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23 August 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

This may be a UPE ring, and not a single person.

Shashankhas created Anoop Madhavan on 16 August and has since been dormant. Also created the now deleted Survival Instincts. There is a promotional vibe to these articles.

Shiltonjojo was created in 2009. No edits, but they do state it on their usage page. Two edits in 2018. Then reactivated from a five year dormancy to remove a PROD tag. They went on to make some edits and vote in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anoop Madhavan. The also responded on Shashankhas's talk, though it is not clear to me they were pinged] with this that was changed to this.

Zanaottaja Eei made recreated the previously deleted Precious Okonkwo and created the promotional Swift Homes. This account with fewer than 100 edits showed up at Anoop Madhavan an hour after Shiltonjojo's series of edits. A day later they voted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anoop Madhavan.

CarribeanKing was created in 2022. Activated again in August. Gamed ECP and had it revoked and was also warned for COI because of prior edits by User:ToBeFree. Made their first Afd vote on 22 August after the Madhavan AfD started. They then showed to vote on the Madhavan AfD with a per Zanaottaja Eei + expansion.

I feel there is smoke around most of these accounts, and all of them showing up at the same article adds up to more than smoke. If this were simple off-wiki solicitation (Facebook or such) we'd expect IPs or users whose prior editing history wasn't promotional in nature. Mvqr ( talk) 17:13, 23 August 2023 (UTC) reply

I've notified Wikishovel as they may have more to add here since they've been working on the article and querying some of these accounts. -- Mvqr ( talk) 17:16, 23 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

I agree with Mvqr's well-reasoned suspicions of a UPE ring. For now, adding some extra detail about the suspected master Shiltonjojo:

  • I initially warned User:Shashankhas about account Shiltonjojo with few edits removing the prod from Anoop Madhavan, figuring it was offline coordination. No reply from Shashankhas (in fact no further edits at all since their rapid creation of the article), but had an immediate reply from Shiltonjojo at Shashankhas' user talk [1], apologising for the offline coords, so I figured that was the end of that.
  • An hour later, Shiltonjojo changes that reply at Shashankhas user talk to say actually, no, there was no coordination after all [2].
  • Next day, Shiltonjojo is back at Shashankhas' talk page, to say they're actually very concerned about crime in Chennai, and my logic is wrong at the AFD, and I have a long gap in my own edits, etc. [3]
  • Shiltonjojo's user talk and userpage were unedited since 2009, but this afternoon, two hours after a welcome from User:Liz, they then created the userpage reading "A user since 2009." [4]. Wikishovel ( talk) 17:59, 23 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the ping. I'd of course highly value a checkuser having a closer look at this. The deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Anoop_Madhavan, as it currently looks like ( permanent link), with a sudden flood of inexperienced "keep" statements against the previous deletion majority is hard to explain without external coordination or sockpuppetry. See also: Special:DeletedContributions/CarribeanKing. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 18:33, 23 August 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Mvqr: you might consider adding Topboy92, another new account with precocious edits and a rapid "keep" !vote at the AFD. Wikishovel ( talk) 23:39, 23 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

25 August 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

User:Weahdi Ohii is a new WP:SPA, only post so far is a "Strong Keep" at WP:Articles for deletion/Anoop Madhavan, along with a call for a re-run of the retaliatory SPI against me, last created by master User:Sathishcm, [5]. Wikishovel ( talk) 19:42, 25 August 2023 (UTC) reply

User:DataDemocracy is another new WP:SPA, !voting "Delete" on weak grounds and then asking, in what appears to be the real reason for the post, about why !votes to keep are being "deleted" [6]. Wikishovel ( talk) 23:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC) reply


Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

I am not related to any editor here. I am not interested in editing wiki. I am only concerned and worried at what I see happening at that deletion discussion.

This is a clear case of WP:Attack on Anoop Madhavan. I have an off wiki evidence that user:Wikishovel is paid heavily to delete this page right from day one and I am willing to let it out to CU people via any means. It's so sad. He uses his old experience on wiki to fight every editor that tries to edit or defend the page.

Using Wikipedia to settle Indian disputes is evil. Madhavan is under attack by competitors and enemies who vowed that he must go down. It's a protracted warfare in India. They paid a wiki editor to mess up his page when he clearly met the notability requirements.

Accusing others of paid editing when you indulge in the same is evil. Run a check on Wikishovel and find the truth. Let justice prevail. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weahdi Ohii ( talk • contribs) 03:48, 26 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

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Sathishcm

Sathishcm ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)

23 August 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

This may be a UPE ring, and not a single person.

