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BarzanPDK18 on 24 March 2010
[2] •
142.165.218.56 on 26 March 2010
[3] •
BarzanPDK16 on 23 March 2010
[4] •
122.164.243.70 on 26 March 2010
ܥܝܪܐܩ (
talk)
18:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: case moved from
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/142.165.218.56 to /BarzanPDK18
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
10:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: duplicate case
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BarzanPDK20 moved here.
Elockid (
Talk)
02:15, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note Two obvious socks blocked, I blocked the /24 for 2 weeks.
Tim Song (
talk)
20:45, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
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Additional information needed
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
17:17, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm inclined to think that the filer of this SPI is sock of a blocked and/or banned user. When the filer filed this SPI, it was his/her second edit, not very typical of a new user. Also, ܥܝܪܐܩ the person who is being investigated in this SPI recently filed Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BarzanPDK18 which is currently active. There might be a relation, but that's just me. Elockid ( Talk) 21:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed to check the filer of this case against
Per Elockid, and personal observation. Thanks, Spitfire Tally-ho! 21:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Peshmarga&diff=352583128&oldid=352579649
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=PJAK&action=history
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Kurdistan_TV&action=history
ܥܝܪܐܩ (
talk)
19:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: Moved from
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RojNews18
Elockid (
Talk)
19:13, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed I can use a check here.
Tim Song (
talk)
16:39, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Confirmed; nasty nest:
Possible:
Annoyingly all over very large ranges with lots of good edits, so no reasonable range blocks possible. — Coren (talk) 00:31, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 22:14, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Same Saskatchewan-based Kurdish nationalist. ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 22:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed The IPs are clearly him/her as both geolocate to the Saskatchewan in the same city with the same ISP and the edits made are similar and are towards the same types of articles. However, Barzan does have an affinity to creating lots of socks while also editing logged out, we could use another sleeper check.
Elockid (
Talk)
12:53, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: moved from
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/207.47.163.102
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
22:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk declined This is a DUCK case which doesn't need CheckUser. What we have is someone using throwaway IPs. I've blocked the 207 IP for 24 hours, but he's going to keep hopping like this, then I don't think there's much else we can do here. –
MuZemike
02:34, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
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All are present on Abdullah Öcalan and on other articles relating to Kurdish areas and political parties in Iraq and Turkey. Common traits are treating Iraqi Kurdistan or Kurdistan as if they were nation states, replacing the actual countries in question. Bolding of names like Iraqi Kurdistan. Changing the categories to certain ones they approve of (e.g. Yazidi). Adding and readding an infobox to Abdullah Öcalan. Removing Arabic spelling and pronunciation and other references to ethnic groups other than Kurds (not all have done that). Also note similarity in name between KomaMelek and KomaPizza. Not sure that TVLoverboy is the ultimate puppetmaster but I have put this in his name as that seems to be the oldest user of the group. The sad thing is that there is clearly some wiki skill and some ability to do valid edits here but it is all compromised by a POV agenda and the willingness to engage in sockpuppetry. DanielRigal ( talk) 00:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: Moved from
WP:Sockpuppet investigations/TVLoverboy.
Auntie E. (
talk)
03:13, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed I see enough behavioral evidence to endorse, with a request for CU to check for a connection between the above accounts and
BarzanPDK18 (
talk ·
contribs ·
deleted contribs ·
page moves ·
block user ·
block log).
Auntie E. (
talk)
03:50, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: Moved from
WP:Sockpuppet investigations/McDLover16 per checkuser results --
Shirik (
Questions or Comments?)
06:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 03:35, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
User:KBCMJ blocked as admitted sockpuppet, abusive comments. -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 07:12, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Another account just appeared and was blocked: SubwayLover ( talk · contribs) -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 22:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Here are some stats:
I find this astonishing. Can nothing be done to put a stop to this? -- DanielRigal ( talk) 23:03, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: Moved from
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Centralboy.
