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26 July 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

The users share an interest in Paulina Larocca--exclusive in the case of Inelectra and almost exclusive in the case of ShanksyOnko. Josher8a created the Larocca article in their sandbox, and Javieralexvr moved it to mainspace. After it was deleted by AFD, ShanksyOnko recreated in in their own sandbox and moved it mainspace. Inelectra removed a G4 tag. — teb728 t c 05:46, 26 July 2019 (UTC) reply

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23 July 2019

Suspected sockpuppets


The users are trying to create a page for film maker Mark Kendall, under different names, there seems to be a big sock farm who are professionally doing this. Meeanaya ( talk) 05:56, 23 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Draft:Mark Kendall (filmmaker) and Draft:Mark Kendall (artist). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meeanaya ( talk • contribs) 06:05, 23 July 2019 (UTC) reply


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21 August 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

blanked a series of drafts originally created by other Josher socks, no other edits. Joel.Miles925 ( talk) 13:38, 21 August 2019 (UTC) reply

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 Confirmed to Inelectra.  Blocked and tagged.
 —  Berean Hunter (talk) 21:28, 25 August 2019 (UTC) reply

10 September 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

This appear to be someone from the same sock farm. The account was registered a day before Neinneincat ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) and a few days after AG275421 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) was blocked, editing in the same area and first edit was to recreate Draft:Mark Kendall (filmmaker) under Draft:Mark Kendall. GSS ( talk| c| em) 06:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC) reply

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24 September 2019

Suspected sockpuppets


Looks to be a WP:DUCK case. I noticed a new editor, User:Cannot&wont, created Draft:123; on closer inspection, the draft looks to be an exact copy of Draft:Plastiq, a draft created twice by the Josher8a sockfarm. Requesting checkuser to flush out any sleeper accounts. SamHolt6 ( talk) 23:36, 24 September 2019 (UTC) reply

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21 October 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

Possible case of sockpuppetry. To begin, the suspected sockmaster (User:MasterWikiEdit) joined the project editing a number of different topics, including J. B. Hunt, which they added a good deal of content too. When this content was scaled back by other editors (most notably User:DGG), several new editors joined the project and seem to be collaborating with MasterWikiEdit. User:STinders, for example, make a few major edits to the J. B. Hunt article ( [1]), only to be revert and for MasterWikiEdit to re-implement a very similar yet suspiciously different version of these same edits ( [2]). Another red flag is the propensity for new editors to find their way to the article and remove maintenance templates, as was done here by User:Tacomanao here [3] and User:Legend-dary here [4]. However, the behavior that most strongly indicates sockpuppetry can be seen at Draft:Lisette Cooper (created by MAsterWikiEdit), which remained in the draftspace until User:Tacomanao moved ( [5]) it to the mainspace without any visible on-wiki coordination between the two; this is highly suspect given random drafts are not easily stumbled upon by new editors. Requesting checkuser to clear out any false positives. SamHolt6 ( talk) 23:24, 21 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Bbb23, both cases are back at the point before I touched them. Cabayi ( talk) 13:32, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Bbb23 -  Done. Case has been moved and histmerge'd to Josher8a. ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 20:59, 23 October 2019 (UTC) reply

04 November 2019

Suspected sockpuppets


Possibly two more editors linked to the Josher8a sockfarm. The first editor ( User:Simpleman2.3, now blocked) joined the project during one of the sockfarm's periods of activity, and indicated at Talk:J. B. Hunt that they were affiliated with the sockfarm, but later denied being involved with Josher8a. I would like checkuser to take a look, as this may determine whether they will be unblocked. The second editor ( User:Torontotonian) joined the project several days after the most recently confirmed socks were blocked, and immediately began editing in regards to Draft:Lisette Cooper, which the Josher8a sockfarm has been heavily involved with. It is possible this is a false positive and that Torontotonia is an unrelated paid editor, but certain points (like their being knowledgeable enough to add disabled categories in a draft and cite sources correctly) may imply they are not a new editor. Again, checkuser will go a ways to sort this out. SamHolt6 ( talk) 23:52, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply

Additional comment- Post checkuser, I have also noticed that today both editors I suspected (and one confirmed sock of Josher8a) returned from their editing breaks, all making edits ( [6], [7], [8]) without overlap in the span of <30 mins; it raises suspicions when a blocked editor (Javieralexvr) returns after a month of inactivity to appeal their block a few minutes after two “new” editors begin editing topics previously targeted by this sockfarm.@ TheSandDoctor: leaving this to you to evaluate as behavioral evidence in conjunction with the topic overlap discussed above. SamHolt6 ( talk) 04:28, 7 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Additional comment - In support of User:GSS's comment below, today User:64tsbitz made three edits (concluding with this one [9]) in relation to Draft:Mark Kendall (filmmaker), which has been created multiple times by the Josher8a sockfarm. 6 minutes later, User:Javieralexvr (a confirmed sock of Josher8a) return began editing [10] again, petitioning again for an unblock. In addition, it should be noted that User:64tsbitz's new incarnation of Draft:Mark Kendall (filmmaker) contains some in line references that are listed as being retrieved months before this draft was created; this strongly indicates this editor is either a returning editor or editing on behalf of another, as they (as a non-admin) should have no on-wiki way of recovering these sources. This is more behavioral evidence that should be evaluated. SamHolt6 ( talk) 22:40, 7 November 2019 (UTC) reply

