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Gabrielsimon systematically alters articles with content that reflects his personal opinions and beliefs, often of a controversial nature, without regard for the Neutral point of view policy, stating them as fact. When those comments (often uncalled-for, disruptive of the flow of text, and badly phrased) are deleted by other editors, he complains of abuse and reverts the deletion. He has been blocked several times for violating the three revert rule, and has reacted by accusing the administrators and other editors of abuse. He has also resisted the Votes for deletion policy, removed a VfD tag, and refused to acknowledge other Wikipedia policies.
It should be noted that the evidence detailed below was gathered from the user's contributions going back no more than approximately a week. The matter was discussed with the user and suggestions were made to him about policy and conduct. Immediately after that the user resumed his behavior (by the time he is already blocked again for 3RR violation). -- Pablo D. Flores 13:39, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
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I would like to requet that in any case of 3rr violation invilving DreamGuy, that other editors look at his edit summaries for rude, or inmsulting edit summaries, that constitutes baiting, and it happens more hten a few times. in fact, on my momst recent block, he DID bait me, and used my block to try to claim consensus on issues he knew he had none on.
as for the most recent block which apparently triggered this posting, it was nto a " resumption of behaviour" as it was awssumed to be by this pages poster, it was in fact of an entirly differnt nature, but i dont supposes you were goingto bother to actaully read the conversations about it, hrmm? Gabrielsimon 14:33, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
as for the blanking allegation, please look at hte next avaliable place in the edit histroy. that being [98]. Gabrielsimon 14:39, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
as for "misleading comments" it is plain to see if you examine the eit histories of al lthe articles in question about missing sun motif and or myth that i am not incorrect that the page renaming as done without consensus, i was my belief that to undo that would be justified, Gabrielsimon 14:41, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
link labelled "1" on the other page, not my work, i was reverting it, and was planning on modifying it, but never got the chance to. Gabrielsimon 14:45, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
as for links 4, 5, 6, this was the truth i was putting in, and i even tried to make it sound NPOV, other people just didnt like it. Gabrielsimon 14:48, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
as for nine and ten, it was simply that the other editor refusedto supply adqquate proof, and seems to have reverted out of some long held spite. Gabrielsimon 14:50, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
as for 11, 12, 13, i had put a lot ofeffort into typingthose out, and the explaination seemed rather weak. Gabrielsimon 14:51, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
17 through twenty, typos aside, this was the truth of the matter, and not MY truth, simply The truth, i care not for people whj ike to tone down the truth and use paltry excuses. i might admit that the wording as a bit harsh, but it is not unjust. Gabrielsimon 14:54, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
21 is not a vanadlaistic comment, it is, again, simply the truth put too harshly for people who are, as has been said, of a different POV. Gabrielsimon 14:56, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
ther is no "baiting" and the discussions invilving septembe 11 attacks page is found on my talk page. Gabrielsimon 14:59, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
all in all this seems poorly constructed evidance to me, but thats just me. Gabrielsimon 14:59, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
[moving his comment from evidence section to here, regarding removing of someone else's comment] - it was unsinged, so i removed it. sue me. proof? here. http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Therianthropy&diff=20245935&oldid=20245818 Gabrielsimon 06:40, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
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as for friday's latest two additions, his afdition of the RFC link.. the motive therof, was questionable... doubious,... its like he was trying to use it to sway an argument.
Gabrielsimon 05:45, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
as for the other thing thathe just posted, he should mind his own business, and stop following me around ,searching for things i do wrong. its getting annoying. Gabrielsimon 05:45, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
as for http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Otherkin&diff=prev&oldid=19680298 that one, DreamGuy's just antzy becasue EVERYTHING i say is rude, as far as hes concerned (sigh) its my contention that the otherkin article should be treeated specially, and im in the process of trying to convince others of that in otherp leaces... Gabrielsimon 07:10, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
anyway, i cant really think that DreamGuy can be relied upon for what is and what isnt rude, considering that a good deal of this edits ARE quite rude, and yet he seems not to notice that. ill not stoop to mudlisning, but they are there if you look.
