LoL, ok first of all, this is a "retaliatory checkuser" because of my posting a checkuser request here. Second, the whole text above doesn't really make any sense :P. Just check me if you must and get it over with... -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 19:18, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
User:Kruško Mortale is a long-standing repeated sockpuppeteer.
[2] He's been indeff blocked (again). Its this same guy that keeps reappearing, this
User:The Dragon of Bosnia or
User:Grandy Grandy or
User:Journalist 007, etc... He needs to get his IP range-blocked for good. He's caused way too much trouble on Wikipedia.
Anyway, if anyone still wants to check his counter-claim be my guest... --
DIREKTOR (
TALK) 06:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
To the clerk, Kruško is currently a suspected sock of a blocked user (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Historičar). Historičar has previously started 'retaliatory' SSP cases against users he's disputing with (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mir Harven). A check can go ahead, but this seems to be fishing and I think it's pretty clear this isn't a good faith request. Spellcast ( talk) 20:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
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There is real possibility that User:PRODUCER is a sock puppet of User:DIREKTOR. There are too many similarities and overlaps between edits of these users, their names have very similar meaning (both of them are apparently named after a movie supervisory positions), there are even a number of copycat similarities between their userpages as well ( [3], Special:Contributions/DIREKTOR, Special:Contributions/PRODUCER, User:DIREKTOR, User:PRODUCER). This issue should be investigated as soon as possible. -- Иван Богданов ( talk) 21:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
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I'll be bold and blunt: with several years on Wikipedia and an edit count surpassing some 22,000 edits, I'm not your average newbie stupid enough to create a sock called User:PRODUCER (or any sock for that matter). PRODUCER and I argued at times, I'm from Croatia, he's from Bosnia I think, etc. (I think we just recently disagreed about the size of a template image on Template:Politics of Yugoslavia.)
Lets check me and be done with it. :) -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 10:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I suppose what strikes me as odd is why now raise suspicions of sock puppetry? Both accounts were created a long while ago, both has similar userpages, and both edit articles on similar topics. To me, something like this would have been easily pinpointed and reported long ago. Again, why now? – MuZemike 22:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Self-endorsing for CheckUser attention. If what DIREKTOR is saying is true, then CU should come back with that result. – MuZemike 17:22, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
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DIREKTOR has a very strong sympathy towards inclusion Tito in image of Croats. see here And he was very persistent defending him. see here Clockwork_Orange has been defending Tito with the same arguments although it was his firste contact with article Croats. [4] ON the article Ivo Josipović Direktor and Timbouctou have been defending the same removal. [5] Kennechten ( talk) 09:14, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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Actually Aradic-es has been very active recently through IP's. [6] -- ◅PRODUCER ( TALK) 21:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
User:DIREKTOR was recently baned from editing of all Balkans articles and talkpages, broadly construed, for 6 months. This was his last edit in one Balkan article before he noticed that he is banned. That edit was then reverted by another user, but after 3 days an IP number appeared and made a change in that article that is similar to last change of User:DIREKTOR. There should be check is there an connection between that IP and User:DIREKTOR. It seems to me that he using this IP to avoid block. PANONIAN 18:29, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
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For the record, it isn't me. I'm the guy that hunts socks, not creates them (I must've reported dozens over the years). I'm not that stupid. I'll also add that the IP altered my edits with his post, linking to " Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" directly, instead of via the " Democratic Federal Yugoslavia" redirect which I introduced several times (" Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" is anachronistic as the infobox applies to the year 1944 and "Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" was the name instituted in 1963).
P.S. That IP is from Canada if I'm not mistaken. I am currently in Split, Croatia. -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 00:01, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I don't see enough evidence of a connection here to warrant any action. Why is it DIREKTOR and not one of a hundred other users involved in this topic area? TN X Man 19:00, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
DIREKTOR is
Unrelated to the IP.
TN
X
Man 14:03, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I want to ask you for help. I noticed this edit of User:Peacemaker67 and after I reverted an obviously inaccurate edit (there is no evidence that term "Nedić regime" was used as a name for territory) I checked edits of User:Peacemaker67 and I concluded that edits and views of this user are extremely similar to those of User:DIREKTOR. Furthermore, my view is shared by other two users, please see this and this. Furthermore, it was User:DIREKTOR who created userpage of User:Peacemaker67 (see evidence - the first edit on that list: [8]. I think that you should check is User:Peacemaker67 a sockpuppet of User:DIREKTOR - there is notable amount of similar topics of interest and views shared by these two accounts and there is also an mass POV revert warring involved with multiple users (please see diffs: [9], [10], [11]. Here User:DIREKTOR reverted article to last version by User:Peacemaker67. Furthermore, User:Peacemaker67 claims to live in Australia, so if checkuser shows that he lives in Croatia (as user:DIREKTOR), we will have an evidence of disruption. Also note that User:DIREKTOR has a history of disruptive behaviour and topic ban from all Balkans articles and talkpages was imposed on him by an admin (see evidence here on the bottom of the page: [12]). Ban was later lifted because of procedural mistake of the admin, but evidence about history of disruptive behavior in the past is clearly here. PANONIAN 21:49, 25 March 2012 (UTC) PANONIAN 21:49, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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I do not wish to give the impression that I am troubled in the slightest by the possible outcome of a checkuser, in fact I think it might be a good idea just to put a stop to this nonsense - because I find this sort of borderline harassment intensely annoying. This is nothing more than an attempt to use an alternative to sourced discussion on a subject. We are not the same person, that is utter nonsense, and (attempts at character assassination aside) there is no real evidence whatsoever that would suggest anything of the sort. The report should be rejected outright on those grounds.
