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Well his misconduct is really quite simple...

  1. Constantly puts in unsourced info (leading to a case of edit wars).
  2. Keeps reverting other people's edits and puts back unsourced statements when it has been deleted (won't even leave a {{ citation needed}} template).
  3. Starts unneccerasry and poorly written articles.
  4. Uploads images with false copyright status.

Is completely destroying the G-Unit, The Black Wall Street Records, and The Game articles with his constant edits, reverts, image changes, etc. To a way he thinks it should be done. -- Ted87 16:24, 30 May 2006 (UTC) reply

Add inappropriate pictures also to articles as well as re establishing the articles even after disputes and resolution. Examples:

  1. Edit war examples include: MostWanted05 history
  2. The current picture add ins include:
File:Lifebws.JPG
File:Comptnife.JPG
File:Moneyover.JPG

.

File:Yaboy.JPG
File:THEGAME.JPG
File:Gamechain.JPG
File:Njdbwse.JPG
File:Hellrell.JPG
File:Gamec.JPG
File:Yaboy123.JPG
  1. The user put on spamming links as: Lil Dumu (use at your own risk)

The Black Wall Street Forum use at your own risk

  1. This user uses the IP numbers (Either the user is from the United States, Germany or the United Kingdom): User:Bwsadmin, user:86.136.5.114, user:86.133.126.15, user:86.140.15.117,

user:86.136.1.176, user:86.133.123.192, user:86.133.126.35, user:86.134.212.194, user:86.134.211.86, user:86.141.165.239, user:86.133.124.142, user:86.133.124.142, user:86.134.208.73, user:86.134.215.226, user:86.143.79.209, user:86.143.79.120, user:86.141.165.245, user:86.134.212.222, user:86.133.126.15, user:217.42.183.68, user:86.134.212.161, and User:86.134.215.218.


Each of these IP number were left with some responses from some of the users! Here's an example: User talk:MostWanted05, and Lil' Damu debate.

  1. Blantantly ignore warnings, reverts articles, and also re established already debated issues as here below: One example, Life (Black Wallstreet artist), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Young Life (rapper). Then add threatening warning to those who disagree. He took information from The Game's page (a high vandalism article) and use it to threaten myself and others: [1]
  • Poor grammar and inappropriate pictures as is the Young Life or The Game's pictures with the middle finger! (See above).

Can't prove that these sources are true. Debate with this person over the rumored signing of Shyne, G-Unit and The Game articles in the past. Asked for a compromise but no response and threats as is with History section of The Articles here.

This is some of the stuff MostWanted05 does. LILVOKA 31 May 2006 13:32 (UTC)

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Evidence of disputed behavior

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  • http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Game_%28rapper%29&diff=57160519&oldid=57133466 - I made about 29 edits to The Game article. I added a ton of relevent info, sourced it, sourced old info that was on it and proof read the whole article. He reverted it in one edit, claiming I was deleting big chunks of info (despite the fact I was doing the opposite) even though that is excatly what he just did by reverting my (and a couple other people's) edits. I left a message on his talk page to ask him why he did this an his rationale behind it, but I have yet to recieve a respons -- Ted87 19:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • MostWanted05 is causing vandalism (as a form of retaliation for the deletion of the Young Life and Lil Dumu articles) and is disrupting articles to make a point at addressing his distaste for other users who dispute his uploads and articles writings. He placed a Delete (category for Speedy Deletion) on articles Hot Rod and Spider Loc. Knowing that these articles were used by many other users (despite needing factual cleanup), MostWanted05 has step over the line by allowing this behavior. LILVOKA 13:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • A comment left by MostWanted05 in the previous year:

-HALLMONITOR! IF THE CHANGING OF THIS PAGE CONSITS, I.E THE PLACING OF THE PICTURE OF THE GAME, WHICH I HAVE STATED MANY TIMES BEFORE IS AGAINST "THE GAME'S" "THE BLACK WALLSTREET" COPYRIGHT AGREEMENT. IF THIS CONTINUES LEGAL ADVICE / ACTION WILL BE SOUGHT ON "THE BLACK WALLSTREET" BEHALF. PLEASE ONLY USE THE MIXTAPE COVER, OR ANY ALBUM COVER. BIG FASE 100 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.133.123.192 ( talkcontribs) 09:47, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