Gabrielsimon 07:12, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
80 - i was getting really frustrated, becaseu of my repeatedattempts to ask people to give me some spafe so i wcould try to start again only met with DreamGuy's annoying comments.
81 - after moneths of his constant incivillity my patiemnce with hiom is at an end., so i begion to become as disrespectfull to him as he is to me.
82 - after moneths of his constant incivillity my patiemnce with hiom is at an end., so i begion to become as disrespectfull to him as he is to me.
83 - rediculus, hes the one who posted the broken link, i called him on it, and hetried to change it to look like hed done nothing wrong, so i changed it back, hes reaslly just whining about his own mistakes, and holing on to his vendetta
84 - i deleted accusations of sock puy[pp[erty, that hes making ponly becaue i made some about him, i will contunie to defend users , bewcasue the last one wejnt aqwaty after he and others rudly treated him like dirt on account of me.
85 - im trying tpo prevent DreamGuy from driving away ANOTHER newbie, if he dont like it, maybe he should shove his face into an active volcano Gabrielsimon 03:02, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Very odd. If I didn't know better, I'd swear there was a language barrier partly at work here, given some of the edits that Gabrielsimon has attempted to make. His edits to the vampire article seem to be written as if from the point of view of someone who is or knows a vampire, which qualifies as, well, odd. His edits to the wolf article reflects a passion for wolves, but he needs to learn how to maintain that passion and not turn wikipedia into a POV advocacy article against wolf-hunting. No matter how horrific a topic, wikipedia must maintain enough distance to report facts, not advocate a cause. His edits to change references to the 9-11 "terrorists" to "militants" also indicates his point of view, one I find no sympathy for. As for "capitalization" and other such reverts, I myself am not clear on the wikipedia rules, nor is it clear whether such rules were pointed out by anyone in a non-confrontational manner early on in this whole thing. Evidence of "baiting" does seem to be a bit of a stretch, but having no history with the entire talk page, perhaps the diffs provided do not show the true context or perhaps not. He clearly broke some wikipedia policies, such as NPOV. And he clearly can make a great contribution to wikipedia if he can learn to remain true to his beliefs while editing within wikipedia policies. Whether he does that is up to him. FuelWagon 22:17, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
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I did not initially intend to provide another outside view about this editor. In view of the large number of Wikipedians who have signed this RfC, I thought that adding one more person would be, in the terms of American football, "piling on", a form of unnecessary roughness. However, there is an article RfC on Otherkin about its use of original research and lack of verifiability. The history of that article shows that this editor has violated the 3RR rule within the past 24 hours by removing a verifiability and original research tag. I have seen enough evidence now to be willing to sign the summary. Robert McClenon 13:27, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Although Gabrielsimon may have reverted the 3RR violation and has angered other users by his content and NPOV, I think it is wise that such misgivings not interfere with the work of Wikipedia. A compromise at this point is vital: Gabriel, stop adding controversial/bias content within the encyclopedia. Detractors, please do not bash Gabriel as I have read here before. Some comments here have implied that he has done nothing to benefit this encyclopedia. I believe personally that he has done more to benefit this encyclopedia with over 1,500 edits, and nearly 500 in articles [ [99]]. The detractors obviously need to recognize the value of this user, and Gabrielsimon should not add dubious content, and not break the 3RR rule. Dbraceyrules 14:03, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Note: The argument is not that Gabrielsimon's number of edits warrants his NPOV and 3RR violations, and I apologize if I have not clarified that enough. The argument is simply a compromise: Gabrielsimon should adhere to the demands of the editors, and cease his additions of dubious content in the encyclopedia: if he does not, he should suffer the consequences (i.e. an extremely long block, or restrictions of privileges). However, I have also stated that the other users need not bash him anymore, i.e. to imply that all of his edits are of no value, and that Gabrielsimon does not have potential in this encyclopedia. I don't think this argument is that far fetched than any of the others. I am not saying that Gabriel is right, but I can't say his detractors who find nothing of value in this editor are 100% right either. Give him another chance, I sincerely hope that these RfC's and RfA's bring a change in his edits. If not, he can only suffer the consequences. I think that is only fair. It is hard to doubt that many of these editors have so much preeminent dislike of this user's edits that they may be overly brash toward him. Dbraceyrules 01:17, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
I have been watching and occasionally dealing with Gabrielsimon for the last month or so, and I must say the experience has been alternately fascinating and frustrating... with a slant towards the latter. Gabriel seems to have a difficulty understanding Wikipedia policy, and not only that, has a penchant for misinterpreting policy. He also has unusual sensitivity when it comes to people criticizing his edits; it is perhaps unfortunate that he has also come up against one or two editors who are less than tactful in criticising those edits. Taking it personally (on either side) makes positions harden impossible to negotiate, so naturally the name calling and the edit wars escalate accordingly. I have talked to Gabriel, I have tried to reason with him, and occasionally for a time I see a glimmer of hope as he actually gets what I am trying to say, and even improves for a while. But then he undoes all the hope I have placed in him by reverting to type.