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Can someone please also check user 64tsbitz ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)? a SPA whose only edits are recreating Draft:Mark Kendall under Draft:Mark Kendall (filmmaker). GSS  💬 02:52, 7 November 2019 (UTC) reply

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31 January 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

Some of the socks of this puppetmaster have submitted BLPs of Lisette Cooper, a title that is now salted in both article space and draft space. This account is now attempting to evade the salting of the title by creating the draft in user space. Request microscopic feather examination to compare this account against known socks that are less than three months old, and to look for more sleepers. Robert McClenon ( talk) 02:45, 31 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  •  Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely) - the non-stale socks were all using proxies. Based on the CU lok, AdrianaMerlan is on the same network as Josher8a was, before they started to use proxies. There was no sign of any additional accounts related to this master. ST47 ( talk) 05:55, 8 February 2020 (UTC) reply

19 June 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

Yet another recreation of Plastiq Inc. previously created by multiple Josher8a socks. The account was created yesterday and made not major edits outside this topic. Requesting CU for technical relation and sleepers. GSS  💬 16:38, 19 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Looking at their knowledge of disclosing paid editing status to create a well-formatted article this doesn't look like a brand new user to me and the article was previously deleted multiple times at Plastiq and Draft:Plastiq. GSS  💬 17:06, 19 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Thank you for checking Callanecc, the account is inactive since the article was created so they were registered "only" to recover their paid work with no interest to edit Wikipedia. GSS  💬 08:42, 20 June 2020 (UTC) reply

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13 September 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

This account is again trying to submit an article on Lisette Cooper, which has been repeatedly submitted by various accounts who either are or appear to be Josher8a socks. The title has been salted in both draft space and article space, and calling it Draft:Lis is gaming of naming.

One sock has data that is not stale and should be checked, although the record shows that most of the recent socks have been using open proxies. If they are using open proxies, are they using them on purpose, and is that use in itself an indication of evasion?

I thought that I had seen this puppeteer before. Robert McClenon ( talk) 23:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • I think "Josher8a" is more likely to be a paid editing ring than a specific person who's repeatedly recreating articles. Regardless, the geolocation is consistent with early socks, and this seems like more of the same. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 23:00, 14 September 2020 (UTC) reply
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Josher8a

Josher8a ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)

26 July 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

The users share an interest in Paulina Larocca--exclusive in the case of Inelectra and almost exclusive in the case of ShanksyOnko. Josher8a created the Larocca article in their sandbox, and Javieralexvr moved it to mainspace. After it was deleted by AFD, ShanksyOnko recreated in in their own sandbox and moved it mainspace. Inelectra removed a G4 tag. — teb728 t c 05:46, 26 July 2019 (UTC) reply

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23 July 2019

Suspected sockpuppets


The users are trying to create a page for film maker Mark Kendall, under different names, there seems to be a big sock farm who are professionally doing this. Meeanaya ( talk) 05:56, 23 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Draft:Mark Kendall (filmmaker) and Draft:Mark Kendall (artist). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meeanaya ( talk • contribs) 06:05, 23 July 2019 (UTC) reply


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21 August 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

blanked a series of drafts originally created by other Josher socks, no other edits. Joel.Miles925 ( talk) 13:38, 21 August 2019 (UTC) reply

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 Confirmed to Inelectra.  Blocked and tagged.
 —  Berean Hunter (talk) 21:28, 25 August 2019 (UTC) reply

10 September 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

This appear to be someone from the same sock farm. The account was registered a day before Neinneincat ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) and a few days after AG275421 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) was blocked, editing in the same area and first edit was to recreate Draft:Mark Kendall (filmmaker) under Draft:Mark Kendall. GSS ( talk| c| em) 06:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC) reply

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24 September 2019

Suspected sockpuppets


Looks to be a WP:DUCK case. I noticed a new editor, User:Cannot&wont, created Draft:123; on closer inspection, the draft looks to be an exact copy of Draft:Plastiq, a draft created twice by the Josher8a sockfarm. Requesting checkuser to flush out any sleeper accounts. SamHolt6 ( talk) 23:36, 24 September 2019 (UTC) reply

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21 October 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

Possible case of sockpuppetry. To begin, the suspected sockmaster (User:MasterWikiEdit) joined the project editing a number of different topics, including J. B. Hunt, which they added a good deal of content too. When this content was scaled back by other editors (most notably User:DGG), several new editors joined the project and seem to be collaborating with MasterWikiEdit. User:STinders, for example, make a few major edits to the J. B. Hunt article ( [1]), only to be revert and for MasterWikiEdit to re-implement a very similar yet suspiciously different version of these same edits ( [2]). Another red flag is the propensity for new editors to find their way to the article and remove maintenance templates, as was done here by User:Tacomanao here [3] and User:Legend-dary here [4]. However, the behavior that most strongly indicates sockpuppetry can be seen at Draft:Lisette Cooper (created by MAsterWikiEdit), which remained in the draftspace until User:Tacomanao moved ( [5]) it to the mainspace without any visible on-wiki coordination between the two; this is highly suspect given random drafts are not easily stumbled upon by new editors. Requesting checkuser to clear out any false positives. SamHolt6 ( talk) 23:24, 21 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Bbb23, both cases are back at the point before I touched them. Cabayi ( talk) 13:32, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Bbb23 -  Done. Case has been moved and histmerge'd to Josher8a. ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 20:59, 23 October 2019 (UTC) reply

