NebulaOblongata
- NebulaOblongata ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
01 September 2022
Suspected sockpuppets
During their time on Wikipedia, NebulaOblongata posted dozens of comments on Talk:WikiIslam calling for the article subject to be described more favorably, and to remove or reduce the prominence of the word Islamophobic in the article. NebulaOblongata edit warred to remove variations of the word Islamophobic and Islamophobia from the WikiIslam article multiple times, contrary to the consensus of the cited high-quality academic sources:
- Special:Diff/1092548555: 23:39, 10 June 2022
- Special:Diff/1092860265: 02:07, 13 June 2022
- Special:Diff/1092906156: 10:30, 13 June 2022
- Special:Diff/1092907881: 10:47, 13 June 2022
- Special:Diff/1092912306: 11:34, 13 June 2022
- Special:Diff/1092913860: 11:49, 13 June 2022
NebulaOblongata was blocked on 4 July for the reason: "Clearly not here to build an encyclopedia, battleground mentality, uncollaborative (constant belittling sarcasm), disruptive editing". On 14 July, NebulaOblongata submitted an unblock request on their talk page, which has not yet been answered.
On 21 August, 117.251.198.179 began making near-identical edits to the WikiIslam article:
- Special:Diff/1105780001: 19:31, 21 August 2022, near-identical to Special:Diff/1092548555 (#1 from NebulaOblongata)
- Special:Diff/1105790234: 20:36, 21 August 2022, near-identical to Special:Diff/1092548555 (#1 from NebulaOblongata)
The talk page behavior of NebulaOblongata and 117.251.198.179 and 117.197.85.21 on Talk:WikiIslam are substantially similar, with both adopting a battleground mentality that was part of the rationale for NebulaOblongata's block. — Newslinger talk 23:26, 1 September 2022 (UTC) Edited 04:13, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- On 1 September, 117.197.85.21 was blocked for 48 hours for " Disruptive editing, including edit-warring". — Newslinger talk 01:09, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Added 117.251.198.179 to list and added 117.197.85.21 to above comment. 117.197.85.21 carried on the discussion at Talk:WikiIslam/Archive 2 § Islamophobic after 117.251.198.179 with the same arguments and writing style. — Newslinger talk 04:13, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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To pre-emptively address any questions about the connection between the two IP addresses, 117.197.85.21 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) acknowledges that 117.251.198.179 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) is the same individual. Snuish ( talk) 02:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Two things to note: (1) the IP uses a mobile platform, whereas NO did not; and (2) the IP does not act like a new editor.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 02:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Blocked both IPs one week. GeneralNotability ( talk) 01:10, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- @
GeneralNotability: You left my 48-hour block in place for the first IP.--
Bbb23 (
talk)
01:16, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, forgot to hit the "override blocks" button. Fixed, thanks. GeneralNotability ( talk) 01:17, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- @
GeneralNotability: You left my 48-hour block in place for the first IP.--
Bbb23 (
talk)
01:16, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
01 January 2023
Suspected sockpuppets
- LiuWu87 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
NebulaOblongata ("NB") is a blocked user who edited primarily from June to July 2022 in Islam-related topic areas, including the subject of WikiIslam; he attempted to change the article in favor of presenting its subject more favorably. He was blocked in early July for disruptive editing, among other reasons. He came back as two different IP addresses, which were also blocked as his sockpuppets, to continue the same work on the WikiIslam page.
NB has recently solicited user LiuWu87, who I suspect is his meatpuppet given the users' different writing styles and command of the English language, to continue those efforts to alter the WikiIslam page.
- LiuWu87 does not demonstrate the typical inexperience of a new user. LiuWu87 registered his account on 10:48, 23 December 2022, and immediately displayed familiarity with Wikipedia's dispute resolution processes, creating a new thread on the neutral point of view noticeboard within an hour of registering his account. He has also demonstrated awareness of the administrators noticeboard, conflict of interest noticeboard, and request for comment processes.