Elockid (
Talk)
03:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed Although I see it as a
WP:DUCK, I'm going to recommend CU for a sweep of sleepers, also going to put in a request for a possible hardblock of the IP.
Auntie E. (
talk)
05:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Possible that the following are related to each other:
-- Deskana (talk) 02:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note Centralboy blocked indef per
DUCK and tagged. IPhoneBoy567 has not edited yet, so I'm not blocking it at the moment.
Elockid (
Talk)
14:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 05:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note Blocked. Name is similar, and it
Restored an edit by a confirmed sock. ~ Amory (
u •
t •
c)
05:56, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 23:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Western_Asia&diff=prev&oldid=357154822
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Western_Asia&diff=prev&oldid=357107901
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive
ܥܝܪܐܩ (
talk)
06:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
See Defending yourself against claims.
Administrator note Blocked the account after he showed up on my talk page. Per
WP:DUCK. --
Gogo Dodo (
talk)
22:11, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
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This user shows exactly the same pattern of editing as all the previous blocked socks of this blocked user on mostly the same articles: Kurdish Nationalist POV, insertion of Kurdish flags, bolding of certain Kurdish names (e.g "PKK"), changing categories, removing valid content and templates. Refer to edits by previous confirmed socks for more detail of the editing pattern. This one quacks unambiguously so I have already reverted all his edits. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 13:24, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tagged.
TN
X
Man
13:29, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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This looks like yet another sockpuppet for BarzanPDK18. Note the preference for the PNG version of the Kurdish flag over the SVG one and the attempts to rewrite Iraqi Kurdistan greatly de-emphasising its existence as part of Iraq. Also removal of templates that link it to Iraq topics. With only three edits, this one doesn't quack as loudly as his average sock but my theory is that he is probing to see if he can get anywhere by being a bit less blatant in his POV editing campaign. Clearly he has no intention of stopping. I think we need to block his IP range before he does learn to fly under our radar and start getting his stuff in.
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Definitely him. I think Daniel is right that a rangeblock is the only way to stop this. ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 19:46, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note Both accounts blocked per
WP:DUCK and self-declared. A CU with an IP block or a range block may be helpful in this case, if a range can be safely determined. --
Gogo Dodo (
talk)
06:34, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed range blocking is probably not going to be possible here, as BarzanPDK18 tends to hop around on their range too much. However, endorsed for a sleeper check on the accounts listed above, which are pretty obviously related per
1
2 &
3. Thanks
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
11:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
No sleepers found. I have placed a rather small range block. This block has the advantage of having no collateral damage, so I was able to place a hard block... but it may or may not contain BarzanPDK18. -- Deskana (talk) 02:15, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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This seems to be this blocked user and repeat puppetmaster coming back for another try after lying low for a while. Note the insistence on removing the perfectly uncontroversial note that Turkey is partially in Europe from Western Asia (which is a signature quirk he has), his preference for the PNG rather than SVG version of the Kurdish flag on Ey Reqîb (another signature quirk) and his general editing pattern in which he pretends that Kurdistan is already a country (distinct from the stance you would normally expect from a Kurdish Nationalist, i.e that is isn't yet but should become a country). He even uploaded a map of its supposed borders. His wiki skills are improving and his editing style is less obvious than it was. He has made some valid redirects, but his content remains highly POV. Rather than unpick the good and bad bits I have just reverted most of it.
Note 1: Checkuser requested partially for confirmation that his really is him and not another like-minded Kurdish Nationalist, and partially to check for sleepers as he created this account 6 days before first using it. If checkuser is inappropriate then please disregard and treat as a normal report.
Note 2: He seems to be honing his wiki skills somewhere. Perhaps somebody with the relevant language skills might want to check that he isn't putting similar POV material into any other language Wikipedias. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 13:45, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
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Clerk endorsed In addition to the submitted evidence, editing times are consistent with both the master and earlier confirmed socks. Additionally, editing history matches former socks. I note that edit summary patterns are identical, but common. Noting that I'll endorse this for confirmation, as this evidence is a bit circumstantial, and a sleeper check along with that can't hurt. --
Shirik (
Questions or Comments?)
