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19 December 2010
Suspected sockpuppets


Please list evidence below this line. Remember to sign at the end of your section with 4 tilde characters "~~~~"

A single person or more likely two COI SPAs whose sole purpose here is to advertise a military public relations stunt that targets children ( NORAD Tracks Santa). The users insist on giving undue weight to their advertising programme and describing it in an in-universe perspective. Last year they even spammed links to it to unrelated articles such as Neuschwanstein Castle. The matter appeared to be resolved last year with the creation of wikia:noradsanta, but this year there are two new accounts (1+5, last year 2+3 were active), one of which is taking the dispute to new articles: Ded Moroz (presumably because it isn't semi-protected) and then Santa Claus. Hans Adler 08:57, 19 December 2010 (UTC) reply

PS: I added FatherFrost, a username-blocked account, because of this. Hans Adler 09:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC) reply

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 Confirmed:

 IP blocked – MuZemike 09:08, 19 December 2010 (UTC) reply

17 April 2011
Suspected sockpuppets


All three accounts appear obsessed with Santa Claus. The first two accounts were created within a minute of each other, 4 hours after the previous sock drawer was blocked. The Patric.covey account was created later, and the two other accounts only started editing after it was created.

Johntoshiba
First article space edit cites a scanned book page hosted on Wikia as part of NORAD Tracks Santa Wiki.
Zedcannon
First edit copies content from wikia:noradsanta:Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus but forgets to remove the "Wikipedia:" prefixes.
Patric.covey
First article space edit copies content from wikia:noradsanta:Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus but forgets to remove one of the "Wikipedia:" prefixes.

I have rarely seen a clearer DUCK case. Hans Adler 08:40, 17 April 2011 (UTC) reply

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

All  Confirmed as each other plus:

I also agree that they're all clearly socks of BillJohnson0003.  IP blocked. – MuZemike 08:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Marking for close. TN X Man 12:20, 17 April 2011 (UTC) reply
30 May 2011
Suspected sockpuppets


Please list evidence below this line. Remember to sign at the end of your section with 4 tilde characters "~~~~"

Same obsession with NORAD Tracks Santa. Compare user page with this. Edits are also typical: Importing a huge chunk of text from NORAD Tracks Santa Wiki, then fixing the links. [1] Hans Adler 12:21, 30 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Even though the result is just "possible", I believe there is more than enough evidence for a DUCK block. This is actually what I expected here; except for checking for sleepers there was no need for CU. The user continues to make bizarre edits such as this, or excessive pounding on the fact that a single user (Jack Sebastian) enabled the disruptive behaviour of a previous incarnation.
Now can someone block the user please? Hans Adler 22:09, 30 May 2011 (UTC) reply
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Why is every editor who dares goes against the Bristish-German editor "clique" on the NORAD Tracks Santa article accused of being a "sock puppet" or a "meat puppet" of NORAD and NORAD Public Affirs (who are supposedly in the guise of banned users ??

User:Jack Sebsation ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jack_Sebastian) at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Santa_Claus/Archive_8#Santa_tracking_websites had to counsel and caution both Simon Peter Hughes and Hans Adler against wholesale reversion and how "I don't believe that the consensus you speak of is that clear, Hans.I'll let other people chime in before commenting, though. I will additionally point out that arbitrarily turning the clock back to your favored version is not only non-conducive (because it's always going to get reverted) but not really in keeping with the idea of collaborative editing. When you remove a lot of contributions, you are saying that their contributions aren't important. But lets get some input from others. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 20:51, 20 December 2010 (UTC) "

I am also following the Wikiepdia dictum as articuled by Jack Sebasation of "we are doing what we are specifically tasked to do - we report that which is reliably sourced. Period. Anything else is superfluous. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 07:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC) " and "There are cited sources supporting each of the statements made, and citations beat the living snot out of anything but citations directly' opposing it. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 07:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Santa_Claus/Archive_8#Santa_tracking_websites

I see great material out on the Internet. I go and find substantiating sources beyond a set of Wiki's and blogs to other websites and newspapers and other places.

This arbitraty approach of banning editors as "meat puppets" and "Sock puppets" of NORAD is bull crap.

I also have a letter from NORAD attesting to my independence here below on "Certification from NORAD Public Affairs as to Editors Independence" -

From: Humphreys, Michael S LTC NORAD USNORTHCOM HQs PA

Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 1:58 PM

To: Albert Chan

Subject: Re: Certification of Albert Chan Independence from NORAD and NORAD Public Affairs

I certify that you, Albert Chan and others are not, have not, and will not be employed by NORAD, nor NORAD Public Affairs, nor any NORAD Partner(s), and that furthermore you and others perform editing on Wikipedia and elsewhere without any direction whatsoever, directly or indirectly, from NORAD, NORAD Public Affairs, and any Partners.

V/R – LTC Michael S Humphreys NORAD Public Affairs

Albert z chan (talk) 00:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Albert z chan ( talk) 14:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC) reply

@admin. Please block the account so we can remove the fluff without edit warring. -- Enric Naval ( talk) 15:17, 30 May 2011 (UTC) reply

To verify independence contact these. - They are the government and you can trust the government.

Contact - HQ NORAD Public Affairs Office at Telephone: (719) 554-2608/6889 and E-mail of nnc.pa.nts.omb@northcom.mil to verify the below.

