Account's only edits are to !vote "keep" on two related AfDs, with a precocious knowledge of wikipedia markup &c. The tone of the comments (ie. complaining about discrimination, accusing me of being ignorant &c) is similar to that of Abhidevananda, the only other editor to !vote "keep". bobrayner ( talk) 11:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See
Defending yourself against claims.
Several very new users are finding their way to Sarkar-related AfDs and casting keep !votes.
Abhidevananda is the only most active established user also !voting keep on all of these.
Thanks.
Garamond Lethe
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c
03:03, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
The best diff I have tying the meatpuppets to Abhidevananda is
[26]. There are several ways to read the words "intervention", of course, and I'll let the closing admin decide which reading is most appropriate given the rest of the circumstances.
Garamond Lethe
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c
20:52, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
This is a continuing problem: User:Cornelius383 canvassed Abhidevananda, Goldenaster, Anta An, Soroboro, Knight of Infinity, and DezDeMonaaa to comment at another Sarkar-related article:
No editors who disagreed with Cornelius383 at the
Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar AfDs received a similar invitation.
Garamond Lethe
t
c
06:06, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
1. Several new editors have found their way to Sarkar-related AfD discussions, and all have uniformly !voted "keep". This pattern looks like off-wiki canvassing, but there's probably no way to find out who recruited whom. Some of the editors have gone on to make useful contributions in other topics. Recommendation: an informal topic ban on Sarkar-related articles and discussions for these five editors, perhaps until they get 1k edits under their belts. For these editors I don't think anything more will be needed than a note on their talk pages explaining WP:CANVASS and asking them to not give the appearance of impropriety.
Anta An | DezDeMonaaa | Knight of Infinity | Goldenaster | Soroboro | |
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Account Creation Date | 2/12/2013 | 11/5/2012 | 2/17/2013 | 2/24/2013 | 2/22/2013 |
Date of first Sarkar AfD edit | 2/13/2013 (first edit) | 1/9/2012 (first edit) | 2/20/2013 (first edit) | 2/25/2013 (6th edit) | 2/23/2013 (8th edit) |
Total edits | 22 | 42 | 65 | 36 | 43 |
Number of Sarkar-related edits | 16 | 38 | 5 | 4 | 7 |
Number of Sarkar AfDs edited | 11 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 3 |
On-wiki canvassing | [27] | [28] | [29] | [30] | [31] |
2. User:Cornelius383 has canvassed these editors on-wiki. Links are given above. His response has been IDHT. He has had canvassing explained to him before. Recommendation: User:Cornelius383 stopped edit-warring after being blocked briefly, and I expect he will stop canvassing after being blocked as well. I don't see any reason to extend the block beyond the time it takes him to satisfy an uninvolved admin that he understands WP:CANVASS and guarantees this behavior won't happen again.
3.
Abhidevananda does not appear to be involved in canvassing. Between the CU report and
User:Cornelius383 on-wiki canvassing while this SPI was ongoing, I now think it's far more likely that
Cornelius383 was responsible for the off-wiki canvassing. I offer my apologies for any distress or inconvenience I've caused to
Abhidevananda.
Garamond Lethe
t
c
19:41, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Abhidevananda | Anta An | Cornelius383 | DezDeMonaaa | Knight of Infinity | Goldenaster | Soroboro | Universal Life | |
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Current edit counts | 1386 | 22 | 2093 | 37 | 52 | 13 | 36 | 1215 |
A Guide to Human Conduct (2nd nomination) | Keep | Strong keep | Strong keep | Keep | Keep | Strong keep | ||
Namami Krsnasundaram | Keep | |||||||
To the Patriots | Keep | |||||||
Discourses on Tantra (Volumes 1 and 2) | Keep | keep | Strong Keep | |||||
Human Society (Parts 1 and 2) | Keep | Strong keep | Strong keep | Keep | ||||
Yoga Psychology | Keep | Strong keep | Strong keep | Strong keep | Strong keep | Keep | Keep | |
The Liberation of Intellect: Neohumanism | Keep | Keep | Strong Keep | Keep | Strong Keep | |||
Yogic Treatments and Natural Remedies (2nd nomination) | Keep | Keep | Strong Keep | Keep | Strong keep | Strong Keep | Keep | |
Prabhat Samgiita | Keep | Keep and Speedy Keep | Keep | Keep | Strong Keep and Speedy Keep | |||
Neohumanism in a Nutshell | Keep | Keep | Keep | |||||
Ananda Marga Caryacarya (Parts 1, 2, and 3) | Keep | Keep | Keep | Keep |
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I never claimed any SPI for those users but I have my suspicions. I expressed, however my strong complaints in some of the AfD's proposed by them. They published above a table on "Keeps" but I suggest below another interesting table on "Deletions and AfDs" (made/launched by those users). I hope that an admin will thake care of my complaints:
Total ranking on 21 articles
I emphasize that the activity of some of these users seems strongly focused in trying, with persistence, to remove everything that is connected with the Indian philosopher Shrii Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar. For pursuing this aim in a scientific way they even create this page containing all the links related with this author. We have clear evidence of the follow-up in the revision history here of the page and from some of their thalks. Are these behaviors adhering to the rules of WP?-- Cornelius383 ( talk) 20:23, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
I could go on and on but I will stop to make a courtesy to the readers. Thanks-- Cornelius383 ( talk) 22:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
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Account's only edits are to !vote "keep" on two related AfDs, with a precocious knowledge of wikipedia markup &c. The tone of the comments (ie. complaining about discrimination, accusing me of being ignorant &c) is similar to that of Abhidevananda, the only other editor to !vote "keep". bobrayner ( talk) 11:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See
Defending yourself against claims.