Despite all this, I do not think he is unteachable, but the longer he continues editing in this way, the more inevitable a permanent ban becomes. Gabriel needs to learn to take a chill pill, understand what his edits are being criticised for and address those issues in an objective, non-confrontational way, and above all, try not to be baited. I honestly do not know how this can be done - change, as they say, has to come from within. Gabriel says he needs time to change, and that he is trying to. If I assume that he is sincere, perhaps what he needs is a Wikiholiday, to voluntarily stop editing for a month (or however long it takes), reflect, get away from the interpersonal conflicts that have plagued his time here so far, allow parties to cool down, and then come back with hopefully, a fresh start. I would urge Gabriel to accept this advice before the holiday becomes involuntary. -- khaosworks 02:10, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
Addendum: Gabriel's latest additions to this RfC's talk page merely reinforces my opinion that he desperately needs a break. --02:28, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
Like most other people, I personally feel that gabrielsimon's edits have been in reasonably good faith throughout my dealings with him. However, that is not to state that they have been in any way appropriate. Indeed, reading the evidence list, I wondered if articles such as Vampire lifestyle were included in there as he has been doing the same things in that case as those listed. I did not attempt to determine whether or not the 3RR was breached during the course of this argument, however it is distinctly possible as he reverted edits made by me or anyobdy consistantly for a period nearing a week. He also blanked comments from talkpages despite having been told fairly numerous times not to do so.
In other words, while this behavior is usually a misunderstanding of the rules, it appears to me that this is a special case. The violations have clearly been going on for some lengthy period of time: our interaction was several months ago and I believe there have been incidents before that still. Though behaviour can be changed, there has been ample opportunity to do that and many people have provided very clear advice in good faith; however it has unfortunately been more or less ignored at every turn. Unless we are to see a very dramatic change in editing patterns over the next few weeks I would strongly suggest that decisive action be taken: while he is disputing endlessly with editors no productive editing is being done at all because it cannot be. Further, every ciritcism of these editing practices is rebuked with allegations of personal bias, and the user seems to have moved on to abusing administrative tags such as "protected" recently, causing a page to be protected even as of a few hours ago (as of this writing).
This behaviour, in my opinion, demonstrates clearly both an inability to reform behaviour (or understand the necessity for that reform) and a significant breach of the trust inherent in a wiki structure. Further, the editor has still failed to desist long after the introduction of this RfC. If you do not realise the seriousness of the situation even after an RfC has been raised, when will you? I therefore and most regrettably propose that the outcome of this RfC be the most severe possible.
Falcon 08:39, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
I haven't been following up on this user and his edit history, but from what I've read, his spelling and grammar are horrible. How can he be allowed admin status with this in mind? It's really painful and disturbing to read his comments on talk pages, and if he edits like that all the time on articles as well, I say ban him altogether. EliasAlucard| Talk 22:20, 08 Aug, 2005 (UTC)
I finally got Gabriel to make his first NPOV edit today. It would be a shame to waste all the effort I've made, teaching him how to write neutrally.
Also, part of the problem was over-zealousness on the part of DreamGuy. He has agreed to withdraw and let SlimVirgin and me supervise Gabriel.
Finally, Gabriel has admitted to creating a sockpuppet account to get a fresh start. He will not be using the old account to evade a ban; if he does, both accounts are to be blocked at once. See the agreement at his talk page.