YOU DO NOT OWN THIS PAGE THEREFORE, YOU "DO NOT" HAVE THE RIGHT OT EDIT PEOPLES POSTS AND INFORMATION THAT ARE CORRECT AND ARE NEEDED IN THIS TOPIC. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DELETE CORRECT POSTS, THIS IS CLASSED AS VANDALISM! IF THIS PAGE CARRY'S ON GOING BACK TO "YOUR" PAGE AND NOT THE PEOPLES, THEN NOT ONLY WILL I INFORM AN ADMIN, BUT THE GAME HIMSELF, TO SOUGHT THIS OUT!

THERES NO SUCH THING AS G-UNIT THE GROUP - PLEASE GO TO INTERSCOPE.COM AND SEE WHO IS SIGNED TO G-UNIT - THERE IS NO G-UNIT GROUP

G-Unit Records Roster If someone would please take the time to investigate this:- http://www.interscope.com/artists/. All artists of g-unit are solely signed to g-unit and interscope the only member of aftermath from g-unit is 50 cent.

PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE EDITING G-UNIT ARE SIGNED TO INTERSCOPE!

G UNIT ARE NOT ON AFTERMATH! IF THIS IS CHANGED AGAIN- HALLMONITOR WILL BE NOTIFIED

G-UNIT IS NOT A BRANCH OF AFTERMATH- CONTINUE TO VANDALISE THIS PAGE AND YOU WILL BE BANNED.-

  • Examples of blanking and vandalism. Jaranda and Freakofnurture left user comments about with MostWanted05.

Below includes:

Applicable policies and guidelines

{list the policies and guidelines that apply to the disputed conduct}

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

(provide diffs and links) These are excerpts from User Talk. Posted by LILVOKA.

  • Brief edit war between MostWanted05
  • Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Hall Monitor 17:25, 21 September 2005 (UTC) reply
  • Please do not make legal threats here on Wikipedia, as per WP:NLT which is an official policy. If you would like to discuss changes to an article, use the respective talk page for that article. Thank you. Hall Monitor 17:28, 21 September 2005 (UTC) reply
  • Please also do not remove sections from talk articles just because you don't necessarily agree with them. I'm reffering to this page, where you removed "final warning" and replaced it with "good work." jfg284 20:48, 15 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  • In response to your comment on Talk:The Game, what else do you want us to do? I removed the main picture and replaced it with the picture of one of his CDs. Is there anything that I am missing? -- Hottentot
  • You need to take some time to chill when you address people on the internet. Please do not make any threats or personal attacks on anyone. You can be reported to Wikipedia adminstration. Please practice civility when addressing users. Thanks for your cooperation. LILVOKA 4 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Please stop. If you continue to use Wikipedia for advertising, you will be blocked from editing. -- Joann e B 23:21, 3 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  • This is your last warning. The next time you insert a spam link, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. -- Nlu 01:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  • You have been blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. The block is for a period of 120 hours. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires. This unusually long block is because you faked protection on the page Aftermath Entertainment even though you had no administrator rights to do so. This is a serious offense. Do it again and you will get a much longer block. -- Nlu 01:04, 7 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  • You forgot to provide mandatory detailed fair-use rationales for Image:Njd123.JPG and Image:Njd123456.JPG and Image:Yaboy1.JPG and Image:Thegamepre.JPG. Without these, the images are not permitted to be used in any articles. -- Yamla 17:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • You may not remove current warnings from this page. Please do not blank it again. Thanks. -- Yamla 19:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • This is the last time we're going at the continous reverting of the article. As before, you seem to lack the responsiblities of making a good article. Now I am proposing a request to have your user IP number(s) on the Three Strikes policy. You seem also to have vandalized my page and among other things. Now you have a choice, either we can work out a compromise to piecing The Game (or related to The Game articles) or you can take the officially blocked choice. Now really, what does it take for you to be a good writer when you leave all that on the pages! Let's work out a compromise! Thanks LILVOKA
  • Here are some rules for how to write articles, Wikipedia:Copyrights, Wikipedia:Civility, Wikipedia:No personal attacks, Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:Ownership of articles, Wikipedia:Category deletion policy
  • In the edit history you stated that "therefore delteion of big chunks of articles will not be tolerated" which you directed towards me and LIL VOKA. I did no such thing. I actually added information. I didn't delete one piece of info that wasn't relevent, and I ask you to find the instance that I did. I am trying to put in as much (relevent) info as I can about Game, I don't see why you automatically reverted it. -- Ted87 15:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • Every single image you have uploaded has either been deleted or has been flagged as missing source, license, or detailed fair-use rationale. In several cases, you mistakenly used the magazinecover license for images which were clearly not magazine covers. Please refrain from uploading any further images until you are sure you understand the requirements imposed upon you. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. -- Yamla 17:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • Please do not remove the {{orfud}} tag without providing a detailed hand-written fair-use justification and without using the image in an article. Also, please note that you removed the fairusedisputed tag from several images without providing the mandatory detailed fair-use rationale. -- Yamla 18:59, 7 June 2006 (UTC) reply
    You continue to upload images with serious copyright issues and seem to have completely ignored the requests to provide accurate source, license, and detailed fair-use rationales. Because of this, you are being blocked for 48 hours. I will unblock you if you promise to immediately go back and fix at least the images that you have uploaded today. Otherwise, you can sit out the 48 hour block. -- Yamla 17:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • I have blocked you for 24 hours to let you get some air. Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 16:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC) reply