13:55, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
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These two show many of the same editing patterns as previous socks of this blocked user including always adding the same few categories and changing the Kurdish flag to PNG format for no good reason. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 23:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note GulaKCK blocked and tag updated. I'm not going to block the IP, Barzan probably found a new one by now.
Elockid (
Talk)
20:18, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
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Here we go again. More flag fiddling. More treating Kurdistan as if it was a nation state. Similar editing style, with some variation. Also overwriting valid disambiguation pages with redirects to his favourite subjects as if the other items on the disambiguation simply don't matter. Similar interest in Turkish, Iraqi and Kurdish language TV stations. Has used socks with names like "SomethingLover" before.
Can we consider upping his block to a formal ban? That will make it clear that he is to be reverted on sight even when his edits look defensible, as a few of them sometimes do. This might be helpful as he is now making new articles like Tishk TV which it is not obvious how to deal with if they make some claim to notability. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 09:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tag updated. Autoblock already took care of the IP.
Elockid (
Talk)
13:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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Its That Man Again! Similar pattern to before. Pretending that Kurdish regions of Iraq are not in Iraq. Removing valid references, categories and content. Inserting POV. Similar style to before. Seems to have used a name like AxsomethingAx before (see blocked User:AxLoriAx). I know he is blocked not banned but his edits are always more bad than good so I have already reverted everything he did without looking at it in great detail. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 00:20, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tag updated.
Elockid (
Talk)
00:52, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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This seems to be our old friend again. His style is generally much more subtle now (with a few exceptions), so I am requesting a checkuser to confirm that it really is him. Even so, tell-tale signs remain: Adding category Yazidi to Kurdish articles that don't even mention the subject, removing mention of Iraq, removal of referenced content, and a pointless insistence on the PNG version of the Kurdish flag over the SVG version.
I am not reverting him completely this time as some of the edits are so minor as to be inoffensive, however I am worried that this might encourage him to keep up his POV editing at a low level. I would welcome advice on the best approach here.
Reasons for checkuser:
-- DanielRigal ( talk) 08:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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Clerk declined.
Looks like a duck to me. The more recent checks have also found no sleepers.
Elockid (
Talk)
20:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note DolmaiPhone blocked and tag updated. 71.17.73.97 autoblocked which is the same ISP and general area as BarzanPDK18. The other IP I'm not touching since it's stale. I've been looking at the IP ranges based on previous investigations and they look like there are lots of other people editing in the other ranges, so no rangeblock I'm afraid.
Elockid (
Talk)
20:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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Its that man again! Note obsession with Kurdish TV, blanking of content he dislikes and adding category Yazidi to Kurdish related articles that are not specifically about Yazidi religion or culture. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 01:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note They're all either socks of each other or of BarzanPDK18 (I bank on the latter). In either case, all registered accounts indefinitely blocked and tagged, 71.17.72.0/22 blocked 1 month. –
MuZemike
01:57, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Its him again. Not the use of "lori" and the number 18 in the user name, both of which have been seen in previous socks. Also, obsession with Kurdish TV stations and adding category Yazidi where it is not relevant.
Should we be looking to move to a formal ban on this guy?-- DanielRigal ( talk) 09:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Lori18Lori blocked and tag updated. IP address listed autoblocked.
Elockid (
Talk)
11:24, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Here he is again. Is everybody else getting as bored with this is I am?
His misleading/promotional/POV article got turned into a nice neutral, if rather boring, stub so he remade the POV article under a new title that was a spelling mistake of the old one. He also did his usual thing with the Kurdish flag. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 20:12, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tagged. I also protected some pages where there is heavy long-term sockpuppetry. Hopefully that will slow them down.
Elockid (
Talk)
21:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Its me again. Its him again. This time he is fiddling with articles about Kurdish Iraqi political groups as opposed to Kurdish TV stations but I think it is still him. He seems concerned to remove anything that acknowledges Iraq.
