Peter G Werner
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- Suspected sockpuppets
- Peter G Werner ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Iamcuriousblue ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Suspected breach in relation to
WP: Sock puppetry, inappropriate uses of alternative accounts
avoiding scrunity
and
posing as a neutral commentator
NOTE 1:I couldn't find where this was supposed to go, this was the next best place that I could think of as it is a breach of the SP rules rather than a report of SP.
NOTE 2: Iamcuriousblue's user page states: The sock puppet Iamcuriousblue has been created for purpose of segregation, a legitimate use of sock puppets according to Wikipedia policy. and confirms his other user name as Peter G Werner.
The chronology behind my concerns were initially as follows:
In an article on sexualization
- May 16, 2007 as
Peter G Werner added a link to
moral panic, which was questioned on the talk pages at the time.
- May 17, 2007 Grant Neufield added a NPOV box to the section and criticized its inclusion on the article's Talk page, suggesting:
:... that either an appropriate citation(s) be provided that provide some sort of link between the subject of the article and “Moral panic”, and that it be placed in a “Controversies” section of the article, or that the link be removed if its relationship to the subject cannot be substantiated.
- May 24, 2007 as Iamcuriousblue posted the following on the same article's talk page:
:Exaggerated fear of what is seen as premature sexualization of girls has been criticized as a kind of moral panic. It's true, however, that this criticism needs to be fleshed out, cited and clearly stated who's making this critique, and worked into the text of the article.
Iamcuriousblue
04:01, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- Nov 2, 2007 (knowing that there was an outstanding NPOV issue) as Iamcuriousblue added a link to an online magazine Reason.com "Invasion of the Prostitots: Another moral panic about American girls" in the Further Reading section
- The amount of experience he has on the Wikipedia would also suggest that he knows very well not to format it the way that he has done - a separate, non-alphabetical bullet point and red-linking the author, Kerry Howley, for the creation of a new wikipedia article.
- The amount of experience he has on the Wikipedia would also suggest that he knows very well not to format it the way that he has done - a separate, non-alphabetical bullet point and red-linking the author, Kerry Howley, for the creation of a new wikipedia article.
This is a list of contributors for the online magazine, this is
Kerry Howley's page at the same magazine, and
this is her own website. Notable? Worth an article of her own? I think she is only being highlighted because she is opposed to the subject of the article, which already has NPOV issues. One major contributor to the article
Feona Attwood is an academic who has written papers stating - Indeed, anti-sexualization texts seem to rework the 'laments' that have become part of the way public debate is conducted not only around sex and sexuality, but around the behaviour of young people, the status of women, representation, and technology. (Attwood, F. (2010) 'Sexualization, sex and manners' Sexualities, vol. 13 no. 6, pp.743, DOI: 10.1177/1363460710384553, Sage)
Following on from that I took a look at the edit histories of contributions listed on
Iamcuriousblue's user page....
Women Against Pornography has entries for both
Iamcuriousblue and
Peter G Werner from Apr 2006 to Aug 2007, and both users took part in a debate on that article's talk page under the subject heading: NPOV.
Other example edit histories
-
Alt porn 19 - 25 May 2007
-
Audrey Kawasaki 11 - 12 Sept 2007
-
Eon McKai 21 - 28 Aug 2006, and both users on 22 May 2007
-
Melissa Farley Jun - Sept 2007
-
New York Radical Feminists 27 Jul 2009
-
Stephen Sayadian Jul - Aug 2006
-
Lesbianism in erotica May, Jun, Jul 2009
-
Redstockings 16 - 21 Jun 2006
-
Sexual objectification 28 May 2009 (back and forth)
-
Stickam 6 Aug 2009 (back and forth)
Those are my reasons for reporting this.
The Vintage Feminist (
talk)
06:08, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
- Not sure I see evidence of abuse here. The alternative account has been marked as such since the beginning and, although they're not supposed to be editing the same article with different accounts, the most recent evidence is three and a half years old. Unless there is evidence of more recent problematic edits I don't think there's anything for SPI to do here. Jafeluv ( talk) 11:07, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
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Clerk note: I have to agree with Jafeluv in this case. There is no particularly strong evidence that this is anything other than a legitimate alternative account, and all the accusations of avoidance of scrutiny seems to be at least 3 years old. I have left a message on Iamcuriousblue's talk page suggesting that he more clearly disclose the alt account using a template on both user pages, rather than the line of plain text being used at the moment on the alt account's userpage. Closing this.
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
12:10, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
-
Clerk note: moved from
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Iamcuriousblue to
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Peter G Werner per standard convention.