And this is his new account:
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Gabrielsimon systematically alters articles with content that reflects his personal opinions and beliefs, often of a controversial nature, without regard for the Neutral point of view policy, stating them as fact. When those comments (often uncalled-for, disruptive of the flow of text, and badly phrased) are deleted by other editors, he complains of abuse and reverts the deletion. He has been blocked several times for violating the three revert rule, and has reacted by accusing the administrators and other editors of abuse. He has also resisted the Votes for deletion policy, removed a VfD tag, and refused to acknowledge other Wikipedia policies.
It should be noted that the evidence detailed below was gathered from the user's contributions going back no more than approximately a week. The matter was discussed with the user and suggestions were made to him about policy and conduct. Immediately after that the user resumed his behavior (by the time he is already blocked again for 3RR violation). -- Pablo D. Flores 13:39, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
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I would like to requet that in any case of 3rr violation invilving DreamGuy, that other editors look at his edit summaries for rude, or inmsulting edit summaries, that constitutes baiting, and it happens more hten a few times. in fact, on my momst recent block, he DID bait me, and used my block to try to claim consensus on issues he knew he had none on.
as for the most recent block which apparently triggered this posting, it was nto a " resumption of behaviour" as it was awssumed to be by this pages poster, it was in fact of an entirly differnt nature, but i dont supposes you were goingto bother to actaully read the conversations about it, hrmm? Gabrielsimon 14:33, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
as for the blanking allegation, please look at hte next avaliable place in the edit histroy. that being [98]. Gabrielsimon 14:39, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
as for "misleading comments" it is plain to see if you examine the eit histories of al lthe articles in question about missing sun motif and or myth that i am not incorrect that the page renaming as done without consensus, i was my belief that to undo that would be justified, Gabrielsimon 14:41, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
link labelled "1" on the other page, not my work, i was reverting it, and was planning on modifying it, but never got the chance to. Gabrielsimon 14:45, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
as for links 4, 5, 6, this was the truth i was putting in, and i even tried to make it sound NPOV, other people just didnt like it. Gabrielsimon 14:48, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
as for nine and ten, it was simply that the other editor refusedto supply adqquate proof, and seems to have reverted out of some long held spite. Gabrielsimon 14:50, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
as for 11, 12, 13, i had put a lot ofeffort into typingthose out, and the explaination seemed rather weak. Gabrielsimon 14:51, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
17 through twenty, typos aside, this was the truth of the matter, and not MY truth, simply The truth, i care not for people whj ike to tone down the truth and use paltry excuses. i might admit that the wording as a bit harsh, but it is not unjust. Gabrielsimon 14:54, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
21 is not a vanadlaistic comment, it is, again, simply the truth put too harshly for people who are, as has been said, of a different POV. Gabrielsimon 14:56, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
ther is no "baiting" and the discussions invilving septembe 11 attacks page is found on my talk page. Gabrielsimon 14:59, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
all in all this seems poorly constructed evidance to me, but thats just me. Gabrielsimon 14:59, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
[moving his comment from evidence section to here, regarding removing of someone else's comment] - it was unsinged, so i removed it. sue me. proof? here. http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Therianthropy&diff=20245935&oldid=20245818 Gabrielsimon 06:40, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
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as for friday's latest two additions, his afdition of the RFC link.. the motive therof, was questionable... doubious,... its like he was trying to use it to sway an argument.
Gabrielsimon 05:45, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
as for the other thing thathe just posted, he should mind his own business, and stop following me around ,searching for things i do wrong. its getting annoying. Gabrielsimon 05:45, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
as for http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Otherkin&diff=prev&oldid=19680298 that one, DreamGuy's just antzy becasue EVERYTHING i say is rude, as far as hes concerned (sigh) its my contention that the otherkin article should be treeated specially, and im in the process of trying to convince others of that in otherp leaces... Gabrielsimon 07:10, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
anyway, i cant really think that DreamGuy can be relied upon for what is and what isnt rude, considering that a good deal of this edits ARE quite rude, and yet he seems not to notice that. ill not stoop to mudlisning, but they are there if you look.