How many times do I have to report him to get the Barnstar of Repetitive Strain Injury? -- DanielRigal ( talk) 23:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tag updated. Made some more protections where it was just basically him/her for the past 3 months.
Elockid (
Talk)
00:45, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
He is back again. Not a huge amount of activity this time but enough to be sure it is him. There is a worrying trend too. Having had many of his favourite articles on Kurdish parties and TV stations protected, he is now moving on to vandalise articles about Turkish TV stations. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 22:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Note: I have added another: Laurier18. This is much more active and has made another new article and a ton of redirects. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 10:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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Clerk note: Moved evidence to correct section.
Elockid (
Talk)
12:04, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note KineEm16 blocked and tagged updated. Shirik already blocked Laurier18 and it's tagged. Some of the articles that 64.110.203.41 which is autoblocked by the way, has been edited by BarzanPDK18 for quite some time, dating back to last year. Many including the Turkish TV stations have been for the most part edited by him before. I made a couple of protections where there has been long-term sockpuppetry. Redirects made by KineEm16 have been deleted under G5.
Elockid (
Talk)
12:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
This smells a little foul to me. Ian.thomson ( talk) 03:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
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This vandalism made it bloody obvious enough. Blocked and tagged. – MuZemike 03:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
He is rolling back Abdullah Öcalan (a BLP) to the POV and unreferenced rewrite that he has submitted before under other socks. He is claiming some sort of official sanction for his behaviour, as he did with the Kurdish language TV station articles he vandalised in the past. Now he is trying to argue with ClueBot, like that will do him any good. DanielRigal ( talk) 08:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tag updated.
Elockid (
Talk)
12:18, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
It looks like BarzanPDK18 is back after a short break. I wonder if he went anywhere nice for his holidays. It is the usual stuff. Inserting Kurdish flags, removing valid stub tags, other tags and categories, trying to deemphasise Iraq and make Iraqi Kurdistan look more like an independent country. DanielRigal ( talk) 11:37, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tag updated.
Elockid (
Talk)
14:23, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
The usual. Pretending that Kurdistan is a country. Removing valid tags. Using the PNG version of the Kurdish flag. Using spam links to his favourite Kurdish TV stations in ref tags as fake references. Bolding stuff. Making POV or improperly referenced articles for Kurdish TV stations. The IP address is in Canada, as with the previous ones. DanielRigal ( talk) 09:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tagged. --
Gogo Dodo (
talk)
15:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Please list evidence below this line. Remember to sign at the end of your section with 4 tilde characters "~~~~"
After quite a long break (which might indicate that whatever blocking was used was effective) he is back. Note the fiddling with articles for Turkish and Kurdish Language TV stations and the changing of the Turkish and other flags for his preferred version of the Kurdish one. Also the username is quite similar in style to some of his previous socks. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 19:19, 3 January 2011 (UTC) DanielRigal ( talk) 19:19, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
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Quack quack, dudes. Ian.thomson ( talk) 16:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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The same stuff as every other time. Kurdish Nationalist POV, plugging his favourite Kurdish language TV stations, pretending that Kurdistan is a nation state, adding Kurdish flags. DanielRigal ( talk) 21:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tagged.
Elockid (
Talk)
22:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
This user is involved in POV editing in which they try to pretend that Kurdistan is already a nation state, as did BarzanPDK18 and their many sockpuppets. What makes me link this user to that sockpuppeteer account is that they show a peculiar desire to replace the SVG version of the Kurdish flag with a PNG one (e.g. [6]) as well as the same political agenda. Initially I thought this user was just somebody else with similar Kurdish nationalist sympathies who could do with advice on POV editing (which I tried to give) but the peculiarity of the flag changing makes me now think it is actually the same person, back after a long break but without any improvement in their understanding of NPOV. DanielRigal ( talk) 16:08, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
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Same treatment of Kurdistan as an independent region in all edits (examples here, here, and here, but present in almost all edits), same obsession with particular TV stations like Zagros TV. CU for sleepers. Ian.thomson ( talk) 22:06, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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[1] •
BarzanPDK18 on 24 March 2010
[2] •
142.165.218.56 on 26 March 2010
[3] •
BarzanPDK16 on 23 March 2010
[4] •
122.164.243.70 on 26 March 2010
ܥܝܪܐܩ (
talk)
18:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: case moved from
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/142.165.218.56 to /BarzanPDK18
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
10:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: duplicate case
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BarzanPDK20 moved here.