- LiuWu87 has advanced the same positions on the same article using the same arguments. LiuWu87 used substantially the same arguments as NB in advancing the same positions regarding the content of the article on WikiIslam. Compare, for example, this comment in which LiuWu87 cites WP:NPOV to argue against the use of wikivoice for negative descriptors of WikiIslam against this comment by NB who argued the same position regarding the use of wikivoice by citing WP:NPOV.
- LiuWu87 has made unsolicited and opinionated comments regarding the circumstances of NB's block. When I pointed out that LiuWu87 was making arguments that had already been made (by NB), he responded, without identifying NB by name, that NB had been silenced and banned so that they could no longer provide any arguments.
- Like NB's previous sockpuppets, LiuWu87 has single-mindedly pursued a significant effort to present WikiIslam more favorably. LiuWu87's contributions have focused solely on WikiIslam since his registration. After failing to find a consensus in his favor on the first thread he created on the neutral point of view noticeboard, LiuWu87 went on to create a second thread on the same noticeboard in quick succession, in which at least three users have noted his repetitive line of reasoning and bludgeoning of the discussion. The contributions of the IP addresses used by NB, i.e., 117.197.85.21 and 117.197.85.21, demonstrated a similarly undeviating focus on presenting WikiIslam more favorably. Snuish ( talk) 23:50, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
- Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
CheckUser requested - Any chance there's anything in the CU log that could help?
Callanecc (
talk •
contribs •
logs)
11:12, 14 January 2023 (UTC)- NebulaOblongata is not stale, but unfortunately still
Inconclusive to
LiuWu87, as the latter has exclusively edited from proxies. --
Blablubbs (
talk)
13:41, 14 January 2023 (UTC) - @ Newslinger: You've had some experience with this one in the past, what are your thoughts? TheSandDoctor Talk 20:16, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm going to close this as the CU results aren't particularly helpful and at this point the account has gone inactive. Feel free to re-report if the account returns to activity. Thanks, Spicy ( talk) 22:47, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
NebulaOblongata
- NebulaOblongata ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
01 September 2022
Suspected sockpuppets
During their time on Wikipedia, NebulaOblongata posted dozens of comments on Talk:WikiIslam calling for the article subject to be described more favorably, and to remove or reduce the prominence of the word Islamophobic in the article. NebulaOblongata edit warred to remove variations of the word Islamophobic and Islamophobia from the WikiIslam article multiple times, contrary to the consensus of the cited high-quality academic sources:
- Special:Diff/1092548555: 23:39, 10 June 2022
- Special:Diff/1092860265: 02:07, 13 June 2022
- Special:Diff/1092906156: 10:30, 13 June 2022
- Special:Diff/1092907881: 10:47, 13 June 2022
- Special:Diff/1092912306: 11:34, 13 June 2022
- Special:Diff/1092913860: 11:49, 13 June 2022
NebulaOblongata was blocked on 4 July for the reason: "Clearly not here to build an encyclopedia, battleground mentality, uncollaborative (constant belittling sarcasm), disruptive editing". On 14 July, NebulaOblongata submitted an unblock request on their talk page, which has not yet been answered.