Albert z chan ( talk) 16:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
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BillJohnson0003

BillJohnson0003 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
19 December 2010
Suspected sockpuppets


Please list evidence below this line. Remember to sign at the end of your section with 4 tilde characters "~~~~"

A single person or more likely two COI SPAs whose sole purpose here is to advertise a military public relations stunt that targets children ( NORAD Tracks Santa). The users insist on giving undue weight to their advertising programme and describing it in an in-universe perspective. Last year they even spammed links to it to unrelated articles such as Neuschwanstein Castle. The matter appeared to be resolved last year with the creation of wikia:noradsanta, but this year there are two new accounts (1+5, last year 2+3 were active), one of which is taking the dispute to new articles: Ded Moroz (presumably because it isn't semi-protected) and then Santa Claus. Hans Adler 08:57, 19 December 2010 (UTC) reply

PS: I added FatherFrost, a username-blocked account, because of this. Hans Adler 09:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC) reply

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.


Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 Confirmed:

 IP blocked – MuZemike 09:08, 19 December 2010 (UTC) reply

17 April 2011
Suspected sockpuppets


All three accounts appear obsessed with Santa Claus. The first two accounts were created within a minute of each other, 4 hours after the previous sock drawer was blocked. The Patric.covey account was created later, and the two other accounts only started editing after it was created.

Johntoshiba
First article space edit cites a scanned book page hosted on Wikia as part of NORAD Tracks Santa Wiki.
Zedcannon
First edit copies content from wikia:noradsanta:Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus but forgets to remove the "Wikipedia:" prefixes.
Patric.covey
First article space edit copies content from wikia:noradsanta:Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus but forgets to remove one of the "Wikipedia:" prefixes.

I have rarely seen a clearer DUCK case. Hans Adler 08:40, 17 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.


Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

All  Confirmed as each other plus:

I also agree that they're all clearly socks of BillJohnson0003.  IP blocked. – MuZemike 08:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Marking for close. TN X Man 12:20, 17 April 2011 (UTC) reply
30 May 2011
Suspected sockpuppets


Please list evidence below this line. Remember to sign at the end of your section with 4 tilde characters "~~~~"

Same obsession with NORAD Tracks Santa. Compare user page with this. Edits are also typical: Importing a huge chunk of text from NORAD Tracks Santa Wiki, then fixing the links. [1] Hans Adler 12:21, 30 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Even though the result is just "possible", I believe there is more than enough evidence for a DUCK block. This is actually what I expected here; except for checking for sleepers there was no need for CU. The user continues to make bizarre edits such as this, or excessive pounding on the fact that a single user (Jack Sebastian) enabled the disruptive behaviour of a previous incarnation.
Now can someone block the user please? Hans Adler 22:09, 30 May 2011 (UTC) reply
Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Why is every editor who dares goes against the Bristish-German editor "clique" on the NORAD Tracks Santa article accused of being a "sock puppet" or a "meat puppet" of NORAD and NORAD Public Affirs (who are supposedly in the guise of banned users ??

User:Jack Sebsation ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jack_Sebastian) at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Santa_Claus/Archive_8#Santa_tracking_websites had to counsel and caution both Simon Peter Hughes and Hans Adler against wholesale reversion and how "I don't believe that the consensus you speak of is that clear, Hans.I'll let other people chime in before commenting, though. I will additionally point out that arbitrarily turning the clock back to your favored version is not only non-conducive (because it's always going to get reverted) but not really in keeping with the idea of collaborative editing. When you remove a lot of contributions, you are saying that their contributions aren't important. But lets get some input from others. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 20:51, 20 December 2010 (UTC) "

I am also following the Wikiepdia dictum as articuled by Jack Sebasation of "we are doing what we are specifically tasked to do - we report that which is reliably sourced. Period. Anything else is superfluous. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 07:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC) " and "There are cited sources supporting each of the statements made, and citations beat the living snot out of anything but citations directly' opposing it. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 07:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Santa_Claus/Archive_8#Santa_tracking_websites

I see great material out on the Internet. I go and find substantiating sources beyond a set of Wiki's and blogs to other websites and newspapers and other places.

This arbitraty approach of banning editors as "meat puppets" and "Sock puppets" of NORAD is bull crap.

I also have a letter from NORAD attesting to my independence here below on "Certification from NORAD Public Affairs as to Editors Independence" -

From: Humphreys, Michael S LTC NORAD USNORTHCOM HQs PA

Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 1:58 PM

To: Albert Chan

Subject: Re: Certification of Albert Chan Independence from NORAD and NORAD Public Affairs

I certify that you, Albert Chan and others are not, have not, and will not be employed by NORAD, nor NORAD Public Affairs, nor any NORAD Partner(s), and that furthermore you and others perform editing on Wikipedia and elsewhere without any direction whatsoever, directly or indirectly, from NORAD, NORAD Public Affairs, and any Partners.

V/R – LTC Michael S Humphreys NORAD Public Affairs

Albert z chan (talk) 00:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Albert z chan ( talk) 14:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC) reply

@admin. Please block the account so we can remove the fluff without edit warring. -- Enric Naval ( talk) 15:17, 30 May 2011 (UTC) reply

To verify independence contact these. - They are the government and you can trust the government.

Contact - HQ NORAD Public Affairs Office at Telephone: (719) 554-2608/6889 and E-mail of nnc.pa.nts.omb@northcom.mil to verify the below.

Albert z chan ( talk) 16:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BillJohnson0003/Archive&oldid=1043551462"

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