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09 July 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

• Sdmarathe ( talk ⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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I have concluded after my search that all three accounts are linked. RaviC (registered on 1 July 2008) is the master and the other two, Sdmarathe and Orientls, are his sleeper accounts.

Sdmarathe [1] registered in the same year as RaviC [2] but despite 9 years since registration only has 426 edits. Orientls registered in 2014 but only has 196 edits. [3]

Sdmarathe-Orientls connection

• Both these low-level activity accounts, Sdmarathe and Orientls, share a hostile tone, especially against the same users

• • Sdmarathe: [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]  

• • Orientls: [9] [10] [11] [12]  
• And while Orientls is absent/nowhere to be seen, its Sdmarathe who is going to all the trouble of defending him at his arbitration case. [13] [14]

• Mar4d has already given one example where Orientls and Sdmarathe behaved as a WP:TAGTEAM on Regional power. [15]

• There was more identical behaviour across several spaces. Both voted delete on these two AFDs. [16] [17], had the same POV regarding infobox results on Talk:Kargil War. [18] and more.

These sleeper accounts exist to support each other.

RaviC-Orientls connection

While Sdmarathe is busy wikilawyering for the absent Orientls, RaviC frantically encourages a checkuser to investigate NadirAli, the filer of the arbitration case against Orientls. [19]. The same RaviC had earlier joined Orientls in aggressively demanding that TurboCop disclose their previous editing activity. [20] The hostile tone of the two accounts was the same and no other user prior to these two had any interest in TurboCop's previous editing history. This hostility degenerated into accusing TurbCop of being a sock [21] of a deceased user, [22] Faizan.

RaviC-Sdmarathe connection

RaviC and Sdmarathe each had no pre June history on Talk:Kargil War [23] [24] but both appeared to support a change of the infobox result to Indian victory. Recently, RaviC jumped in to defend Sdmarathe in a different SPI case [25].  

RaviC-IP connection

This IP [26] - geolocation in India [27]- jumps in after Bbb23 closed the first SPI in which RaviC and My Lord had earlier collected together. My Lord later reverted that IP. The only other user in the SPI until then, besides My Lord, had been RaviC. [28]

This suggests that RaviC used this IP and also had advance knowledge of the second SPI which My Lord was going to file. This proves there is also off-wiki collusion between these users. We can also see from this [29] that one of the socks, Orientls, copy pasted a botched version of the entire Talk:Regional power which suggests he did that edit, containing his own scripted reply to another user, for somebody else.

The meat puppetry also sets in the possibility that each of the socks are using separate devices and IP addresses from the master. A CU is necessary but a negative result on CU does not preclude the possibility of sock puppetry. I strongly advocate a study of the behaviour here too. Nauriya ( talk) 03:11, 9 July 2018 (UTC) reply

Lorstaking

I have just looking over Lorstaking who is continuing Sdmarathe and Orientls hostility to Mar4d [30] and RaviC’s feuds with NadirAli.[] [31] Lorstaking has less than 1,500 edits over the past 3 years, which isn’t as low as Orientls and Sdmarathe. But he overlaps with RaviC in strange places for users whose editing interest is mostly confined to South Asia: Conservatism in the United Kingdom and Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. This trait of voting likewise on various AFDs is shared by Lorstaking with RaviC [32], Sdmarathe [33] and with Orientls. [34] Mar4d also showed evidence of Lorstaking’s recent participation in WP:TAGTEAM on Regional power with both Sdmarathe and Orientls. [35] Like Orientls, Sddmarathe and RaviC this user is also characterised by hostility towards other users. [36] [37]

At first glance Lorstaking might not be a sock. More a meat puppet. But then I look at the first 50 edits of Orientls. And I see him and Lorstaking arguing against Capt.a.haddock on the same side, with the newbie Orientls citing policies such as WP:SYNTH and arguing that the intro had been stable for a long time. [38] [39]

• Noting here that Orientls has finally, after a mysterious absence, decided to come and defend himself at his arbitration case. This development comes after the filing of this SPI report, where Sdmarathe's lawyering for the absent Orientls was noted.

Comments by other users

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All these are hostile to same users or the other and defend and support each other everywhere. This in particular raises my suspicions of background collusion and meat. [40] And that botched copy paste diff. [41]   Sounds like a duck quacking into a megaphone to me There's also been obvious retaliatory filing over this case too by one of the socks/meats. [42] مھتاب احمد ( talk) 12:58, 10 July 2018 (UTC) reply

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

Insufficient evidence, scattershot. Closing.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 21:28, 10 July 2018 (UTC) reply