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Report date December 24 2009, 03:34 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppets
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- As soon as the user registered his "new account" named
青鬼よし (
talk ·
contribs) on Feb. 22, 2009
[2], I knew he is a reincarnation of the persistent sockpuppeter, Azukimonaka who had disrupted Korea or Japan related articles after his another set of socks around
Eichikiyama (
talk ·
contribs) were blocked on January, 2009. The user mainly use
ODN, and
OCN ISPs based in
Tokyo,
Japan, but also uses various ISPs (home.jp. so-net.jp) and
internet cafes to avoid scrutiny. The troll, an active member of
2channel's Korean bashing forum also operated his personal blog purely dedicated to harass me and to wikistalk my edit (the site name is my previous user name before
WP:RENAME. That can be confirmed via his own introduction of
his email address to his talk page. which matches
the blog owner's email address). If you don't see the cache, just tell me, I have a capture image of the blog. By exposing his email address, he recruited his possible meatpuppeters to send him email. Also when he harassed me with the blog, I contacted the site manger and got replies. His
massively multiplayer online role-playing game has been over two years, so I felt fatigue. That is why I did not report him even though his interest, edit summary, and writing style are too conspicuously all identical.
- His typical edit summaries include "the deleted edit (or concealment) is returned" (Azukimonaka
[3]
[4] vs 青鬼よし
[5]
[6]
[7]
[8]), "don't get too excited"
[9], "However, the edit is not being written (at all)"(Azukimonaka
[10]
[11]
[12]
[13] vs 青鬼よし
[14]), "See TalkPage" (he combined the "talk page" into one with the peculiar capital letter usage)
[15] etc. I also think he is surely operate another set of socks for his interest in
manga (Japanese cartoon) and
tokusatsu (Japanese films about action heroes in rubber costume) and
Japanese cuisine. Unlike the previous other socks, 青鬼よし only focuses on controversial history of ancient periods since I know what manga articles he would appear. Their interests especially focus on
Kofun period,
Nara period,
Baekje,
Balhae and the late 19th and early 20th century of Korea and Japan. I warned him that if his disruption and harassment against me are unbearable, I would not condone his disruption,
[16] This is the time to kick the persistent disruptive sock out. Enough is enough.
- One of the sockpuppeter's typical problems is that he can not properly read either English source, nor Chinese sources and habitually falsifies sources to make bogus allegations.
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Comparison between edits by the sockpuppeters
- Azukimonaka's misuse of primary sources written in Chinese with incorrect or falsified translation at the same time his massive blanking of properly referenced "academic and secondary sources"
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Some chronicle
- If you compare talk page discussions, you will notice that both Azukimonaka et al and 青鬼よし fond of using horizontal lines in the middle of discussions as well.
- I'm also considering to add his obvious meatpuppeter to the list given that some odd overlaps with the previous socks of Azukimonaka. Due to my limited time these days, I only added only very partial evidences, so if the above is not enough, just tell me. Thanks.--
Caspian blue
06:10, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
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- 2008-12-28T04:40:52
Eichikiyama (talk | contribs) (30,585 bytes) (The appended source is "
http://www.debito.org/tokaispeech062507.doc". Please open the source.)
[37]
- 2009-09-25T14:20:29
青鬼よし (talk | contribs) (37,485 bytes) (→Zainichi Koreans: "
http://www.debito.org/tokaispeech062507.doc" This document is a complaint to the foreigner discrimination of the hot spring in Otaru. Masayoshi are not related.)
[38]
See
Defending yourself against claims.
Hello. I am 青鬼よし.
- I am often using the Japanese-English translation application (Exite
[39]). Therefore, I think that my English conversation is mechanical.
- I am Japanese. And, I am majoring in the history of Japan. However, I am not interested in the history of Korea at all. I have not edited the history of Korea.
- About
Balhae, Is the history of Balhae a history of Korea or Is the history of Balhae a history of China? This problem is controverted between Korea and China. I opposed Korean user's putting only a "Korean history" on Balhae.
- About
Japan–Korea_disputes, I asked him for the discussion in the Talkpage.
[40] However, he keeps disregarding me. And, he was requesting the administrator to banish me.
[41] I was surprised at this surprise attack.
- About
Kofun Period of the Japanese history, Caspian blue and Objectiveye renewed the quotation of the source of information. I asked about the renewal of this source of information.