04 November 2019

Suspected sockpuppets


Possibly two more editors linked to the Josher8a sockfarm. The first editor ( User:Simpleman2.3, now blocked) joined the project during one of the sockfarm's periods of activity, and indicated at Talk:J. B. Hunt that they were affiliated with the sockfarm, but later denied being involved with Josher8a. I would like checkuser to take a look, as this may determine whether they will be unblocked. The second editor ( User:Torontotonian) joined the project several days after the most recently confirmed socks were blocked, and immediately began editing in regards to Draft:Lisette Cooper, which the Josher8a sockfarm has been heavily involved with. It is possible this is a false positive and that Torontotonia is an unrelated paid editor, but certain points (like their being knowledgeable enough to add disabled categories in a draft and cite sources correctly) may imply they are not a new editor. Again, checkuser will go a ways to sort this out. SamHolt6 ( talk) 23:52, 4 November 2019 (UTC) reply

Additional comment- Post checkuser, I have also noticed that today both editors I suspected (and one confirmed sock of Josher8a) returned from their editing breaks, all making edits ( [6], [7], [8]) without overlap in the span of <30 mins; it raises suspicions when a blocked editor (Javieralexvr) returns after a month of inactivity to appeal their block a few minutes after two “new” editors begin editing topics previously targeted by this sockfarm.@ TheSandDoctor: leaving this to you to evaluate as behavioral evidence in conjunction with the topic overlap discussed above. SamHolt6 ( talk) 04:28, 7 November 2019 (UTC) reply
Additional comment - In support of User:GSS's comment below, today User:64tsbitz made three edits (concluding with this one [9]) in relation to Draft:Mark Kendall (filmmaker), which has been created multiple times by the Josher8a sockfarm. 6 minutes later, User:Javieralexvr (a confirmed sock of Josher8a) return began editing [10] again, petitioning again for an unblock. In addition, it should be noted that User:64tsbitz's new incarnation of Draft:Mark Kendall (filmmaker) contains some in line references that are listed as being retrieved months before this draft was created; this strongly indicates this editor is either a returning editor or editing on behalf of another, as they (as a non-admin) should have no on-wiki way of recovering these sources. This is more behavioral evidence that should be evaluated. SamHolt6 ( talk) 22:40, 7 November 2019 (UTC) reply

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Can someone please also check user 64tsbitz ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)? a SPA whose only edits are recreating Draft:Mark Kendall under Draft:Mark Kendall (filmmaker). GSS  💬 02:52, 7 November 2019 (UTC) reply

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

31 January 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

Some of the socks of this puppetmaster have submitted BLPs of Lisette Cooper, a title that is now salted in both article space and draft space. This account is now attempting to evade the salting of the title by creating the draft in user space. Request microscopic feather examination to compare this account against known socks that are less than three months old, and to look for more sleepers. Robert McClenon ( talk) 02:45, 31 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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  •  Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely) - the non-stale socks were all using proxies. Based on the CU lok, AdrianaMerlan is on the same network as Josher8a was, before they started to use proxies. There was no sign of any additional accounts related to this master. ST47 ( talk) 05:55, 8 February 2020 (UTC) reply

19 June 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

Yet another recreation of Plastiq Inc. previously created by multiple Josher8a socks. The account was created yesterday and made not major edits outside this topic. Requesting CU for technical relation and sleepers. GSS  💬 16:38, 19 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Looking at their knowledge of disclosing paid editing status to create a well-formatted article this doesn't look like a brand new user to me and the article was previously deleted multiple times at Plastiq and Draft:Plastiq. GSS  💬 17:06, 19 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Thank you for checking Callanecc, the account is inactive since the article was created so they were registered "only" to recover their paid work with no interest to edit Wikipedia. GSS  💬 08:42, 20 June 2020 (UTC) reply

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13 September 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

This account is again trying to submit an article on Lisette Cooper, which has been repeatedly submitted by various accounts who either are or appear to be Josher8a socks. The title has been salted in both draft space and article space, and calling it Draft:Lis is gaming of naming.

One sock has data that is not stale and should be checked, although the record shows that most of the recent socks have been using open proxies. If they are using open proxies, are they using them on purpose, and is that use in itself an indication of evasion?

I thought that I had seen this puppeteer before. Robert McClenon ( talk) 23:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • I think "Josher8a" is more likely to be a paid editing ring than a specific person who's repeatedly recreating articles. Regardless, the geolocation is consistent with early socks, and this seems like more of the same. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 23:00, 14 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Josher8a/Archive&oldid=1037774178"

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