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In order to remain listed at Wikipedia:Requests for comment, at least two people need to show that they tried to resolve a dispute with this user and have failed. This must involve the same dispute with a single user, not different disputes or multiple users. The persons complaining must provide evidence of their efforts, and each of them must certify it by signing this page with ~~~~. If this does not happen within 48 hours of the creation of this dispute page (which was: 20:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)), the page will be deleted. The current date and time is: 23:13, 4 August 2024 (UTC).



Users should only edit one summary or view, other than to endorse.

Statement of the dispute

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Well his misconduct is really quite simple...

  1. Constantly puts in unsourced info (leading to a case of edit wars).
  2. Keeps reverting other people's edits and puts back unsourced statements when it has been deleted (won't even leave a {{ citation needed}} template).
  3. Starts unneccerasry and poorly written articles.
  4. Uploads images with false copyright status.

Is completely destroying the G-Unit, The Black Wall Street Records, and The Game articles with his constant edits, reverts, image changes, etc. To a way he thinks it should be done. -- Ted87 16:24, 30 May 2006 (UTC) reply

Add inappropriate pictures also to articles as well as re establishing the articles even after disputes and resolution. Examples:

  1. Edit war examples include: MostWanted05 history
  2. The current picture add ins include:
File:Lifebws.JPG
File:Comptnife.JPG
File:Moneyover.JPG

.

File:Yaboy.JPG
File:THEGAME.JPG
File:Gamechain.JPG
File:Njdbwse.JPG
File:Hellrell.JPG
File:Gamec.JPG
File:Yaboy123.JPG
  1. The user put on spamming links as: Lil Dumu (use at your own risk)

The Black Wall Street Forum use at your own risk

  1. This user uses the IP numbers (Either the user is from the United States, Germany or the United Kingdom): User:Bwsadmin, user:86.136.5.114, user:86.133.126.15, user:86.140.15.117,

user:86.136.1.176, user:86.133.123.192, user:86.133.126.35, user:86.134.212.194, user:86.134.211.86, user:86.141.165.239, user:86.133.124.142, user:86.133.124.142, user:86.134.208.73, user:86.134.215.226, user:86.143.79.209, user:86.143.79.120, user:86.141.165.245, user:86.134.212.222, user:86.133.126.15, user:217.42.183.68, user:86.134.212.161, and User:86.134.215.218.


Each of these IP number were left with some responses from some of the users! Here's an example: User talk:MostWanted05, and Lil' Damu debate.