Elockid (
Talk)
02:15, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note Two obvious socks blocked, I blocked the /24 for 2 weeks.
Tim Song (
talk)
20:45, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
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See Defending yourself against claims.
Additional information needed
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
17:17, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm inclined to think that the filer of this SPI is sock of a blocked and/or banned user. When the filer filed this SPI, it was his/her second edit, not very typical of a new user. Also, ܥܝܪܐܩ the person who is being investigated in this SPI recently filed Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BarzanPDK18 which is currently active. There might be a relation, but that's just me. Elockid ( Talk) 21:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed to check the filer of this case against
Per Elockid, and personal observation. Thanks, Spitfire Tally-ho! 21:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Peshmarga&diff=352583128&oldid=352579649
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=PJAK&action=history
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Kurdistan_TV&action=history
ܥܝܪܐܩ (
talk)
19:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: Moved from
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RojNews18
Elockid (
Talk)
19:13, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed I can use a check here.
Tim Song (
talk)
16:39, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Confirmed; nasty nest:
Possible:
Annoyingly all over very large ranges with lots of good edits, so no reasonable range blocks possible. — Coren (talk) 00:31, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 22:14, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Same Saskatchewan-based Kurdish nationalist. ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 22:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed The IPs are clearly him/her as both geolocate to the Saskatchewan in the same city with the same ISP and the edits made are similar and are towards the same types of articles. However, Barzan does have an affinity to creating lots of socks while also editing logged out, we could use another sleeper check.
Elockid (
Talk)
12:53, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: moved from
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/207.47.163.102
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
22:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk declined This is a DUCK case which doesn't need CheckUser. What we have is someone using throwaway IPs. I've blocked the 207 IP for 24 hours, but he's going to keep hopping like this, then I don't think there's much else we can do here. –
MuZemike
02:34, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
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All are present on Abdullah Öcalan and on other articles relating to Kurdish areas and political parties in Iraq and Turkey. Common traits are treating Iraqi Kurdistan or Kurdistan as if they were nation states, replacing the actual countries in question. Bolding of names like Iraqi Kurdistan. Changing the categories to certain ones they approve of (e.g. Yazidi). Adding and readding an infobox to Abdullah Öcalan. Removing Arabic spelling and pronunciation and other references to ethnic groups other than Kurds (not all have done that). Also note similarity in name between KomaMelek and KomaPizza. Not sure that TVLoverboy is the ultimate puppetmaster but I have put this in his name as that seems to be the oldest user of the group. The sad thing is that there is clearly some wiki skill and some ability to do valid edits here but it is all compromised by a POV agenda and the willingness to engage in sockpuppetry. DanielRigal ( talk) 00:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: Moved from
WP:Sockpuppet investigations/TVLoverboy.
Auntie E. (
talk)
03:13, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed I see enough behavioral evidence to endorse, with a request for CU to check for a connection between the above accounts and
BarzanPDK18 (
talk ·
contribs ·
deleted contribs ·
page moves ·
block user ·
block log).
Auntie E. (
talk)
03:50, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: Moved from
WP:Sockpuppet investigations/McDLover16 per checkuser results --
Shirik (
Questions or Comments?)
06:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 03:35, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
User:KBCMJ blocked as admitted sockpuppet, abusive comments. -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 07:12, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Another account just appeared and was blocked: SubwayLover ( talk · contribs) -- Gogo Dodo ( talk) 22:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Here are some stats:
I find this astonishing. Can nothing be done to put a stop to this? -- DanielRigal ( talk) 23:03, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk note: Moved from
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Centralboy.