Gabrielsimon 07:12, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
80 - i was getting really frustrated, becaseu of my repeatedattempts to ask people to give me some spafe so i wcould try to start again only met with DreamGuy's annoying comments.
81 - after moneths of his constant incivillity my patiemnce with hiom is at an end., so i begion to become as disrespectfull to him as he is to me.
82 - after moneths of his constant incivillity my patiemnce with hiom is at an end., so i begion to become as disrespectfull to him as he is to me.
83 - rediculus, hes the one who posted the broken link, i called him on it, and hetried to change it to look like hed done nothing wrong, so i changed it back, hes reaslly just whining about his own mistakes, and holing on to his vendetta
84 - i deleted accusations of sock puy[pp[erty, that hes making ponly becaue i made some about him, i will contunie to defend users , bewcasue the last one wejnt aqwaty after he and others rudly treated him like dirt on account of me.
85 - im trying tpo prevent DreamGuy from driving away ANOTHER newbie, if he dont like it, maybe he should shove his face into an active volcano Gabrielsimon 03:02, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Very odd. If I didn't know better, I'd swear there was a language barrier partly at work here, given some of the edits that Gabrielsimon has attempted to make. His edits to the vampire article seem to be written as if from the point of view of someone who is or knows a vampire, which qualifies as, well, odd. His edits to the wolf article reflects a passion for wolves, but he needs to learn how to maintain that passion and not turn wikipedia into a POV advocacy article against wolf-hunting. No matter how horrific a topic, wikipedia must maintain enough distance to report facts, not advocate a cause. His edits to change references to the 9-11 "terrorists" to "militants" also indicates his point of view, one I find no sympathy for. As for "capitalization" and other such reverts, I myself am not clear on the wikipedia rules, nor is it clear whether such rules were pointed out by anyone in a non-confrontational manner early on in this whole thing. Evidence of "baiting" does seem to be a bit of a stretch, but having no history with the entire talk page, perhaps the diffs provided do not show the true context or perhaps not. He clearly broke some wikipedia policies, such as NPOV. And he clearly can make a great contribution to wikipedia if he can learn to remain true to his beliefs while editing within wikipedia policies. Whether he does that is up to him. FuelWagon 22:17, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
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I did not initially intend to provide another outside view about this editor. In view of the large number of Wikipedians who have signed this RfC, I thought that adding one more person would be, in the terms of American football, "piling on", a form of unnecessary roughness. However, there is an article RfC on Otherkin about its use of original research and lack of verifiability. The history of that article shows that this editor has violated the 3RR rule within the past 24 hours by removing a verifiability and original research tag. I have seen enough evidence now to be willing to sign the summary. Robert McClenon 13:27, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Although Gabrielsimon may have reverted the 3RR violation and has angered other users by his content and NPOV, I think it is wise that such misgivings not interfere with the work of Wikipedia. A compromise at this point is vital: Gabriel, stop adding controversial/bias content within the encyclopedia. Detractors, please do not bash Gabriel as I have read here before. Some comments here have implied that he has done nothing to benefit this encyclopedia. I believe personally that he has done more to benefit this encyclopedia with over 1,500 edits, and nearly 500 in articles [ [99]]. The detractors obviously need to recognize the value of this user, and Gabrielsimon should not add dubious content, and not break the 3RR rule. Dbraceyrules 14:03, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Note: The argument is not that Gabrielsimon's number of edits warrants his NPOV and 3RR violations, and I apologize if I have not clarified that enough. The argument is simply a compromise: Gabrielsimon should adhere to the demands of the editors, and cease his additions of dubious content in the encyclopedia: if he does not, he should suffer the consequences (i.e. an extremely long block, or restrictions of privileges). However, I have also stated that the other users need not bash him anymore, i.e. to imply that all of his edits are of no value, and that Gabrielsimon does not have potential in this encyclopedia. I don't think this argument is that far fetched than any of the others. I am not saying that Gabriel is right, but I can't say his detractors who find nothing of value in this editor are 100% right either. Give him another chance, I sincerely hope that these RfC's and RfA's bring a change in his edits. If not, he can only suffer the consequences. I think that is only fair. It is hard to doubt that many of these editors have so much preeminent dislike of this user's edits that they may be overly brash toward him. Dbraceyrules 01:17, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
I have been watching and occasionally dealing with Gabrielsimon for the last month or so, and I must say the experience has been alternately fascinating and frustrating... with a slant towards the latter. Gabriel seems to have a difficulty understanding Wikipedia policy, and not only that, has a penchant for misinterpreting policy. He also has unusual sensitivity when it comes to people criticizing his edits; it is perhaps unfortunate that he has also come up against one or two editors who are less than tactful in criticising those edits. Taking it personally (on either side) makes positions harden impossible to negotiate, so naturally the name calling and the edit wars escalate accordingly. I have talked to Gabriel, I have tried to reason with him, and occasionally for a time I see a glimmer of hope as he actually gets what I am trying to say, and even improves for a while. But then he undoes all the hope I have placed in him by reverting to type.