It should be noted that User:PANONIAN has decided to try and block User:Peacemaker67 only after noticing this thread, in which Peacemaker has stated he might oppose PANONIAN's position in a content dispute. The same thing was attempted previously by User:FkpCascais [13], an apparent "ally" of PANONIAN in this endeavor [14] (though notably even FkpCascais did not entertain the ridiculous notion that Peacemaker67 and I are the same person). -- Director ( talk) 21:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you PANONIAN for the good laugh. Scoffing at this report at face value, I decided to see if there was any measurable substance to your claims other than "baww they have opposing views to mine that means they're obviously the same person". My search made this report even more hilarious. I ran DIREKTOR and Peacemaker67 through the "wikichecker" program, and this is what I found: DIREKTOR Peacemaker67 (if you get a 403 error, just click refresh until it works). It is plainer than day that the editing patterns of these two users could not be more different: by day of week and by time of day. What's more, the patterns check out for the parts of the world they claim to be from. Yeah, their edits "never occur in same minute"—they live in different corners of the globe. What did you think, that DIREKTOR stays up 24/7 solely to carry on internet disputes with you? Think! Checkuser shouldn't even be needed here; it is obvious that this is just disruptive fishing. I have half a mind to run you through a pesky SPI with WhiteWriter and FkpCascais for the same nonsense "reasons" that you started this one for. I won't, though. I'm just going to sit here and hope that you get whacked by a curved Australian Aboriginal hunting weapon for this blatantly belligerent battleground behaviour. Harrumph. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 07:06, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Declined: I do not see a scintilla of evidence that would warrant running a check.
Salvio
Let's talk about it! 12:16, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
See the upload history: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Russian_Civil_War_poster.jpg - Altenmann >t 06:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Also, quite overlapping interests. (May well be brothers :-) - Altenmann >t 06:48, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
At the same time, demonstratively similar names may indicate they are not the same person, just baiting. I am not ready to accuse of meatpuppetry. - Altenmann >t 06:49, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
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LoL, ok first of all, this is a "retaliatory checkuser" because of my posting a checkuser request here. Second, the whole text above doesn't really make any sense :P. Just check me if you must and get it over with... -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 19:18, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
User:Kruško Mortale is a long-standing repeated sockpuppeteer.
[2] He's been indeff blocked (again). Its this same guy that keeps reappearing, this
User:The Dragon of Bosnia or
User:Grandy Grandy or
User:Journalist 007, etc... He needs to get his IP range-blocked for good. He's caused way too much trouble on Wikipedia.
Anyway, if anyone still wants to check his counter-claim be my guest... --
DIREKTOR (
TALK) 06:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
To the clerk, Kruško is currently a suspected sock of a blocked user (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Historičar). Historičar has previously started 'retaliatory' SSP cases against users he's disputing with (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mir Harven). A check can go ahead, but this seems to be fishing and I think it's pretty clear this isn't a good faith request. Spellcast ( talk) 20:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
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There is real possibility that User:PRODUCER is a sock puppet of User:DIREKTOR. There are too many similarities and overlaps between edits of these users, their names have very similar meaning (both of them are apparently named after a movie supervisory positions), there are even a number of copycat similarities between their userpages as well ( [3], Special:Contributions/DIREKTOR, Special:Contributions/PRODUCER, User:DIREKTOR, User:PRODUCER). This issue should be investigated as soon as possible. -- Иван Богданов ( talk) 21:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
See Defending yourself against claims.
I'll be bold and blunt: with several years on Wikipedia and an edit count surpassing some 22,000 edits, I'm not your average newbie stupid enough to create a sock called User:PRODUCER (or any sock for that matter). PRODUCER and I argued at times, I'm from Croatia, he's from Bosnia I think, etc. (I think we just recently disagreed about the size of a template image on Template:Politics of Yugoslavia.)
