MilanVuko1
- MilanVuko1 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
20 November 2018
Suspected sockpuppets
- Duncangorka28 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- RuthMargolis ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
- Note:Duncangorka28 is one of four confirmed socks of master User:MilanVuko1 (fyi)
- Before being blocked on 15 November 2018, Duncangorka28 had posted several comments to Talk:War arguing strongly against the inclusion of a particular section titled "Long Peace".
- The RuthMargolis account was created on 17 November 2018, and on 19 November 2018, they made their first and so far only edit, to the War talk page where they are also argued strongly against inclusion of that same specific section, "Long Peace".
- Between the timing and very specific subject they are arguing, I figured this was worth a look by more experienced sock-hunting eyes than mine. Thanks - wolf 21:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Bah, I actually started it under Milo then changed it Duncan. Sorry you had to move it, I really am not at all familiar with SPI - wolf 00:33, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking. - wolf 01:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Clerk assistance requested: Please move to the correct master.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 22:12, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Done.
GAB
gab 23:30, 20 November 2018 (UTC)- RuthMargolis is
Unrelated. Closing.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 01:16, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
15 August 2019
Suspected sockpuppets
- AaronGray ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
It has been established that User:Arslansenk4242 is a sockpuppet of banned user User:MilanVuko1. It is also worth noting that all of the IPs listed above are located in Belgrade, Serbia, under an ISP called Telekom Srbija.
User:AaronGray and the Belgrade-based IPs above have been making strikingly similar edits to Arslansenk4242. I had an editing dispute with AaronGray, Arslansenk4242, and several of the IPs, at Pacifism in Islam, and then with several of the other IPs at Islam and violence and Pacifism. All of the disputes are over the same issue, a single line that states "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism", which keeps being restored by the accounts and IPs listed above. They also justify their edits with strikingly similar edit summaries, usually claiming they are reverting "back to" a "quality" or "well sourced" version, and/or saying something about what "normative means".
- On 1 May 2018, I made 3 edits to Pacifism in Islam which replaced the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism". On 18 May 2018, my 3 edits were reverted by AaronGray without explanation. AaronGray then engaged in a revert war with three other editors, User:Rufus Rose, User:Drmies, and User:Tillerh11. In response to Drmies's reverts, AaronGray reverted again with a summary including "it is well sourced and with high quallity sources." After being reverted by Tillerh11, AaronGray made no more edits to the article.
- On 1 August 2018, the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism" is again restored by 178.221.185.96, with the edit summary "well sourced content removed". The line is then restored again by 178.220.188.112 (summary "back to reliable sources for content what are removed, normative mean accepted by all main branches and schools"). A similar edit is then made by 178.220.188.205 with the same summary. A pattern is emerging here.
- On 13 September 2018, User:Arslansenk4242 appears and makes the following edit which restores the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism", and has an edit summary stating "rv to content from quality sources. I agree with previous explanations to normative mean accepted by all of main schools and branches of Islam. Normative means normative. Main branches mean main branches what existing now". This is completely matches the pattern established so far by AaronGray and the IPs. This appears to be a dead giveaway that AaronGray and the Belgrade-based IPs are the same editor as Arslansenk4242 (a confirmed sockpuppet of MilanVuko1).
- I was later engaged in an edit war with 178.221.249.176 during 20-21 February 2019, with the user 178.221.249.176 following the same pattern, restoring the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism" while justifying it with similar edit summaries ( "Reverted to good sources", "back to well established sources", etc.). At the same time, I debated the IP at Talk:Pacifism in Islam.
- At Islam and violence in July 2019, 109.93.186.50 (yet another Belgrade-based IP) was engaged in an edit war, initially reverting my edits, and then engaged in a revert war with other users. The IP kept restoring the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism", with similar edit summaries (e.g. "Everything is quality sourced"). 109.93.186.50 also posted a few comments at Talk:Islam and violence, with justifications similar to AaronGray, Arslansenk4242, and the other Belgrade-based IPs (e.g. "I put back old content, what is sourced and seems balanced").
- As for the other Belgrade-based IPs, their edit histories show a similar pattern, where they added or restored the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism", and justified it with similar edit summaries, at the articles Pacifism in Islam, Islam and violence, and Pacifism.