Despite all this, I do not think he is unteachable, but the longer he continues editing in this way, the more inevitable a permanent ban becomes. Gabriel needs to learn to take a chill pill, understand what his edits are being criticised for and address those issues in an objective, non-confrontational way, and above all, try not to be baited. I honestly do not know how this can be done - change, as they say, has to come from within. Gabriel says he needs time to change, and that he is trying to. If I assume that he is sincere, perhaps what he needs is a Wikiholiday, to voluntarily stop editing for a month (or however long it takes), reflect, get away from the interpersonal conflicts that have plagued his time here so far, allow parties to cool down, and then come back with hopefully, a fresh start. I would urge Gabriel to accept this advice before the holiday becomes involuntary. -- khaosworks 02:10, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
Addendum: Gabriel's latest additions to this RfC's talk page merely reinforces my opinion that he desperately needs a break. --02:28, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
Like most other people, I personally feel that gabrielsimon's edits have been in reasonably good faith throughout my dealings with him. However, that is not to state that they have been in any way appropriate. Indeed, reading the evidence list, I wondered if articles such as Vampire lifestyle were included in there as he has been doing the same things in that case as those listed. I did not attempt to determine whether or not the 3RR was breached during the course of this argument, however it is distinctly possible as he reverted edits made by me or anyobdy consistantly for a period nearing a week. He also blanked comments from talkpages despite having been told fairly numerous times not to do so.
In other words, while this behavior is usually a misunderstanding of the rules, it appears to me that this is a special case. The violations have clearly been going on for some lengthy period of time: our interaction was several months ago and I believe there have been incidents before that still. Though behaviour can be changed, there has been ample opportunity to do that and many people have provided very clear advice in good faith; however it has unfortunately been more or less ignored at every turn. Unless we are to see a very dramatic change in editing patterns over the next few weeks I would strongly suggest that decisive action be taken: while he is disputing endlessly with editors no productive editing is being done at all because it cannot be. Further, every ciritcism of these editing practices is rebuked with allegations of personal bias, and the user seems to have moved on to abusing administrative tags such as "protected" recently, causing a page to be protected even as of a few hours ago (as of this writing).
This behaviour, in my opinion, demonstrates clearly both an inability to reform behaviour (or understand the necessity for that reform) and a significant breach of the trust inherent in a wiki structure. Further, the editor has still failed to desist long after the introduction of this RfC. If you do not realise the seriousness of the situation even after an RfC has been raised, when will you? I therefore and most regrettably propose that the outcome of this RfC be the most severe possible.
Falcon 08:39, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
I haven't been following up on this user and his edit history, but from what I've read, his spelling and grammar are horrible. How can he be allowed admin status with this in mind? It's really painful and disturbing to read his comments on talk pages, and if he edits like that all the time on articles as well, I say ban him altogether. EliasAlucard| Talk 22:20, 08 Aug, 2005 (UTC)
I finally got Gabriel to make his first NPOV edit today. It would be a shame to waste all the effort I've made, teaching him how to write neutrally.
Also, part of the problem was over-zealousness on the part of DreamGuy. He has agreed to withdraw and let SlimVirgin and me supervise Gabriel.
Finally, Gabriel has admitted to creating a sockpuppet account to get a fresh start. He will not be using the old account to evade a ban; if he does, both accounts are to be blocked at once. See the agreement at his talk page.
And this is his new account:
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