User Sliverug is a new account who has made few or no other edits outside the topic Angelique Rockas, and her Internationalist Theatre; see her/his global contributions. In both English-language WP and Greek-language WP user Sliverug follows the same behavioral pattern with user Kyrilo36, a confirmed puppet of Amfithea, revealed after I filed this case of editiwar last July. User Sliverug's contributions to the articles Angelique Rockas, Internationalist Theatre, and Ανζελίκ Ρόκας of Greek-language WP as well, have been focusing constantly on removing Original Research and COI tags from all three articles, thus fueling an edit war exactly the same way like the then new user Kyrilo36 (so far the last confirmed puppet created by user Amfithea) did.
But there is more evidence: IP 82.1.219.198. When Kyrilo36 was vandalising the Greek article on Rockas, she/he once forgot to sign in, and, when she/he made this comment in Greek-language WP, her/his IP (82.1.219.198) was revealed, as hard evidence -judging from the IP's global contributions, and esp. this in German-language WP- that behind Kyrilo36 was Amfithea. A similar mistake that exposed her/himself had been repeated by user Sliverug in Greek-language WP. First, Sliverug removed the tags from the Greek article on Rockas. Then, CubicStar (sysop @ Greek-language WP) had the tags put back in place, summarising that there is no reason to have them removed. After that, Sliverug reacted by emptying the article (commenting: deletion), but by mistake she/he left out the two tags on top; the very next minute appeared IP 82.1.219.198 out of the blue to "do the job" that Sliverug had left unfinished: deleting the tags on top (commenting: deletion, dealing with fools)! Chalk19 ( talk) 18:14, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
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It doesn't look like there's anything more to do here. Closing. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 19:52, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
See the edit warring complaint about Chlorissima's editing of the Angelique Rockas article. I have blocked Chlorissima one week for edit warring on the COI tags at Angelique Rockas. The edit summaries and talk comments are very reminiscent of the Amfithea socks blocked previously. User:Chalk19 who filed the AN3 gave a good summary of the background in his complaint there. He has also been following the related dispute on the Greek Wikipedia. User:Ajraddatz, a global sysop, has commented earlier in this SPI due to the cross-wiki abuse. All the socks want uploaded scans of primary paper documents to be admitted to the record to support the notability of Angelique Rockas. If the stream of new socks or meats continues it might justify a period of full or EC protection for Angelique Rockas and Internationalist Theatre, but that step is not needed just yet. If a checkuser were run, it might justify an indef block for Chlorissima. EdJohnston ( talk) 15:05, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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Additional evidence.
The way (the typing/writing) User:Chlorissima replied (see User talk:Chlorissima) after I wrote on her/his talk page a "Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion" is very similar to the way User:Angeliquerock writes in her (?) talk page at Commons, esp. the multiple signing; example:
compare:
Another stirking similarity is the pattern of using seperation lines between paragraphes/sections by typing consecutive hyphensis, in common with sockmaster's User Amfithea master puppet User Johanprof, and minor puppet Kyrilo36 (see also: Talk:Angelique Rockas and el:Συζήτηση:Ανζελίκ Ρόκας) (the Greek-language article on rockas talk page). Finally, please note my PS to the aforementioned edit warring complaint. —— Chalk19 ( talk) 15:50, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Another user in the "army" of puppets of sockmaster Amfithea, and SPAs who promote Angelique Rockas in several language editions of WP: User:Johanprof, User:Ortocarlo, User:Kyrilo36, User:Sliverug, User:Chlorissima, User:Boris369 (all blocked globally), and the not-to-forget (uninvestigated) case of user Angeliquerock at Commons. For the abovementioned puppets, please take a look at:
It's not only the global contributions of user Kotlenci that points to the dicection of another puppet. It's the same mistake that user Kotlenci, like user Kyrilo36 and user Sliverug did before, that is writing something as a registered user, and then caming back to continue but forgeting to sing in. It is the well known by now IP 82.1.219.198. When Kyrilo36 was vandalising the Greek article on Rockas, she/he once forgot to sign in, and, when she/he made this comment in Greek-language WP, her/his IP (82.1.219.198) was revealed, as hard evidence -judging from the IP's global contributions- that behind Kyrilo36 was sockmaster Amfithea. A similar mistake had been repeated by user Sliverug in Greek-language WP. First, Sliverug removed the tags from the Greek article on Rockas. Then, a sysop @ Greek-language WP) had the tags put back in place. After that, Sliverug reacted by emptying the article, but by mistake she/he left out the two tags on top; the very next minute appeared IP 82.1.219.198 to "do the job" that Sliverug had left unfinished: deleting the tags on top.