[42] However, he refused an answer. And, he was requesting the administrator to banish me.
[43]
- Caspian blue was said on the discussion page of the
Kofun Period (history of Japan). "
Objectiveye is a very trustworthy person." However, his edit history is very little.
[44]I do not understand the reason why Caspian blue trusts him. Objectiveye and Caspian blue the same persons? I do not know the method of requesting their investigations...
I am on vacation in the hot spring in
Gunma Prefecture until January 4. Perhaps, I do not access the Internet at the hotel. I was not able to do an enough rebuttal about this surprise attack.
PS.I am a woman. I am majoring in the historical science at the university in Tokyo. And, to find employment, I think that I part from Wikipedia slowly. Recently, I am participating in Wikipedia only once a week... --
青鬼よし (
talk)
11:44, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
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- So you're lying again and making things up. Please explain where and when I said "Objectiveyes is a very trustworthy person" at
Talk:Kofun_period#About_the_quotation_of_the_source as you insist. Your multiple lies can be seen
Talk:Korea under Japanese rule#Metropolitan Museum of Art,
Talk:Japan-Korea disputes and many others. I warned you not to disrupt Wikipedia last September since I've known you're the same person who operated the stalking site to harass me and who you were per your identical editing pattern and writing style. According to
WP:BAN, no banned users are allowed to edit Wikipedia. Please explain about your identical email address to the stalker's and the identical edit summaries. Moreover, there is only one person who appeared to delete the categories to
Balhae articles, exactly same editing patterns and same edit summaries. I also request this account's underlying IPs to be checked as well. Moreover, regarding your baseless accusation of sockpuppetry, this is also same to Azukimonaka; whenever his offspring has been accused of being sockpuppeter and the banned user, he has tried to make things up to avoid the sockpuppeter tag. Since you're not admitting your block-evading nor explaining about your stalking blog, I will add more "evidences" for your sake.--
Caspian blue
13:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
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CheckUser requests
- Checkuser request –
code letter: E (Community ban/sanction evasion )
- Current status –
Declined, the reason can be found below. Requested by
Caspian blue
03:34, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
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Clerk declined – All the involved registered accounts are Stale, which only leaves IPs remaining. That doesn't leave much for a CU to look at. –
MuZemike
07:33, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Conclusions
Administrator note I had to take into consideration the potential damages caused as well as the frequency of the IP ranges' edits (when I looked at all the contributions in those CIDR ranges). I have done the following:
- 211.3.112.0/20 and 43.244.133.167 have not edited in over a year. Nothing would be gained from blocking these.
- 211.131.0.0/16 very likely has some good-faith contributions from users outside these socks (i.e. many of the articles fit outside the MO of the blocked socks).
- 61.209.128.0/18 has been blocked 2 weeks. (There has been some good-faith contribs from uninvolved users, so I am reluctant from making the rangeblock any more than that for now.)
- 219.66.40.0/21 and 222.149.75.88 have been blocked for 1 month each. (Again, keeping them short for the same reason I just mentioned above.)
I don't think to much else here can be done without causing too much collateral damage as far as anon editing is concerned. –
MuZemike
21:21, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
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- 2009-12-28T21:18:14 MuZemike blocked
61.209.128.0/18 (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 2 weeks (Block evasion: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Azukimonaka)
- 2009-12-28T21:14:23 MuZemike blocked
222.149.75.88 (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 1 month (Block evasion: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Azukimonaka)
- 2009-12-28T21:14:02 MuZemike blocked
219.66.40.0/21 (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 1 month (Block evasion: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Azukimonaka)
- The main active account,
青鬼よし (
talk ·
contribs ·
page moves ·
current autoblocks ·
block log) is not blocked yet unlike the underlying ips. Please clarify this--
Caspian blue
21:34, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
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- I did not see that. I will have to take a look into that. –
MuZemike
21:37, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Blocked. Article range and edit summaries too closely match the previously blocked socks. –
MuZemike
17:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Thanks. On the other hand, given that Azukimonaka seems liked
Kamosuke (
talk ·
contribs ·
page moves ·
current autoblocks ·
block log)'s sock (
Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kamosuke) and
Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Azukimonaka), his block-evading
MMORPG seems endless. His gaming the system has lasted over 4 years (!). I'm sure he would operate another set of socks and appear again, so if Checkuder see his account, that would be great to reduce harm done by him. --
Caspian blue
21:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
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Report date January 6 2010, 03:54 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppets
Evidence submitted by
Jayron32
See
Defending yourself against claims.