With the evidence above, I am certain that AaronGray and the Belgrade-based IPs above belong to MilanVuko1, due to their strikingly similar edits to the confirmed sockpuppet Arslansenk4242. Maestro2016 ( talk) 08:22, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
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- There is nothing to do here. I'm not sure why the user took the trouble to file this. Closing. Bbb23 ( talk) 14:18, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
MilanVuko1
- MilanVuko1 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
20 November 2018
Suspected sockpuppets
- Duncangorka28 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- RuthMargolis ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
- Note:Duncangorka28 is one of four confirmed socks of master User:MilanVuko1 (fyi)
- Before being blocked on 15 November 2018, Duncangorka28 had posted several comments to Talk:War arguing strongly against the inclusion of a particular section titled "Long Peace".
- The RuthMargolis account was created on 17 November 2018, and on 19 November 2018, they made their first and so far only edit, to the War talk page where they are also argued strongly against inclusion of that same specific section, "Long Peace".
- Between the timing and very specific subject they are arguing, I figured this was worth a look by more experienced sock-hunting eyes than mine. Thanks - wolf 21:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Bah, I actually started it under Milo then changed it Duncan. Sorry you had to move it, I really am not at all familiar with SPI - wolf 00:33, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking. - wolf 01:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Clerk assistance requested: Please move to the correct master.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 22:12, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Done.
GAB
gab 23:30, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- RuthMargolis is
Unrelated. Closing.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 01:16, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
15 August 2019
Suspected sockpuppets
- AaronGray ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
It has been established that User:Arslansenk4242 is a sockpuppet of banned user User:MilanVuko1. It is also worth noting that all of the IPs listed above are located in Belgrade, Serbia, under an ISP called Telekom Srbija.
User:AaronGray and the Belgrade-based IPs above have been making strikingly similar edits to Arslansenk4242. I had an editing dispute with AaronGray, Arslansenk4242, and several of the IPs, at Pacifism in Islam, and then with several of the other IPs at Islam and violence and Pacifism. All of the disputes are over the same issue, a single line that states "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism", which keeps being restored by the accounts and IPs listed above. They also justify their edits with strikingly similar edit summaries, usually claiming they are reverting "back to" a "quality" or "well sourced" version, and/or saying something about what "normative means".
- On 1 May 2018, I made 3 edits to Pacifism in Islam which replaced the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism". On 18 May 2018, my 3 edits were reverted by AaronGray without explanation. AaronGray then engaged in a revert war with three other editors, User:Rufus Rose, User:Drmies, and User:Tillerh11. In response to Drmies's reverts, AaronGray reverted again with a summary including "it is well sourced and with high quallity sources." After being reverted by Tillerh11, AaronGray made no more edits to the article.
- On 1 August 2018, the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism" is again restored by 178.221.185.96, with the edit summary "well sourced content removed". The line is then restored again by 178.220.188.112 (summary "back to reliable sources for content what are removed, normative mean accepted by all main branches and schools"). A similar edit is then made by 178.220.188.205 with the same summary. A pattern is emerging here.
- On 13 September 2018, User:Arslansenk4242 appears and makes the following edit which restores the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism", and has an edit summary stating "rv to content from quality sources. I agree with previous explanations to normative mean accepted by all of main schools and branches of Islam. Normative means normative. Main branches mean main branches what existing now". This is completely matches the pattern established so far by AaronGray and the IPs. This appears to be a dead giveaway that AaronGray and the Belgrade-based IPs are the same editor as Arslansenk4242 (a confirmed sockpuppet of MilanVuko1).
- I was later engaged in an edit war with 178.221.249.176 during 20-21 February 2019, with the user 178.221.249.176 following the same pattern, restoring the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism" while justifying it with similar edit summaries ( "Reverted to good sources", "back to well established sources", etc.). At the same time, I debated the IP at Talk:Pacifism in Islam.
- At Islam and violence in July 2019, 109.93.186.50 (yet another Belgrade-based IP) was engaged in an edit war, initially reverting my edits, and then engaged in a revert war with other users. The IP kept restoring the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism", with similar edit summaries (e.g. "Everything is quality sourced"). 109.93.186.50 also posted a few comments at Talk:Islam and violence, with justifications similar to AaronGray, Arslansenk4242, and the other Belgrade-based IPs (e.g. "I put back old content, what is sourced and seems balanced").
- As for the other Belgrade-based IPs, their edit histories show a similar pattern, where they added or restored the line "Islam does not have any normative tradition of pacifism", and justified it with similar edit summaries, at the articles Pacifism in Islam, Islam and violence, and Pacifism.
With the evidence above, I am certain that AaronGray and the Belgrade-based IPs above belong to MilanVuko1, due to their strikingly similar edits to the confirmed sockpuppet Arslansenk4242. Maestro2016 ( talk) 08:22, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- There is nothing to do here. I'm not sure why the user took the trouble to file this. Closing. Bbb23 ( talk) 14:18, 15 August 2019 (UTC)