The same mistake has just happened about an hour before. User Kotlenci on 9 November 2017 at 18:49 (UTC) added an "update" to the talk page of the Angelique Rockas article, addressed to user Jmax and myself. Three minutes later, the well known IP 82.1.219.198 changed the signature of user Kotlenci to 82.1.219.198, and the time stamps from 18:49 to 18:52! QED. —— Chalk19 ( talk) 19:51, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
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Seems to be continuing contentious editing on Angelique Rockas and Internationalist Theatre. Suspect sock's first edits seem to demonstrate pre-existing experience with WP markup from the get-go [5] [6].
Editing style and behaviour seems close to User:Chlorissima (previously raised here at SPI, blocked before Datintl01's first edits):
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After Nescu23 made a couple of legal threats, I looked at their article activity and socking was clear.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
11:03, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
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See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
13:58, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
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This is the "new recruit" in Rockas Army of Sockes (for its history see: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Amfithea/Archive). Since the main targets of the Army of Sockes, articles Angelique Rockas and Internationalist Theatre, have been locked for users until August 3rd by Berean Hunter because of "Persistent sockpuppetry" [19] [20], the new sockpuppet has focused on two other articles of "Rockas interest": Griselda Gambaro, and The Camp (1967 play). With these contributions [21] user Xanu36 restored a highly promotional section in the Gambaro article about Rockas. About its reason in this article, as a duplicate of the same section in The Camp article (instead of a shorter piece on Rockas' production) [22], there was a discussion between myself and another user in the article's talk page. —— Chalk19 ( talk) 00:46, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
PS. Also the same pattern with the rest of the Army of Socks while writing to talk pages with lines of dashes, chaotic structure, and peculiar ways of signing [23]. —— Chalk19 ( talk) 01:02, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
PS2. (update to the above PS) Also here; for a comparison, not only of the pattern but of for the content as well, see this. —— Chalk19 ( talk) 11:04, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
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Same targets, Angelique Rockas and Internationalist Theatre. Adding same promotional crap and similar edit summaries (ie. great detail to each edit) CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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Technically indistinguishable to each other and to
Xanu36 from the archive:
Blocked and tagged.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
20:59, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
See [24]: spamming (many) user talk ages to canvas support for the Internationalist Theatre (up for AfD currently). Suggest that edit summaries from the master (e.g. " if the User bothered to open the British Library link they would see that Internationalist Theatre productions for which Ms Rockas is known are covered - and there is a separate Wikipedia entry fir this important company") and the the probable sock (" There is a main space article on Angelique Rockas this draft page of more than 2 yrs ago is redundant and should be deleted.") are rather similar in style. —— SerialNumber 54129 15:23, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
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FabriceCanel has
echoed the sock's
but is
Unrelated. Behavior is suggesting meatpuppetry.
Carambazust (
talk
+ ·
tag ·
contribs ·
deleted contribs ·
logs ·
filter log ·
block user ·
spi block ·
block log ·
CA ·
CheckUser(
log) ·
investigate ·
cuwiki) is Technically indistinguishable to Alizafar567 who is
Likely to the master. Indeffing these two.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
15:45, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Their edit to
Talk:Angelique Rockas is making the same request as the assumed sock / meat above: Example text
--07:01, 16 October 2018. Compare Alizafar567's
edit at the helpdesk, Why has Internationalist Theatre a main space Wikipedia article since 2 yrs ago been put on NOINDEX_ Category ?
--14:03, 17 October 2018.
——
SerialNumber
54129
15:48, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
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No worries. See above report.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
16:17, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Like all the other socks, this account's nigh-exclusive purpose is to add the Internationalist Theatre and Angelique Rockas to articles (and to tweak previous contributions of other accounts of this person). – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 21:26, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
22:36, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
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Confirmed
Blocked and tagged.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
22:36, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
10:39, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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Confirmed,
Blocked and tagged.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
10:39, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
16:59, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
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Confirmed
See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
15:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
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Confirmed
Blocked and tagged
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
15:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
They're baaaaack! TBH I haven't been tracking why the edits are in themselves disruptive, but this is obviously the Angelique Rocka sock again, same edits as always. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 21:13, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
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Confirmed
Blocked and tagged
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
04:06, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Behavioral. 94 is already blocked, but not listed here. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 00:46, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
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IP 82 previously blocked continues to be active in spamming the Internationalist Theatre to articles. The other two likewise are single-interest accounts devoted to developing Internationalist Theatre and Theatro Technis on Wikipedia, including by adding these theatres' productions to articles on famous plays with screenshots of archival reviews, as the banned user did. The articles' history reveals other IPs that are also this person, but I haven't filed any IP that hasn't been active in the last month. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 13:09, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
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User Sliverug is a new account who has made few or no other edits outside the topic Angelique Rockas, and her Internationalist Theatre; see her/his global contributions. In both English-language WP and Greek-language WP user Sliverug follows the same behavioral pattern with user Kyrilo36, a confirmed puppet of Amfithea, revealed after I filed this case of editiwar last July. User Sliverug's contributions to the articles Angelique Rockas, Internationalist Theatre, and Ανζελίκ Ρόκας of Greek-language WP as well, have been focusing constantly on removing Original Research and COI tags from all three articles, thus fueling an edit war exactly the same way like the then new user Kyrilo36 (so far the last confirmed puppet created by user Amfithea) did.