Guys, seriously. Compare my own edit log with that of the IP address. I don't even see the edits that you think Azukimonaka has made in the IP address's log. And now that I think about it, that IP address has been used by my company for months now (that's why I can see edits *I* have made, while at the office and not logged in, in the log of the IP address.)
It seems like someone has been a bit ambitious in their search for "suspected sockpuppets". I read through this page, and it looks like just because I've been editing Debito's page, then I must fall into the "OMG HATE GAIJIN" category that azukimonaka is in.
Do you want me to post a photo of me running a traceroute from the work computer or something? Do you want me to write a 500 word essay in perfect English? What am I supposed to do, seriously?
Simon-in-sagamihara (
talk)
13:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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- Comment I added the IP in the last minute because while I gathered possible socks of his, I noticed the IP's edits at
Etiquette in Japan
[45] and
Ethnic issues in Japan
[46] and the strong interests in anything negative images of Japanese society and
Debito Arudou just like Azukimonaka (Azukimonaka deleted his sites many times from other articles). Previous Checkusers who looked into Azukimonaka's socks said that Azukimonaka has used various ISPs such as
ODN (his main ISP),
OCN and many others (from internet cafes, 3rd place beside his home) to avoid scrutiny and most of them are dynamic except some few static IPs (though checkusers rangeblocked a same IP range twice after scrutiny). Thatcher said "behavioral evidences" would be more effective to detect his socks since Azukimonaka knows how to game the system for years with socking. However, based on the English of the "currently blocked anon", I'm convinced that
User:Simon-in-sagamihara is not Azukimonaka. Azukimonaka's broken English is so severe that I can easily detect his typical grammatical errors and writing style whenever he creates socks. Though, he sometimes used "very advanced" English words or slang that he does not seem to even know the meaning exactly. (he said he was using a translation tool) So I think only the anon's IP's block can be lifted while the other rangeblocked IPs were correctly carried out. I think Azukimonaka definitely has more socks (see the above report), so Checkuser on his account could be a good idea.--
Caspian blue
04:43, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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CheckUser requests
- Checkuser request –
code letter: E (Community ban/sanction evasion )
- Current status –
Declined, the reason can be found below. Requested by
Jayron
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03:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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this edit about says it all. I am unfamiliar with the background of this case, but this is screaming at me as suspicious. Could a checkuser and/or SPI regular confirm if this is him or not? --
Jayron
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03:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Clerk note: I blocked the IP about a week ago as an IP sock of
User:Azukimonaka, as the types of articles edited closely enough matched the MO by Azukimonaka and other socks.
User:Caspian blue compiled a timeline of the socking (going back to 2006) at
Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Azukimonaka. I would say it's likely, just on behavioral evidence alone, that
User:Simon-in-sagamihara is Azukimonaka; if a CU wants to make a check, that may not be a bad idea. –
MuZemike
04:04, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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- Given the apparent difficulty of tracking this Azukimonaka character via CU, and the obvious connection between the IP and the Simon account, a checkuser isn't really going to help much in this case. I'm inclined to go with Caspian blue's sense on this, that the difference in language ability means Simon is not Azukimonaka. A ping to Thatcher might be of use, if he remembers dealing with this particular case or still has his notes.
Nathan
T
02:43, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
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Conclusions
Clerk note: Closing per Nathan and Caspian blue. No action taken. –
MuZemike
01:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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01 February 2023
Suspected sockpuppets
As did Azukimonaka and their various sockpuppets, CHR52 tendentiously edits various pages to remove Korean references and play up Japanese influence, see
[47] and
[48], as does 789XYG
[49]. 789XYG should probably be blocked outright for edits like
this one in any case (stating that Koreans are unsanitary). Azukimonaka has made similar edits to Bungeo-ppang and uses similarly stilted syntax.
[50]. Now, it is possible that the writing and opinions may be coincidental as they all seem to be Japanese speakers with a certain sentiment towards Koreans, but at least CHR52 and 789XYG are clearly the same user. Both randomly
accuse their opponents of being
racists and they have left nearly identical
talkpage messages on at least two
talkpages.
Mr.choppers |
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02:45, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
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