Lets check me and be done with it. :) -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 10:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I suppose what strikes me as odd is why now raise suspicions of sock puppetry? Both accounts were created a long while ago, both has similar userpages, and both edit articles on similar topics. To me, something like this would have been easily pinpointed and reported long ago. Again, why now? – MuZemike 22:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Self-endorsing for CheckUser attention. If what DIREKTOR is saying is true, then CU should come back with that result. – MuZemike 17:22, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
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DIREKTOR has a very strong sympathy towards inclusion Tito in image of Croats. see here And he was very persistent defending him. see here Clockwork_Orange has been defending Tito with the same arguments although it was his firste contact with article Croats. [4] ON the article Ivo Josipović Direktor and Timbouctou have been defending the same removal. [5] Kennechten ( talk) 09:14, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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Actually Aradic-es has been very active recently through IP's. [6] -- ◅PRODUCER ( TALK) 21:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
User:DIREKTOR was recently baned from editing of all Balkans articles and talkpages, broadly construed, for 6 months. This was his last edit in one Balkan article before he noticed that he is banned. That edit was then reverted by another user, but after 3 days an IP number appeared and made a change in that article that is similar to last change of User:DIREKTOR. There should be check is there an connection between that IP and User:DIREKTOR. It seems to me that he using this IP to avoid block. PANONIAN 18:29, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
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For the record, it isn't me. I'm the guy that hunts socks, not creates them (I must've reported dozens over the years). I'm not that stupid. I'll also add that the IP altered my edits with his post, linking to " Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" directly, instead of via the " Democratic Federal Yugoslavia" redirect which I introduced several times (" Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" is anachronistic as the infobox applies to the year 1944 and "Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" was the name instituted in 1963).
P.S. That IP is from Canada if I'm not mistaken. I am currently in Split, Croatia. -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 00:01, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I don't see enough evidence of a connection here to warrant any action. Why is it DIREKTOR and not one of a hundred other users involved in this topic area? TN X Man 19:00, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
DIREKTOR is
Unrelated to the IP.
TN
X
Man 14:03, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I want to ask you for help. I noticed this edit of User:Peacemaker67 and after I reverted an obviously inaccurate edit (there is no evidence that term "Nedić regime" was used as a name for territory) I checked edits of User:Peacemaker67 and I concluded that edits and views of this user are extremely similar to those of User:DIREKTOR. Furthermore, my view is shared by other two users, please see this and this. Furthermore, it was User:DIREKTOR who created userpage of User:Peacemaker67 (see evidence - the first edit on that list: [8]. I think that you should check is User:Peacemaker67 a sockpuppet of User:DIREKTOR - there is notable amount of similar topics of interest and views shared by these two accounts and there is also an mass POV revert warring involved with multiple users (please see diffs: [9], [10], [11]. Here User:DIREKTOR reverted article to last version by User:Peacemaker67. Furthermore, User:Peacemaker67 claims to live in Australia, so if checkuser shows that he lives in Croatia (as user:DIREKTOR), we will have an evidence of disruption. Also note that User:DIREKTOR has a history of disruptive behaviour and topic ban from all Balkans articles and talkpages was imposed on him by an admin (see evidence here on the bottom of the page: [12]). Ban was later lifted because of procedural mistake of the admin, but evidence about history of disruptive behavior in the past is clearly here. PANONIAN 21:49, 25 March 2012 (UTC) PANONIAN 21:49, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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I do not wish to give the impression that I am troubled in the slightest by the possible outcome of a checkuser, in fact I think it might be a good idea just to put a stop to this nonsense - because I find this sort of borderline harassment intensely annoying. This is nothing more than an attempt to use an alternative to sourced discussion on a subject. We are not the same person, that is utter nonsense, and (attempts at character assassination aside) there is no real evidence whatsoever that would suggest anything of the sort. The report should be rejected outright on those grounds.
It should be noted that User:PANONIAN has decided to try and block User:Peacemaker67 only after noticing this thread, in which Peacemaker has stated he might oppose PANONIAN's position in a content dispute. The same thing was attempted previously by User:FkpCascais [13], an apparent "ally" of PANONIAN in this endeavor [14] (though notably even FkpCascais did not entertain the ridiculous notion that Peacemaker67 and I are the same person). -- Director ( talk) 21:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you PANONIAN for the good laugh. Scoffing at this report at face value, I decided to see if there was any measurable substance to your claims other than "baww they have opposing views to mine that means they're obviously the same person". My search made this report even more hilarious. I ran DIREKTOR and Peacemaker67 through the "wikichecker" program, and this is what I found: DIREKTOR Peacemaker67 (if you get a 403 error, just click refresh until it works). It is plainer than day that the editing patterns of these two users could not be more different: by day of week and by time of day. What's more, the patterns check out for the parts of the world they claim to be from. Yeah, their edits "never occur in same minute"—they live in different corners of the globe. What did you think, that DIREKTOR stays up 24/7 solely to carry on internet disputes with you? Think! Checkuser shouldn't even be needed here; it is obvious that this is just disruptive fishing. I have half a mind to run you through a pesky SPI with WhiteWriter and FkpCascais for the same nonsense "reasons" that you started this one for. I won't, though. I'm just going to sit here and hope that you get whacked by a curved Australian Aboriginal hunting weapon for this blatantly belligerent battleground behaviour. Harrumph. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 07:06, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Declined: I do not see a scintilla of evidence that would warrant running a check.
Salvio
Let's talk about it! 12:16, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
See the upload history: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Russian_Civil_War_poster.jpg - Altenmann >t 06:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Also, quite overlapping interests. (May well be brothers :-) - Altenmann >t 06:48, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
At the same time, demonstratively similar names may indicate they are not the same person, just baiting. I am not ready to accuse of meatpuppetry. - Altenmann >t 06:49, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.