But there is more evidence: IP 82.1.219.198. When Kyrilo36 was vandalising the Greek article on Rockas, she/he once forgot to sign in, and, when she/he made this comment in Greek-language WP, her/his IP (82.1.219.198) was revealed, as hard evidence -judging from the IP's global contributions, and esp. this in German-language WP- that behind Kyrilo36 was Amfithea. A similar mistake that exposed her/himself had been repeated by user Sliverug in Greek-language WP. First, Sliverug removed the tags from the Greek article on Rockas. Then, CubicStar (sysop @ Greek-language WP) had the tags put back in place, summarising that there is no reason to have them removed. After that, Sliverug reacted by emptying the article (commenting: deletion), but by mistake she/he left out the two tags on top; the very next minute appeared IP 82.1.219.198 out of the blue to "do the job" that Sliverug had left unfinished: deleting the tags on top (commenting: deletion, dealing with fools)! Chalk19 ( talk) 18:14, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
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It doesn't look like there's anything more to do here. Closing. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 19:52, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
See the edit warring complaint about Chlorissima's editing of the Angelique Rockas article. I have blocked Chlorissima one week for edit warring on the COI tags at Angelique Rockas. The edit summaries and talk comments are very reminiscent of the Amfithea socks blocked previously. User:Chalk19 who filed the AN3 gave a good summary of the background in his complaint there. He has also been following the related dispute on the Greek Wikipedia. User:Ajraddatz, a global sysop, has commented earlier in this SPI due to the cross-wiki abuse. All the socks want uploaded scans of primary paper documents to be admitted to the record to support the notability of Angelique Rockas. If the stream of new socks or meats continues it might justify a period of full or EC protection for Angelique Rockas and Internationalist Theatre, but that step is not needed just yet. If a checkuser were run, it might justify an indef block for Chlorissima. EdJohnston ( talk) 15:05, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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Additional evidence.
The way (the typing/writing) User:Chlorissima replied (see User talk:Chlorissima) after I wrote on her/his talk page a "Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion" is very similar to the way User:Angeliquerock writes in her (?) talk page at Commons, esp. the multiple signing; example:
compare:
Another stirking similarity is the pattern of using seperation lines between paragraphes/sections by typing consecutive hyphensis, in common with sockmaster's User Amfithea master puppet User Johanprof, and minor puppet Kyrilo36 (see also: Talk:Angelique Rockas and el:Συζήτηση:Ανζελίκ Ρόκας) (the Greek-language article on rockas talk page). Finally, please note my PS to the aforementioned edit warring complaint. —— Chalk19 ( talk) 15:50, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Another user in the "army" of puppets of sockmaster Amfithea, and SPAs who promote Angelique Rockas in several language editions of WP: User:Johanprof, User:Ortocarlo, User:Kyrilo36, User:Sliverug, User:Chlorissima, User:Boris369 (all blocked globally), and the not-to-forget (uninvestigated) case of user Angeliquerock at Commons. For the abovementioned puppets, please take a look at:
It's not only the global contributions of user Kotlenci that points to the dicection of another puppet. It's the same mistake that user Kotlenci, like user Kyrilo36 and user Sliverug did before, that is writing something as a registered user, and then caming back to continue but forgeting to sing in. It is the well known by now IP 82.1.219.198. When Kyrilo36 was vandalising the Greek article on Rockas, she/he once forgot to sign in, and, when she/he made this comment in Greek-language WP, her/his IP (82.1.219.198) was revealed, as hard evidence -judging from the IP's global contributions- that behind Kyrilo36 was sockmaster Amfithea. A similar mistake had been repeated by user Sliverug in Greek-language WP. First, Sliverug removed the tags from the Greek article on Rockas. Then, a sysop @ Greek-language WP) had the tags put back in place. After that, Sliverug reacted by emptying the article, but by mistake she/he left out the two tags on top; the very next minute appeared IP 82.1.219.198 to "do the job" that Sliverug had left unfinished: deleting the tags on top.