Shashankhas created Anoop Madhavan on 16 August and has since been dormant. Also created the now deleted Survival Instincts. There is a promotional vibe to these articles.

Shiltonjojo was created in 2009. No edits, but they do state it on their usage page. Two edits in 2018. Then reactivated from a five year dormancy to remove a PROD tag. They went on to make some edits and vote in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anoop Madhavan. The also responded on Shashankhas's talk, though it is not clear to me they were pinged] with this that was changed to this.

Zanaottaja Eei made recreated the previously deleted Precious Okonkwo and created the promotional Swift Homes. This account with fewer than 100 edits showed up at Anoop Madhavan an hour after Shiltonjojo's series of edits. A day later they voted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anoop Madhavan.

CarribeanKing was created in 2022. Activated again in August. Gamed ECP and had it revoked and was also warned for COI because of prior edits by User:ToBeFree. Made their first Afd vote on 22 August after the Madhavan AfD started. They then showed to vote on the Madhavan AfD with a per Zanaottaja Eei + expansion.

I feel there is smoke around most of these accounts, and all of them showing up at the same article adds up to more than smoke. If this were simple off-wiki solicitation (Facebook or such) we'd expect IPs or users whose prior editing history wasn't promotional in nature. Mvqr ( talk) 17:13, 23 August 2023 (UTC) reply

I've notified Wikishovel as they may have more to add here since they've been working on the article and querying some of these accounts. -- Mvqr ( talk) 17:16, 23 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

I agree with Mvqr's well-reasoned suspicions of a UPE ring. For now, adding some extra detail about the suspected master Shiltonjojo:

  • I initially warned User:Shashankhas about account Shiltonjojo with few edits removing the prod from Anoop Madhavan, figuring it was offline coordination. No reply from Shashankhas (in fact no further edits at all since their rapid creation of the article), but had an immediate reply from Shiltonjojo at Shashankhas' user talk [1], apologising for the offline coords, so I figured that was the end of that.
  • An hour later, Shiltonjojo changes that reply at Shashankhas user talk to say actually, no, there was no coordination after all [2].
  • Next day, Shiltonjojo is back at Shashankhas' talk page, to say they're actually very concerned about crime in Chennai, and my logic is wrong at the AFD, and I have a long gap in my own edits, etc. [3]
  • Shiltonjojo's user talk and userpage were unedited since 2009, but this afternoon, two hours after a welcome from User:Liz, they then created the userpage reading "A user since 2009." [4]. Wikishovel ( talk) 17:59, 23 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the ping. I'd of course highly value a checkuser having a closer look at this. The deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Anoop_Madhavan, as it currently looks like ( permanent link), with a sudden flood of inexperienced "keep" statements against the previous deletion majority is hard to explain without external coordination or sockpuppetry. See also: Special:DeletedContributions/CarribeanKing. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 18:33, 23 August 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Mvqr: you might consider adding Topboy92, another new account with precocious edits and a rapid "keep" !vote at the AFD. Wikishovel ( talk) 23:39, 23 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

25 August 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

User:Weahdi Ohii is a new WP:SPA, only post so far is a "Strong Keep" at WP:Articles for deletion/Anoop Madhavan, along with a call for a re-run of the retaliatory SPI against me, last created by master User:Sathishcm, [5]. Wikishovel ( talk) 19:42, 25 August 2023 (UTC) reply

User:DataDemocracy is another new WP:SPA, !voting "Delete" on weak grounds and then asking, in what appears to be the real reason for the post, about why !votes to keep are being "deleted" [6]. Wikishovel ( talk) 23:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC) reply


Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

I am not related to any editor here. I am not interested in editing wiki. I am only concerned and worried at what I see happening at that deletion discussion.

This is a clear case of WP:Attack on Anoop Madhavan. I have an off wiki evidence that user:Wikishovel is paid heavily to delete this page right from day one and I am willing to let it out to CU people via any means. It's so sad. He uses his old experience on wiki to fight every editor that tries to edit or defend the page.

Using Wikipedia to settle Indian disputes is evil. Madhavan is under attack by competitors and enemies who vowed that he must go down. It's a protracted warfare in India. They paid a wiki editor to mess up his page when he clearly met the notability requirements.

Accusing others of paid editing when you indulge in the same is evil. Run a check on Wikishovel and find the truth. Let justice prevail. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weahdi Ohii ( talk • contribs) 03:48, 26 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

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