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$antander

$antander ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log· investigate · cuwiki)
Report date February 23 2009, 09:26 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppets


Evidence submitted by Mk32 ( talk)


Note: I originally posted this at Wikipedia_talk:Tambayan_Philippines#AlvarezQz_and_$antander's_edits_to_"Philippines" I transferred the contents here, with some revisions.

Hello. I would like to get some opinion on what to do with the Philippines article. For the past year, since October 2008, a user named $antander had been editing the article on a daily basis. The edits are apparantly good-faith, but the user continually reverts any other contribution by other editors, which i think is a violation of WP:OWN, WP:EDITWAR, and WP:3RR. $antander usually put an edit summary: reverted back to last correct version, which is his/her version. $antander disappeared around January 2009, but in February, user AlvarezQz became active, displaying the same kind of behavior, and like $antander, reverts any edit not done by him/her. Again this could be an issue concerning WP:OWN, WP:EDITWAR, and WP:3RR. Both editors had done so on a daily basis, usually giving out any one of the following edit summaries:

  • Corrected information
  • revertback to last correct version
  • corrected article
  • Undid revision and reverted back to last correct version

The "correct version" being his/her version. Both editors used these summaries. Anything little detail changed, including the simple italicization of the name Republika ng Pilipinas (which I recently put in according to WP:MOSTEXT), is reverted.

Curiously, AlvarezQz on more than one occasion gave out this edit summary:

  • Removed Nuetral Point of View (NPOV) and corrected article

$antander later reappeared on the Philippines article and gave out this summary:

  • Corrected introduction and removing Nuetral Point of View (NPOV)

(Note the same misspelling of neutral ("nuetral") on both summaries, and how the said users want to "Remove NPOV" - which I assume to mean "Remove POV")

This could also possibly be a case of sock puppetry, or it could just be a coincidence. Both editors display the same kind of editing habits, and are advocating for a nearly identical/identical version of the Philippines page.

The fact the both AlvarezQz and $antander wanted to "Remove NPOV" could also indicate that they are the same person. However, I do not want to wrongfully accuse anyone, so that's why I put the matter up here for discussion. (BTW, Both $antander and AlverezQz have already been previously warned about edit warring by other users, though not about their edits on the Philippines article.)

Some pages to check out:

Issue recap:

I need suggestions on what should be done. I'm at a bit of a loss on what to do. I want to remain civil and do not want to get into an edit war with the users, or wrongfully accuse them. Thank you for your help! Mk32 ( talk) 06:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC) reply

EDIT (added roughly 3 hours later at original talk page at WP:TAMBAY):
New users User:DantePh and User:HZYrd have recently popped out, and providing the same kind of edits and edit summaries that AlvarezQz and $antander have been providing. Seems now that the since the accounts of "AlvarezQz" and "$antander" have been warned, it could be that the user decided to shift to an account that no one has warned yet.

Again pops out the line Removing "Nuetral" Point of View in their edit summaries, same as "AlvarezQz" and "$antander".

Mk32 ( talk) 09:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC) reply

They all have the same editing habits, editing the Philippines article, and all other Philippine-related articles, while rejecting any other editors' work in the name of "correcting the article".


Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


Comments by other users


Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
  •  Clerk note: suspects notified of case. Mayalld ( talk) 08:24, 11 March 2009 (UTC) reply
    •  Clerk note: Well, one of the alleged socks got a bit shirty with me, but none of them seem to want to respond to the case!
Conclusions

The following accounts are blocked indef:

Master account is blocked for 1 week with a strong warning that continued use of socks will result in an indef block. —— nix eagle email me 17:21, 14 March 2009 (UTC) reply
This case has been marked as closed. It has been archived automatically.



From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
$antander ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log· investigate · cuwiki)

$antander

$antander ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log· investigate · cuwiki)
Report date February 23 2009, 09:26 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppets


Evidence submitted by Mk32 ( talk)


Note: I originally posted this at Wikipedia_talk:Tambayan_Philippines#AlvarezQz_and_$antander's_edits_to_"Philippines" I transferred the contents here, with some revisions.

Hello. I would like to get some opinion on what to do with the Philippines article. For the past year, since October 2008, a user named $antander had been editing the article on a daily basis. The edits are apparantly good-faith, but the user continually reverts any other contribution by other editors, which i think is a violation of WP:OWN, WP:EDITWAR, and WP:3RR. $antander usually put an edit summary: reverted back to last correct version, which is his/her version. $antander disappeared around January 2009, but in February, user AlvarezQz became active, displaying the same kind of behavior, and like $antander, reverts any edit not done by him/her. Again this could be an issue concerning WP:OWN, WP:EDITWAR, and WP:3RR. Both editors had done so on a daily basis, usually giving out any one of the following edit summaries:

  • Corrected information
  • revertback to last correct version
  • corrected article
  • Undid revision and reverted back to last correct version

The "correct version" being his/her version. Both editors used these summaries. Anything little detail changed, including the simple italicization of the name Republika ng Pilipinas (which I recently put in according to WP:MOSTEXT), is reverted.

Curiously, AlvarezQz on more than one occasion gave out this edit summary:

  • Removed Nuetral Point of View (NPOV) and corrected article

$antander later reappeared on the Philippines article and gave out this summary:

  • Corrected introduction and removing Nuetral Point of View (NPOV)

(Note the same misspelling of neutral ("nuetral") on both summaries, and how the said users want to "Remove NPOV" - which I assume to mean "Remove POV")

This could also possibly be a case of sock puppetry, or it could just be a coincidence. Both editors display the same kind of editing habits, and are advocating for a nearly identical/identical version of the Philippines page.

The fact the both AlvarezQz and $antander wanted to "Remove NPOV" could also indicate that they are the same person. However, I do not want to wrongfully accuse anyone, so that's why I put the matter up here for discussion. (BTW, Both $antander and AlverezQz have already been previously warned about edit warring by other users, though not about their edits on the Philippines article.)

Some pages to check out:

Issue recap:

I need suggestions on what should be done. I'm at a bit of a loss on what to do. I want to remain civil and do not want to get into an edit war with the users, or wrongfully accuse them. Thank you for your help! Mk32 ( talk) 06:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC) reply

EDIT (added roughly 3 hours later at original talk page at WP:TAMBAY):
New users User:DantePh and User:HZYrd have recently popped out, and providing the same kind of edits and edit summaries that AlvarezQz and $antander have been providing. Seems now that the since the accounts of "AlvarezQz" and "$antander" have been warned, it could be that the user decided to shift to an account that no one has warned yet.

Again pops out the line Removing "Nuetral" Point of View in their edit summaries, same as "AlvarezQz" and "$antander".

Mk32 ( talk) 09:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC) reply

They all have the same editing habits, editing the Philippines article, and all other Philippine-related articles, while rejecting any other editors' work in the name of "correcting the article".


Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


Comments by other users


Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
  •  Clerk note: suspects notified of case. Mayalld ( talk) 08:24, 11 March 2009 (UTC) reply
    •  Clerk note: Well, one of the alleged socks got a bit shirty with me, but none of them seem to want to respond to the case!
Conclusions

The following accounts are blocked indef:

Master account is blocked for 1 week with a strong warning that continued use of socks will result in an indef block. —— nix eagle email me 17:21, 14 March 2009 (UTC) reply
This case has been marked as closed. It has been archived automatically.




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