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
12:13, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Peter G Werner
- Peter G Werner ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Peter G Werner ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Iamcuriousblue ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
- Editor interaction utility
Suspected breach in relation to
WP: Sock puppetry, inappropriate uses of alternative accounts
avoiding scrunity
and
posing as a neutral commentator
NOTE 1:I couldn't find where this was supposed to go, this was the next best place that I could think of as it is a breach of the SP rules rather than a report of SP.
NOTE 2: Iamcuriousblue's user page states: The sock puppet Iamcuriousblue has been created for purpose of segregation, a legitimate use of sock puppets according to Wikipedia policy. and confirms his other user name as Peter G Werner.
The chronology behind my concerns were initially as follows:
In an article on sexualization
- May 16, 2007 as
Peter G Werner added a link to
moral panic, which was questioned on the talk pages at the time.
- May 17, 2007 Grant Neufield added a NPOV box to the section and criticized its inclusion on the article's Talk page, suggesting:
:... that either an appropriate citation(s) be provided that provide some sort of link between the subject of the article and “Moral panic”, and that it be placed in a “Controversies” section of the article, or that the link be removed if its relationship to the subject cannot be substantiated.
- May 24, 2007 as Iamcuriousblue posted the following on the same article's talk page:
:Exaggerated fear of what is seen as premature sexualization of girls has been criticized as a kind of moral panic. It's true, however, that this criticism needs to be fleshed out, cited and clearly stated who's making this critique, and worked into the text of the article.
Iamcuriousblue
04:01, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- Nov 2, 2007 (knowing that there was an outstanding NPOV issue) as Iamcuriousblue added a link to an online magazine Reason.com "Invasion of the Prostitots: Another moral panic about American girls" in the Further Reading section
- The amount of experience he has on the Wikipedia would also suggest that he knows very well not to format it the way that he has done - a separate, non-alphabetical bullet point and red-linking the author, Kerry Howley, for the creation of a new wikipedia article.
- The amount of experience he has on the Wikipedia would also suggest that he knows very well not to format it the way that he has done - a separate, non-alphabetical bullet point and red-linking the author, Kerry Howley, for the creation of a new wikipedia article.
This is a list of contributors for the online magazine, this is
Kerry Howley's page at the same magazine, and
this is her own website. Notable? Worth an article of her own? I think she is only being highlighted because she is opposed to the subject of the article, which already has NPOV issues. One major contributor to the article
Feona Attwood is an academic who has written papers stating - Indeed, anti-sexualization texts seem to rework the 'laments' that have become part of the way public debate is conducted not only around sex and sexuality, but around the behaviour of young people, the status of women, representation, and technology. (Attwood, F. (2010) 'Sexualization, sex and manners' Sexualities, vol. 13 no. 6, pp.743, DOI: 10.1177/1363460710384553, Sage)
Following on from that I took a look at the edit histories of contributions listed on
Iamcuriousblue's user page....
Women Against Pornography has entries for both
Iamcuriousblue and
Peter G Werner from Apr 2006 to Aug 2007, and both users took part in a debate on that article's talk page under the subject heading: NPOV.
Other example edit histories
-
Alt porn 19 - 25 May 2007
-
Audrey Kawasaki 11 - 12 Sept 2007
-
Eon McKai 21 - 28 Aug 2006, and both users on 22 May 2007
-
Melissa Farley Jun - Sept 2007
-
New York Radical Feminists 27 Jul 2009
-
Stephen Sayadian Jul - Aug 2006
-
Lesbianism in erotica May, Jun, Jul 2009
-
Redstockings 16 - 21 Jun 2006
-
Sexual objectification 28 May 2009 (back and forth)
-
Stickam 6 Aug 2009 (back and forth)
Those are my reasons for reporting this.
The Vintage Feminist (
talk)
06:08, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
- Not sure I see evidence of abuse here. The alternative account has been marked as such since the beginning and, although they're not supposed to be editing the same article with different accounts, the most recent evidence is three and a half years old. Unless there is evidence of more recent problematic edits I don't think there's anything for SPI to do here. Jafeluv ( talk) 11:07, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
-
Clerk note: I have to agree with Jafeluv in this case. There is no particularly strong evidence that this is anything other than a legitimate alternative account, and all the accusations of avoidance of scrutiny seems to be at least 3 years old. I have left a message on Iamcuriousblue's talk page suggesting that he more clearly disclose the alt account using a template on both user pages, rather than the line of plain text being used at the moment on the alt account's userpage. Closing this.
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
12:10, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
-
Clerk note: moved from
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Iamcuriousblue to
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Peter G Werner per standard convention.
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
12:13, 28 February 2013 (UTC)