Ömer Nasuhi Bilmen
- Ömer Nasuhi Bilmen ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
18 July 2020
Suspected sockpuppets
- Shubuhat ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Both are repeatedly removing references to the Armenian Genocide, or describing it as a hoax, in Turkey-related articles. They make identical edits. Earlier multiple IPs did the same but they are stale. Ömer Nasuhi Bilmen was created on 4-8-20 and has 46 edits. Shubuhat was created on 5-14-20 and has 67 edits. Examples in articles:
- Eastern Anatolia Region: Omer [1] [2] [3], followed by Shubuhat [4]
- Van, Turkey: Shubuhat [5] [6], followed by Omer [7] [8], followed by Shubuhat [9] MelanieN ( talk) 03:05, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. He points here out, the article has sockpuppets [ [10]] and [ [11]] ironic and hypocrite Shadow4dark ( talk) 13:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- I found the maaster. In People's Protection Units was edited by socks of User:Drankcarat/ User:RandomAccount1235423 and the socks, User:MehmetFarukSahin User:OnurKocaman and User:Ömer Nasuhi Bilmen Shadow4dark ( talk) 17:14, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- @ Ivanvector: They edit the only same paragraph in "Recruitment of minors" and nothing else[ [12]] [ [13]] And the last known sock i know is User:MilesSmilesNow Shadow4dark ( talk) 17:36, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
CheckUser requested and endorsed by clerk Both of them created near-identical drafts as their first edits, compare
Special:Permalink/949771392 by Omer Nasuhi Bilmen (not an autobio, by the way, given that the subject is 50 years dead) and the later version
Special:Permalink/952843069 with
Special:Permalink/956571470 by Shubuhat. They also both have very similar POVs, as Melanie pointed out ("what Armenian genocide?") and both have a strong interest in Muslim topics and Turkey. They also both have the shared quirk of ending their edit summaries with a period. There's more than enough there to block on behavior, I'd even say 
Looks like a duck to me. I'm requesting checkuser based on my gut. they both just seem a little too comfortable with Wikipedia syntax and the like, I suspect there may be another master in play.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 03:52, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- For reference, I think the IPs Melanie is referring to are:
- (based on the history of 12 (number), I'm dead certain from a behavioral perspective that they're at least one of these two editors)
- (reverts in Eastern Anatolia Region)
- Both are indeed stale, but noting here in case it helps anyone. The two geolocate to Turkey (what a shock), apparently a cell provider, and both are part of Special:Contributions/176.33.48.0/21. GeneralNotability ( talk) 03:57, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- For reference, I think the IPs Melanie is referring to are:
- Just to add there is another IP with the same behave.
- (Van, Turkey reverts, same edit summary). Mr.User200 ( talk) 13:18, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- The two accounts are
Confirmed, and they are also editing logged out extensively. I'm pretty sure this is an LTA but I can't remember which one.
Ivanvector (
Talk/
Edits) 14:10, 18 July 2020 (UTC) - Since this might be an LTA,
Blocked without tags.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 14:11, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- @ Shadow4dark: I did see those accounts but when I checked they didn't appear related so I didn't mention them. I haven't re-checked and so I have no finding to report, but they should be evaluated on behaviour. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 17:23, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Ömer Nasuhi Bilmen
- Ömer Nasuhi Bilmen ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
18 July 2020
Suspected sockpuppets
- Shubuhat ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
Both are repeatedly removing references to the Armenian Genocide, or describing it as a hoax, in Turkey-related articles. They make identical edits. Earlier multiple IPs did the same but they are stale. Ömer Nasuhi Bilmen was created on 4-8-20 and has 46 edits. Shubuhat was created on 5-14-20 and has 67 edits. Examples in articles:
- Eastern Anatolia Region: Omer [1] [2] [3], followed by Shubuhat [4]
- Van, Turkey: Shubuhat [5] [6], followed by Omer [7] [8], followed by Shubuhat [9] MelanieN ( talk) 03:05, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. He points here out, the article has sockpuppets [ [10]] and [ [11]] ironic and hypocrite Shadow4dark ( talk) 13:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- I found the maaster. In People's Protection Units was edited by socks of User:Drankcarat/ User:RandomAccount1235423 and the socks, User:MehmetFarukSahin User:OnurKocaman and User:Ömer Nasuhi Bilmen Shadow4dark ( talk) 17:14, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- @ Ivanvector: They edit the only same paragraph in "Recruitment of minors" and nothing else[ [12]] [ [13]] And the last known sock i know is User:MilesSmilesNow Shadow4dark ( talk) 17:36, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- CheckUser requested and endorsed by clerk Both of them created near-identical drafts as their first edits, compare
Special:Permalink/949771392 by Omer Nasuhi Bilmen (not an autobio, by the way, given that the subject is 50 years dead) and the later version
Special:Permalink/952843069 with
Special:Permalink/956571470 by Shubuhat. They also both have very similar POVs, as Melanie pointed out ("what Armenian genocide?") and both have a strong interest in Muslim topics and Turkey. They also both have the shared quirk of ending their edit summaries with a period. There's more than enough there to block on behavior, I'd even say
Looks like a duck to me. I'm requesting checkuser based on my gut. they both just seem a little too comfortable with Wikipedia syntax and the like, I suspect there may be another master in play.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 03:52, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- For reference, I think the IPs Melanie is referring to are:
- (based on the history of 12 (number), I'm dead certain from a behavioral perspective that they're at least one of these two editors)
- (reverts in Eastern Anatolia Region)
- Both are indeed stale, but noting here in case it helps anyone. The two geolocate to Turkey (what a shock), apparently a cell provider, and both are part of Special:Contributions/176.33.48.0/21. GeneralNotability ( talk) 03:57, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- For reference, I think the IPs Melanie is referring to are:
- Just to add there is another IP with the same behave.
- (Van, Turkey reverts, same edit summary). Mr.User200 ( talk) 13:18, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- The two accounts are Confirmed, and they are also editing logged out extensively. I'm pretty sure this is an LTA but I can't remember which one.
Ivanvector (
Talk/
Edits) 14:10, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Since this might be an LTA,
Blocked without tags.
GeneralNotability (
talk) 14:11, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- @ Shadow4dark: I did see those accounts but when I checked they didn't appear related so I didn't mention them. I haven't re-checked and so I have no finding to report, but they should be evaluated on behaviour. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 17:23, 19 July 2020 (UTC)