Elockid (
Talk)
03:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed Although I see it as a
WP:DUCK, I'm going to recommend CU for a sweep of sleepers, also going to put in a request for a possible hardblock of the IP.
Auntie E. (
talk)
05:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Possible that the following are related to each other:
-- Deskana (talk) 02:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note Centralboy blocked indef per
DUCK and tagged. IPhoneBoy567 has not edited yet, so I'm not blocking it at the moment.
Elockid (
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14:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 05:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note Blocked. Name is similar, and it
Restored an edit by a confirmed sock. ~ Amory (
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05:56, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 23:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Western_Asia&diff=prev&oldid=357154822
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Western_Asia&diff=prev&oldid=357107901
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive
ܥܝܪܐܩ (
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06:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked the account after he showed up on my talk page. Per
WP:DUCK. --
Gogo Dodo (
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22:11, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
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This user shows exactly the same pattern of editing as all the previous blocked socks of this blocked user on mostly the same articles: Kurdish Nationalist POV, insertion of Kurdish flags, bolding of certain Kurdish names (e.g "PKK"), changing categories, removing valid content and templates. Refer to edits by previous confirmed socks for more detail of the editing pattern. This one quacks unambiguously so I have already reverted all his edits. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 13:24, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tagged.
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13:29, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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This looks like yet another sockpuppet for BarzanPDK18. Note the preference for the PNG version of the Kurdish flag over the SVG one and the attempts to rewrite Iraqi Kurdistan greatly de-emphasising its existence as part of Iraq. Also removal of templates that link it to Iraq topics. With only three edits, this one doesn't quack as loudly as his average sock but my theory is that he is probing to see if he can get anywhere by being a bit less blatant in his POV editing campaign. Clearly he has no intention of stopping. I think we need to block his IP range before he does learn to fly under our radar and start getting his stuff in.
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Definitely him. I think Daniel is right that a rangeblock is the only way to stop this. ܥܝܪܐܩ ( talk) 19:46, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note Both accounts blocked per
WP:DUCK and self-declared. A CU with an IP block or a range block may be helpful in this case, if a range can be safely determined. --
Gogo Dodo (
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06:34, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed range blocking is probably not going to be possible here, as BarzanPDK18 tends to hop around on their range too much. However, endorsed for a sleeper check on the accounts listed above, which are pretty obviously related per
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3. Thanks
Spitfire
Tally-ho!
11:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
No sleepers found. I have placed a rather small range block. This block has the advantage of having no collateral damage, so I was able to place a hard block... but it may or may not contain BarzanPDK18. -- Deskana (talk) 02:15, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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This seems to be this blocked user and repeat puppetmaster coming back for another try after lying low for a while. Note the insistence on removing the perfectly uncontroversial note that Turkey is partially in Europe from Western Asia (which is a signature quirk he has), his preference for the PNG rather than SVG version of the Kurdish flag on Ey Reqîb (another signature quirk) and his general editing pattern in which he pretends that Kurdistan is already a country (distinct from the stance you would normally expect from a Kurdish Nationalist, i.e that is isn't yet but should become a country). He even uploaded a map of its supposed borders. His wiki skills are improving and his editing style is less obvious than it was. He has made some valid redirects, but his content remains highly POV. Rather than unpick the good and bad bits I have just reverted most of it.
Note 1: Checkuser requested partially for confirmation that his really is him and not another like-minded Kurdish Nationalist, and partially to check for sleepers as he created this account 6 days before first using it. If checkuser is inappropriate then please disregard and treat as a normal report.