On 21 August, 117.251.198.179 began making near-identical edits to the WikiIslam article:
- Special:Diff/1105780001: 19:31, 21 August 2022, near-identical to Special:Diff/1092548555 (#1 from NebulaOblongata)
- Special:Diff/1105790234: 20:36, 21 August 2022, near-identical to Special:Diff/1092548555 (#1 from NebulaOblongata)
The talk page behavior of NebulaOblongata and 117.251.198.179 and 117.197.85.21 on Talk:WikiIslam are substantially similar, with both adopting a battleground mentality that was part of the rationale for NebulaOblongata's block. — Newslinger talk 23:26, 1 September 2022 (UTC) Edited 04:13, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- On 1 September, 117.197.85.21 was blocked for 48 hours for " Disruptive editing, including edit-warring". — Newslinger talk 01:09, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Added 117.251.198.179 to list and added 117.197.85.21 to above comment. 117.197.85.21 carried on the discussion at Talk:WikiIslam/Archive 2 § Islamophobic after 117.251.198.179 with the same arguments and writing style. — Newslinger talk 04:13, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Comments by other users
- Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
To pre-emptively address any questions about the connection between the two IP addresses, 117.197.85.21 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) acknowledges that 117.251.198.179 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) is the same individual. Snuish ( talk) 02:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Two things to note: (1) the IP uses a mobile platform, whereas NO did not; and (2) the IP does not act like a new editor.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 02:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Blocked both IPs one week. GeneralNotability ( talk) 01:10, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- @
GeneralNotability: You left my 48-hour block in place for the first IP.--
Bbb23 (
talk)
01:16, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, forgot to hit the "override blocks" button. Fixed, thanks. GeneralNotability ( talk) 01:17, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- @
GeneralNotability: You left my 48-hour block in place for the first IP.--
Bbb23 (
talk)
01:16, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
01 January 2023
Suspected sockpuppets
- LiuWu87 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
NebulaOblongata ("NB") is a blocked user who edited primarily from June to July 2022 in Islam-related topic areas, including the subject of WikiIslam; he attempted to change the article in favor of presenting its subject more favorably. He was blocked in early July for disruptive editing, among other reasons. He came back as two different IP addresses, which were also blocked as his sockpuppets, to continue the same work on the WikiIslam page.
NB has recently solicited user LiuWu87, who I suspect is his meatpuppet given the users' different writing styles and command of the English language, to continue those efforts to alter the WikiIslam page.
- LiuWu87 does not demonstrate the typical inexperience of a new user. LiuWu87 registered his account on 10:48, 23 December 2022, and immediately displayed familiarity with Wikipedia's dispute resolution processes, creating a new thread on the neutral point of view noticeboard within an hour of registering his account. He has also demonstrated awareness of the administrators noticeboard, conflict of interest noticeboard, and request for comment processes.
- LiuWu87 has advanced the same positions on the same article using the same arguments. LiuWu87 used substantially the same arguments as NB in advancing the same positions regarding the content of the article on WikiIslam. Compare, for example, this comment in which LiuWu87 cites WP:NPOV to argue against the use of wikivoice for negative descriptors of WikiIslam against this comment by NB who argued the same position regarding the use of wikivoice by citing WP:NPOV.
- LiuWu87 has made unsolicited and opinionated comments regarding the circumstances of NB's block. When I pointed out that LiuWu87 was making arguments that had already been made (by NB), he responded, without identifying NB by name, that NB had been silenced and banned so that they could no longer provide any arguments.
- Like NB's previous sockpuppets, LiuWu87 has single-mindedly pursued a significant effort to present WikiIslam more favorably. LiuWu87's contributions have focused solely on WikiIslam since his registration. After failing to find a consensus in his favor on the first thread he created on the neutral point of view noticeboard, LiuWu87 went on to create a second thread on the same noticeboard in quick succession, in which at least three users have noted his repetitive line of reasoning and bludgeoning of the discussion. The contributions of the IP addresses used by NB, i.e., 117.197.85.21 and 117.197.85.21, demonstrated a similarly undeviating focus on presenting WikiIslam more favorably. Snuish ( talk) 23:50, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
- Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- CheckUser requested - Any chance there's anything in the CU log that could help?
Callanecc (
talk •
contribs •
logs)
11:12, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- NebulaOblongata is not stale, but unfortunately still
Inconclusive to
LiuWu87, as the latter has exclusively edited from proxies. --
Blablubbs (
talk)
13:41, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- @ Newslinger: You've had some experience with this one in the past, what are your thoughts? TheSandDoctor Talk 20:16, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm going to close this as the CU results aren't particularly helpful and at this point the account has gone inactive. Feel free to re-report if the account returns to activity. Thanks, Spicy ( talk) 22:47, 17 February 2023 (UTC)