Several very new users are finding their way to Sarkar-related AfDs and casting keep !votes.
Abhidevananda is the only most active established user also !voting keep on all of these.
Thanks.
Garamond Lethe
t
c
03:03, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
The best diff I have tying the meatpuppets to Abhidevananda is
[26]. There are several ways to read the words "intervention", of course, and I'll let the closing admin decide which reading is most appropriate given the rest of the circumstances.
Garamond Lethe
t
c
20:52, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
This is a continuing problem: User:Cornelius383 canvassed Abhidevananda, Goldenaster, Anta An, Soroboro, Knight of Infinity, and DezDeMonaaa to comment at another Sarkar-related article:
No editors who disagreed with Cornelius383 at the
Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar AfDs received a similar invitation.
Garamond Lethe
t
c
06:06, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
1. Several new editors have found their way to Sarkar-related AfD discussions, and all have uniformly !voted "keep". This pattern looks like off-wiki canvassing, but there's probably no way to find out who recruited whom. Some of the editors have gone on to make useful contributions in other topics. Recommendation: an informal topic ban on Sarkar-related articles and discussions for these five editors, perhaps until they get 1k edits under their belts. For these editors I don't think anything more will be needed than a note on their talk pages explaining WP:CANVASS and asking them to not give the appearance of impropriety.
Anta An | DezDeMonaaa | Knight of Infinity | Goldenaster | Soroboro | |
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Account Creation Date | 2/12/2013 | 11/5/2012 | 2/17/2013 | 2/24/2013 | 2/22/2013 |
Date of first Sarkar AfD edit | 2/13/2013 (first edit) | 1/9/2012 (first edit) | 2/20/2013 (first edit) | 2/25/2013 (6th edit) | 2/23/2013 (8th edit) |
Total edits | 22 | 42 | 65 | 36 | 43 |
Number of Sarkar-related edits | 16 | 38 | 5 | 4 | 7 |
Number of Sarkar AfDs edited | 11 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 3 |
On-wiki canvassing | [27] | [28] | [29] | [30] | [31] |
2. User:Cornelius383 has canvassed these editors on-wiki. Links are given above. His response has been IDHT. He has had canvassing explained to him before. Recommendation: User:Cornelius383 stopped edit-warring after being blocked briefly, and I expect he will stop canvassing after being blocked as well. I don't see any reason to extend the block beyond the time it takes him to satisfy an uninvolved admin that he understands WP:CANVASS and guarantees this behavior won't happen again.
3.
Abhidevananda does not appear to be involved in canvassing. Between the CU report and
User:Cornelius383 on-wiki canvassing while this SPI was ongoing, I now think it's far more likely that
Cornelius383 was responsible for the off-wiki canvassing. I offer my apologies for any distress or inconvenience I've caused to
Abhidevananda.
Garamond Lethe
t
c
19:41, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Abhidevananda | Anta An | Cornelius383 | DezDeMonaaa | Knight of Infinity | Goldenaster | Soroboro | Universal Life | |
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Current edit counts | 1386 | 22 | 2093 | 37 | 52 | 13 | 36 | 1215 |
A Guide to Human Conduct (2nd nomination) | Keep | Strong keep | Strong keep | Keep | Keep | Strong keep | ||
Namami Krsnasundaram | Keep | |||||||
To the Patriots | Keep | |||||||
Discourses on Tantra (Volumes 1 and 2) | Keep | keep | Strong Keep | |||||
Human Society (Parts 1 and 2) | Keep | Strong keep | Strong keep | Keep | ||||
Yoga Psychology | Keep | Strong keep | Strong keep | Strong keep | Strong keep | Keep | Keep | |
The Liberation of Intellect: Neohumanism | Keep | Keep | Strong Keep | Keep | Strong Keep | |||
Yogic Treatments and Natural Remedies (2nd nomination) | Keep | Keep | Strong Keep | Keep | Strong keep | Strong Keep | Keep | |
Prabhat Samgiita | Keep | Keep and Speedy Keep | Keep | Keep | Strong Keep and Speedy Keep | |||
Neohumanism in a Nutshell | Keep | Keep | Keep | |||||
Ananda Marga Caryacarya (Parts 1, 2, and 3) | Keep | Keep | Keep | Keep |
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I never claimed any SPI for those users but I have my suspicions. I expressed, however my strong complaints in some of the AfD's proposed by them. They published above a table on "Keeps" but I suggest below another interesting table on "Deletions and AfDs" (made/launched by those users). I hope that an admin will thake care of my complaints:
Total ranking on 21 articles
I emphasize that the activity of some of these users seems strongly focused in trying, with persistence, to remove everything that is connected with the Indian philosopher Shrii Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar. For pursuing this aim in a scientific way they even create this page containing all the links related with this author. We have clear evidence of the follow-up in the revision history here of the page and from some of their thalks. Are these behaviors adhering to the rules of WP?-- Cornelius383 ( talk) 20:23, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
I could go on and on but I will stop to make a courtesy to the readers. Thanks-- Cornelius383 ( talk) 22:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
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