Note 2: He seems to be honing his wiki skills somewhere. Perhaps somebody with the relevant language skills might want to check that he isn't putting similar POV material into any other language Wikipedias. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 13:45, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
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Clerk endorsed In addition to the submitted evidence, editing times are consistent with both the master and earlier confirmed socks. Additionally, editing history matches former socks. I note that edit summary patterns are identical, but common. Noting that I'll endorse this for confirmation, as this evidence is a bit circumstantial, and a sleeper check along with that can't hurt. --
Shirik (
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13:55, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
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These two show many of the same editing patterns as previous socks of this blocked user including always adding the same few categories and changing the Kurdish flag to PNG format for no good reason. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 23:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note GulaKCK blocked and tag updated. I'm not going to block the IP, Barzan probably found a new one by now.
Elockid (
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20:18, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
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Here we go again. More flag fiddling. More treating Kurdistan as if it was a nation state. Similar editing style, with some variation. Also overwriting valid disambiguation pages with redirects to his favourite subjects as if the other items on the disambiguation simply don't matter. Similar interest in Turkish, Iraqi and Kurdish language TV stations. Has used socks with names like "SomethingLover" before.
Can we consider upping his block to a formal ban? That will make it clear that he is to be reverted on sight even when his edits look defensible, as a few of them sometimes do. This might be helpful as he is now making new articles like Tishk TV which it is not obvious how to deal with if they make some claim to notability. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 09:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tag updated. Autoblock already took care of the IP.
Elockid (
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13:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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Its That Man Again! Similar pattern to before. Pretending that Kurdish regions of Iraq are not in Iraq. Removing valid references, categories and content. Inserting POV. Similar style to before. Seems to have used a name like AxsomethingAx before (see blocked User:AxLoriAx). I know he is blocked not banned but his edits are always more bad than good so I have already reverted everything he did without looking at it in great detail. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 00:20, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tag updated.
Elockid (
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00:52, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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This seems to be our old friend again. His style is generally much more subtle now (with a few exceptions), so I am requesting a checkuser to confirm that it really is him. Even so, tell-tale signs remain: Adding category Yazidi to Kurdish articles that don't even mention the subject, removing mention of Iraq, removal of referenced content, and a pointless insistence on the PNG version of the Kurdish flag over the SVG version.
I am not reverting him completely this time as some of the edits are so minor as to be inoffensive, however I am worried that this might encourage him to keep up his POV editing at a low level. I would welcome advice on the best approach here.
Reasons for checkuser:
-- DanielRigal ( talk) 08:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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Clerk declined.
Looks like a duck to me. The more recent checks have also found no sleepers.
Elockid (
Talk)
20:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note DolmaiPhone blocked and tag updated. 71.17.73.97 autoblocked which is the same ISP and general area as BarzanPDK18. The other IP I'm not touching since it's stale. I've been looking at the IP ranges based on previous investigations and they look like there are lots of other people editing in the other ranges, so no rangeblock I'm afraid.
Elockid (
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20:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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Its that man again! Note obsession with Kurdish TV, blanking of content he dislikes and adding category Yazidi to Kurdish related articles that are not specifically about Yazidi religion or culture. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 01:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note They're all either socks of each other or of BarzanPDK18 (I bank on the latter). In either case, all registered accounts indefinitely blocked and tagged, 71.17.72.0/22 blocked 1 month. –
MuZemike
01:57, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Its him again. Not the use of "lori" and the number 18 in the user name, both of which have been seen in previous socks. Also, obsession with Kurdish TV stations and adding category Yazidi where it is not relevant.
Should we be looking to move to a formal ban on this guy?-- DanielRigal ( talk) 09:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Lori18Lori blocked and tag updated. IP address listed autoblocked.
Elockid (
Talk)
11:24, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Here he is again. Is everybody else getting as bored with this is I am?
His misleading/promotional/POV article got turned into a nice neutral, if rather boring, stub so he remade the POV article under a new title that was a spelling mistake of the old one. He also did his usual thing with the Kurdish flag. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 20:12, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tagged. I also protected some pages where there is heavy long-term sockpuppetry. Hopefully that will slow them down.
Elockid (
Talk)
21:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Its me again. Its him again. This time he is fiddling with articles about Kurdish Iraqi political groups as opposed to Kurdish TV stations but I think it is still him. He seems concerned to remove anything that acknowledges Iraq.
