting about Manchester that it has acquired such a long protection log? In any case, my recommendation is to just make that log even longer. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:16, 24 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  • The username (transit company + 123) is very similar to the master, the edits linked in the filing are almost identical, and the overwhelming focus on Manchester and Birmingham matches (see e.g. [4]). It's not really surprising that CU might come up unrelated since the last sock was over two years ago and they could easily have moved in that time. Pink clock Awaiting administrative action - they are already partially blocked, but please fully block Metrolink123 indefinitely as a suspected sock. Thanks, Spicy ( talk) 00:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  •  Blocked and tagged, closing. Mz7 ( talk) 06:57, 28 July 2022 (UTC) reply


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