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Statement of the dispute

The editor Jotamar persists raising objections and making obstructive edits in section Politics in Navarre, see also Talk:Navarre. While we got to an understanding in some former edits, the editor has increasingly engaged in obstructive editing, insisting in adding wording according to his preference, or overuse of demanding tags. Is that behaviour acceptable at all? I add also links to previous edits by this editor and disputes I was involved with him (the ones I could track down). Iñaki LL (talk) 22:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Desired outcome

  • Assess the disruptive conduct of the above user if applicable
  • Editor will stop raising dubious and unhelpful objections
  • Editor will add tags only if he has good grounds/leads, based on his knowledge of the topic, to think that an information may not be so
  • Editor will add verifiability

Description

The reported editor keeps raising objections of a POV nature in a string on Navarre, I have met him in previous edits where, like here, he shows reactive, inaccurate and unsupported responses and edits/tags I have to fix myself, no care really, and no real insight into the matter in question. His answers often mention a "neutrality" claim. He asked for 3o and got an adverse answer but that would not be enough, so kept making claims. Attempted DRN, but does not apply to conduct matters (...) Discouraging and really wasting my time.

Evidence of disputed behavior

(Provide diffs. Links to entire articles aren't helpful unless the editor created the entire article. Edit histories also aren't helpful as they change as new edits are performed.)

Article Navarre, I provide diffs of Jotamar's relevant edits in order to follow the threat next and/or back.

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=611247542&oldid=610983358
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=608251862&oldid=603952068
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=609817917&oldid=609577502
  4. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=610509734&oldid=610509528
  5. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=610647162&oldid=610603363
  6. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=610950947&oldid=610765139
  7. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=610952350&oldid=610951648

Article Navarre, a previous case

  1. /info/en/?search=User_talk:Jotamar#Citation_needed_in_Navarre
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=510478043&oldid=510181628

Article Treviño enclave dispute

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Trevi%C3%B1o_enclave_dispute&diff=605753301&oldid=605753016
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Trevi%C3%B1o_enclave_dispute&diff=605773875&oldid=605767087

Article Treviño exclave

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Trevi%C3%B1o_exclave&diff=605754401&oldid=605082216
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Trevi%C3%B1o_exclave&diff=599448087&oldid=598168640

Article Basque Country

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Basque_Country_(autonomous_community)&diff=560222654&oldid=560020209
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Basque_Country_(autonomous_community)&diff=562747469&oldid=562731160
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Basque_Country_(autonomous_community)&diff=562600669&oldid=561867383

Article Basque language

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Basque_language&diff=584870139&oldid=584522567
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Basque_language&diff=584230290&oldid=582962649

Applicable policies and guidelines

{List the policies and guidelines that apply to the disputed conduct}

  1. Wikipedia:Disruptive editing
  2. WP is not a forum
  3. Wikipedia:Verifiability

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

(Provide diffs of the comments. As with anywhere else on this RfC/U, links to entire articles aren't helpful unless the editor created the entire article. Edit histories also aren't helpful as they change as new edits are performed.)

  1. /info/en/?search=Talk:Navarre#Present-day_politics
  2. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Navarre.23Present-day_politics

Attempts by certifier User:Ugog Nizdast

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Navarre&diff=610531785&oldid=610512906

Attempts by certifier User:TransporterMan

  1. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Navarre.23Present-day_politics

Other attempts


Users certifying the basis for this dispute

{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}

Other users who endorse this summary

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Statement of the dispute

The editor Jotamar persists raising objections and making obstructive edits in section Politics in Navarre, see also Talk:Navarre. While we got to an understanding in some former edits, the editor has increasingly engaged in obstructive editing, insisting in adding wording according to his preference, or overuse of demanding tags. Is that behaviour acceptable at all? I add also links to previous edits by this editor and disputes I was involved with him (the ones I could track down). Iñaki LL (talk) 22:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Desired outcome

  • Assess the disruptive conduct of the above user if applicable
  • Editor will stop raising dubious and unhelpful objections
  • Editor will add tags only if he has good grounds/leads, based on his knowledge of the topic, to think that an information may not be so
  • Editor will add verifiability

Description

The reported editor keeps raising objections of a POV nature in a string on Navarre, I have met him in previous edits where, like here, he shows reactive, inaccurate and unsupported responses and edits/tags I have to fix myself, no care really, and no real insight into the matter in question. His answers often mention a "neutrality" claim. He asked for 3o and got an adverse answer but that would not be enough, so kept making claims. Attempted DRN, but does not apply to conduct matters (...) Discouraging and really wasting my time.

Evidence of disputed behavior

(Provide diffs. Links to entire articles aren't helpful unless the editor created the entire article. Edit histories also aren't helpful as they change as new edits are performed.)

Article Navarre, I provide diffs of Jotamar's relevant edits in order to follow the threat next and/or back.

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=611247542&oldid=610983358
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=608251862&oldid=603952068
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=609817917&oldid=609577502
  4. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=610509734&oldid=610509528
  5. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=610647162&oldid=610603363
  6. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=610950947&oldid=610765139
  7. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=610952350&oldid=610951648

Article Navarre, a previous case

  1. /info/en/?search=User_talk:Jotamar#Citation_needed_in_Navarre
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Navarre&diff=510478043&oldid=510181628

Article Treviño enclave dispute

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Trevi%C3%B1o_enclave_dispute&diff=605753301&oldid=605753016
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Trevi%C3%B1o_enclave_dispute&diff=605773875&oldid=605767087

Article Treviño exclave

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Trevi%C3%B1o_exclave&diff=605754401&oldid=605082216
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Trevi%C3%B1o_exclave&diff=599448087&oldid=598168640

Article Basque Country

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Basque_Country_(autonomous_community)&diff=560222654&oldid=560020209
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Basque_Country_(autonomous_community)&diff=562747469&oldid=562731160
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Basque_Country_(autonomous_community)&diff=562600669&oldid=561867383

Article Basque language

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Basque_language&diff=584870139&oldid=584522567
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Basque_language&diff=584230290&oldid=582962649

Applicable policies and guidelines

{List the policies and guidelines that apply to the disputed conduct}

  1. Wikipedia:Disruptive editing
  2. WP is not a forum
  3. Wikipedia:Verifiability

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

(Provide diffs of the comments. As with anywhere else on this RfC/U, links to entire articles aren't helpful unless the editor created the entire article. Edit histories also aren't helpful as they change as new edits are performed.)

  1. /info/en/?search=Talk:Navarre#Present-day_politics
  2. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Navarre.23Present-day_politics

Attempts by certifier User:Ugog Nizdast

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Navarre&diff=610531785&oldid=610512906

Attempts by certifier User:TransporterMan

  1. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Navarre.23Present-day_politics

Other attempts


Users certifying the basis for this dispute

{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}

Other users who endorse this summary

{Anyone is welcome to endorse this or any other view, but do not change other people's views. RFC/U does not accept "opposes" or "anti-endorsements"; the fact that you do not endorse a view indicates that you do not entirely agree with it. Discussion of this view or other people's endorsements belongs on the talk page, not in this section.}


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