How many times do I have to report him to get the Barnstar of Repetitive Strain Injury? -- DanielRigal ( talk) 23:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tag updated. Made some more protections where it was just basically him/her for the past 3 months.
Elockid (
Talk)
00:45, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
He is back again. Not a huge amount of activity this time but enough to be sure it is him. There is a worrying trend too. Having had many of his favourite articles on Kurdish parties and TV stations protected, he is now moving on to vandalise articles about Turkish TV stations. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 22:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Note: I have added another: Laurier18. This is much more active and has made another new article and a ton of redirects. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 10:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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Clerk note: Moved evidence to correct section.
Elockid (
Talk)
12:04, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Administrator note KineEm16 blocked and tagged updated. Shirik already blocked Laurier18 and it's tagged. Some of the articles that 64.110.203.41 which is autoblocked by the way, has been edited by BarzanPDK18 for quite some time, dating back to last year. Many including the Turkish TV stations have been for the most part edited by him before. I made a couple of protections where there has been long-term sockpuppetry. Redirects made by KineEm16 have been deleted under G5.
Elockid (
Talk)
12:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
This smells a little foul to me. Ian.thomson ( talk) 03:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
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This vandalism made it bloody obvious enough. Blocked and tagged. – MuZemike 03:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
He is rolling back Abdullah Öcalan (a BLP) to the POV and unreferenced rewrite that he has submitted before under other socks. He is claiming some sort of official sanction for his behaviour, as he did with the Kurdish language TV station articles he vandalised in the past. Now he is trying to argue with ClueBot, like that will do him any good. DanielRigal ( talk) 08:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tag updated.
Elockid (
Talk)
12:18, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
It looks like BarzanPDK18 is back after a short break. I wonder if he went anywhere nice for his holidays. It is the usual stuff. Inserting Kurdish flags, removing valid stub tags, other tags and categories, trying to deemphasise Iraq and make Iraqi Kurdistan look more like an independent country. DanielRigal ( talk) 11:37, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tag updated.
Elockid (
Talk)
14:23, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
The usual. Pretending that Kurdistan is a country. Removing valid tags. Using the PNG version of the Kurdish flag. Using spam links to his favourite Kurdish TV stations in ref tags as fake references. Bolding stuff. Making POV or improperly referenced articles for Kurdish TV stations. The IP address is in Canada, as with the previous ones. DanielRigal ( talk) 09:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tagged. --
Gogo Dodo (
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15:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
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After quite a long break (which might indicate that whatever blocking was used was effective) he is back. Note the fiddling with articles for Turkish and Kurdish Language TV stations and the changing of the Turkish and other flags for his preferred version of the Kurdish one. Also the username is quite similar in style to some of his previous socks. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 19:19, 3 January 2011 (UTC) DanielRigal ( talk) 19:19, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
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Quack quack, dudes. Ian.thomson ( talk) 16:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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The same stuff as every other time. Kurdish Nationalist POV, plugging his favourite Kurdish language TV stations, pretending that Kurdistan is a nation state, adding Kurdish flags. DanielRigal ( talk) 21:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked and tagged.
Elockid (
Talk)
22:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
This user is involved in POV editing in which they try to pretend that Kurdistan is already a nation state, as did BarzanPDK18 and their many sockpuppets. What makes me link this user to that sockpuppeteer account is that they show a peculiar desire to replace the SVG version of the Kurdish flag with a PNG one (e.g. [6]) as well as the same political agenda. Initially I thought this user was just somebody else with similar Kurdish nationalist sympathies who could do with advice on POV editing (which I tried to give) but the peculiarity of the flag changing makes me now think it is actually the same person, back after a long break but without any improvement in their understanding of NPOV. DanielRigal ( talk) 16:08, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
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Same treatment of Kurdistan as an independent region in all edits (examples here, here, and here, but present in almost all edits), same obsession with particular TV stations like Zagros TV. CU for sleepers. Ian.thomson ( talk) 22:06, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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