  1. Blantantly ignore warnings, reverts articles, and also re established already debated issues as here below: One example, Life (Black Wallstreet artist), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Young Life (rapper). Then add threatening warning to those who disagree. He took information from The Game's page (a high vandalism article) and use it to threaten myself and others: [1]
  • Poor grammar and inappropriate pictures as is the Young Life or The Game's pictures with the middle finger! (See above).

Can't prove that these sources are true. Debate with this person over the rumored signing of Shyne, G-Unit and The Game articles in the past. Asked for a compromise but no response and threats as is with History section of The Articles here.

This is some of the stuff MostWanted05 does. LILVOKA 31 May 2006 13:32 (UTC)

Description

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Evidence of disputed behavior

(Provide diffs. Links to entire articles aren't helpful unless the editor created the entire article. Edit histories also aren't helpful as they change as new edits are performed.)

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=The_Game_%28rapper%29&diff=57160519&oldid=57133466 - I made about 29 edits to The Game article. I added a ton of relevent info, sourced it, sourced old info that was on it and proof read the whole article. He reverted it in one edit, claiming I was deleting big chunks of info (despite the fact I was doing the opposite) even though that is excatly what he just did by reverting my (and a couple other people's) edits. I left a message on his talk page to ask him why he did this an his rationale behind it, but I have yet to recieve a respons -- Ted87 19:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • MostWanted05 is causing vandalism (as a form of retaliation for the deletion of the Young Life and Lil Dumu articles) and is disrupting articles to make a point at addressing his distaste for other users who dispute his uploads and articles writings. He placed a Delete (category for Speedy Deletion) on articles Hot Rod and Spider Loc. Knowing that these articles were used by many other users (despite needing factual cleanup), MostWanted05 has step over the line by allowing this behavior. LILVOKA 13:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • A comment left by MostWanted05 in the previous year:

-HALLMONITOR! IF THE CHANGING OF THIS PAGE CONSITS, I.E THE PLACING OF THE PICTURE OF THE GAME, WHICH I HAVE STATED MANY TIMES BEFORE IS AGAINST "THE GAME'S" "THE BLACK WALLSTREET" COPYRIGHT AGREEMENT. IF THIS CONTINUES LEGAL ADVICE / ACTION WILL BE SOUGHT ON "THE BLACK WALLSTREET" BEHALF. PLEASE ONLY USE THE MIXTAPE COVER, OR ANY ALBUM COVER. BIG FASE 100 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.133.123.192 ( talkcontribs) 09:47, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

YOU DO NOT OWN THIS PAGE THEREFORE, YOU "DO NOT" HAVE THE RIGHT OT EDIT PEOPLES POSTS AND INFORMATION THAT ARE CORRECT AND ARE NEEDED IN THIS TOPIC. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DELETE CORRECT POSTS, THIS IS CLASSED AS VANDALISM! IF THIS PAGE CARRY'S ON GOING BACK TO "YOUR" PAGE AND NOT THE PEOPLES, THEN NOT ONLY WILL I INFORM AN ADMIN, BUT THE GAME HIMSELF, TO SOUGHT THIS OUT!

THERES NO SUCH THING AS G-UNIT THE GROUP - PLEASE GO TO INTERSCOPE.COM AND SEE WHO IS SIGNED TO G-UNIT - THERE IS NO G-UNIT GROUP

G-Unit Records Roster If someone would please take the time to investigate this:- http://www.interscope.com/artists/. All artists of g-unit are solely signed to g-unit and interscope the only member of aftermath from g-unit is 50 cent.

PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE EDITING G-UNIT ARE SIGNED TO INTERSCOPE!

G UNIT ARE NOT ON AFTERMATH! IF THIS IS CHANGED AGAIN- HALLMONITOR WILL BE NOTIFIED

G-UNIT IS NOT A BRANCH OF AFTERMATH- CONTINUE TO VANDALISE THIS PAGE AND YOU WILL BE BANNED.-

  • Examples of blanking and vandalism. Jaranda and Freakofnurture left user comments about with MostWanted05.