The same mistake has just happened about an hour before. User Kotlenci on 9 November 2017 at 18:49 (UTC) added an "update" to the talk page of the Angelique Rockas article, addressed to user Jmax and myself. Three minutes later, the well known IP 82.1.219.198 changed the signature of user Kotlenci to 82.1.219.198, and the time stamps from 18:49 to 18:52! QED. —— Chalk19 ( talk) 19:51, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
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Seems to be continuing contentious editing on Angelique Rockas and Internationalist Theatre. Suspect sock's first edits seem to demonstrate pre-existing experience with WP markup from the get-go [5] [6].
Editing style and behaviour seems close to User:Chlorissima (previously raised here at SPI, blocked before Datintl01's first edits):
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After Nescu23 made a couple of legal threats, I looked at their article activity and socking was clear.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
11:03, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
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See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
13:58, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
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This is the "new recruit" in Rockas Army of Sockes (for its history see: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Amfithea/Archive). Since the main targets of the Army of Sockes, articles Angelique Rockas and Internationalist Theatre, have been locked for users until August 3rd by Berean Hunter because of "Persistent sockpuppetry" [19] [20], the new sockpuppet has focused on two other articles of "Rockas interest": Griselda Gambaro, and The Camp (1967 play). With these contributions [21] user Xanu36 restored a highly promotional section in the Gambaro article about Rockas. About its reason in this article, as a duplicate of the same section in The Camp article (instead of a shorter piece on Rockas' production) [22], there was a discussion between myself and another user in the article's talk page. —— Chalk19 ( talk) 00:46, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
PS. Also the same pattern with the rest of the Army of Socks while writing to talk pages with lines of dashes, chaotic structure, and peculiar ways of signing [23]. —— Chalk19 ( talk) 01:02, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
PS2. (update to the above PS) Also here; for a comparison, not only of the pattern but of for the content as well, see this. —— Chalk19 ( talk) 11:04, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
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Same targets, Angelique Rockas and Internationalist Theatre. Adding same promotional crap and similar edit summaries (ie. great detail to each edit) CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
20:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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Technically indistinguishable to each other and to
Xanu36 from the archive:
Blocked and tagged.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
20:59, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
See [24]: spamming (many) user talk ages to canvas support for the Internationalist Theatre (up for AfD currently). Suggest that edit summaries from the master (e.g. " if the User bothered to open the British Library link they would see that Internationalist Theatre productions for which Ms Rockas is known are covered - and there is a separate Wikipedia entry fir this important company") and the the probable sock (" There is a main space article on Angelique Rockas this draft page of more than 2 yrs ago is redundant and should be deleted.") are rather similar in style. —— SerialNumber 54129 15:23, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
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FabriceCanel has
echoed the sock's
but is
Unrelated. Behavior is suggesting meatpuppetry.
Carambazust (
talk
+ ·
tag ·
contribs ·
deleted contribs ·
logs ·
filter log ·
block user ·
spi block ·
block log ·
CA ·
CheckUser(
log) ·
investigate ·
cuwiki) is Technically indistinguishable to Alizafar567 who is
Likely to the master. Indeffing these two.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
15:45, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Their edit to
Talk:Angelique Rockas is making the same request as the assumed sock / meat above: Example text
--07:01, 16 October 2018. Compare Alizafar567's
edit at the helpdesk, Why has Internationalist Theatre a main space Wikipedia article since 2 yrs ago been put on NOINDEX_ Category ?
--14:03, 17 October 2018.
——
SerialNumber
54129
15:48, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
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No worries. See above report.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
16:17, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Like all the other socks, this account's nigh-exclusive purpose is to add the Internationalist Theatre and Angelique Rockas to articles (and to tweak previous contributions of other accounts of this person). – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 21:26, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
22:36, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
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Confirmed
Blocked and tagged.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
22:36, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
10:39, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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Confirmed,
Blocked and tagged.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
10:39, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
16:59, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
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Confirmed
See below.
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
15:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
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Confirmed
Blocked and tagged
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Berean Hunter
(talk)
15:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
They're baaaaack! TBH I haven't been tracking why the edits are in themselves disruptive, but this is obviously the Angelique Rocka sock again, same edits as always. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 21:13, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
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Confirmed
Blocked and tagged
—
Berean Hunter
(talk)
04:06, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Behavioral. 94 is already blocked, but not listed here. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 00:46, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
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IP 82 previously blocked continues to be active in spamming the Internationalist Theatre to articles. The other two likewise are single-interest accounts devoted to developing Internationalist Theatre and Theatro Technis on Wikipedia, including by adding these theatres' productions to articles on famous plays with screenshots of archival reviews, as the banned user did. The articles' history reveals other IPs that are also this person, but I haven't filed any IP that hasn't been active in the last month. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 13:09, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
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