Below includes:

Applicable policies and guidelines

{list the policies and guidelines that apply to the disputed conduct}

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

(provide diffs and links) These are excerpts from User Talk. Posted by LILVOKA.

  • Brief edit war between MostWanted05
  • Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Hall Monitor 17:25, 21 September 2005 (UTC) reply
  • Please do not make legal threats here on Wikipedia, as per WP:NLT which is an official policy. If you would like to discuss changes to an article, use the respective talk page for that article. Thank you. Hall Monitor 17:28, 21 September 2005 (UTC) reply
  • Please also do not remove sections from talk articles just because you don't necessarily agree with them. I'm reffering to this page, where you removed "final warning" and replaced it with "good work." jfg284 20:48, 15 November 2005 (UTC) reply
  • In response to your comment on Talk:The Game, what else do you want us to do? I removed the main picture and replaced it with the picture of one of his CDs. Is there anything that I am missing? -- Hottentot
  • You need to take some time to chill when you address people on the internet. Please do not make any threats or personal attacks on anyone. You can be reported to Wikipedia adminstration. Please practice civility when addressing users. Thanks for your cooperation. LILVOKA 4 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Please stop. If you continue to use Wikipedia for advertising, you will be blocked from editing. -- Joann e B 23:21, 3 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  • This is your last warning. The next time you insert a spam link, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. -- Nlu 01:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  • You have been blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. The block is for a period of 120 hours. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires. This unusually long block is because you faked protection on the page Aftermath Entertainment even though you had no administrator rights to do so. This is a serious offense. Do it again and you will get a much longer block. -- Nlu 01:04, 7 December 2005 (UTC) reply
  • You forgot to provide mandatory detailed fair-use rationales for Image:Njd123.JPG and Image:Njd123456.JPG and Image:Yaboy1.JPG and Image:Thegamepre.JPG. Without these, the images are not permitted to be used in any articles. -- Yamla 17:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • You may not remove current warnings from this page. Please do not blank it again. Thanks. -- Yamla 19:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • This is the last time we're going at the continous reverting of the article. As before, you seem to lack the responsiblities of making a good article. Now I am proposing a request to have your user IP number(s) on the Three Strikes policy. You seem also to have vandalized my page and among other things. Now you have a choice, either we can work out a compromise to piecing The Game (or related to The Game articles) or you can take the officially blocked choice. Now really, what does it take for you to be a good writer when you leave all that on the pages! Let's work out a compromise! Thanks LILVOKA
  • Here are some rules for how to write articles, Wikipedia:Copyrights, Wikipedia:Civility, Wikipedia:No personal attacks, Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:Ownership of articles, Wikipedia:Category deletion policy
  • In the edit history you stated that "therefore delteion of big chunks of articles will not be tolerated" which you directed towards me and LIL VOKA. I did no such thing. I actually added information. I didn't delete one piece of info that wasn't relevent, and I ask you to find the instance that I did. I am trying to put in as much (relevent) info as I can about Game, I don't see why you automatically reverted it. -- Ted87 15:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • Every single image you have uploaded has either been deleted or has been flagged as missing source, license, or detailed fair-use rationale. In several cases, you mistakenly used the magazinecover license for images which were clearly not magazine covers. Please refrain from uploading any further images until you are sure you understand the requirements imposed upon you. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. -- Yamla 17:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • Please do not remove the {{orfud}} tag without providing a detailed hand-written fair-use justification and without using the image in an article. Also, please note that you removed the fairusedisputed tag from several images without providing the mandatory detailed fair-use rationale. -- Yamla 18:59, 7 June 2006 (UTC) reply
    You continue to upload images with serious copyright issues and seem to have completely ignored the requests to provide accurate source, license, and detailed fair-use rationales. Because of this, you are being blocked for 48 hours. I will unblock you if you promise to immediately go back and fix at least the images that you have uploaded today. Otherwise, you can sit out the 48 hour block. -- Yamla 17:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC) reply
  • I have blocked you for 24 hours to let you get some air. Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 16:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC) reply

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