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ryanholiday mentions Seth Godin [ [4]] TheRegicider edits Dachshund [ [5]], ryanholiday blogs about his dachshund: [ [6]]. basically, anything TheRegicider edits, you can find ryan holiday blogging about on ryanholiday.net. also, ryan holiday has a habit of linking to his ad-filled website from wikipedia articles he edits (big time COI), and then he wrote an article on ryanholiday.net about how wikipedia is a good way to get traffic to your website. see: http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:ZhNFQn9IDVYJ:www.ryanholiday.net/archives/building_a_wikipedia_account.phtml+ryanholiday+wikipedia&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us since his website has tons of ads, you can easily conclude that he is profiting off his COI. Theserialcomma ( talk) 11:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
I have an account at my work computer and one at home/laptop. I'm honestly not very comfortable discussing my personal life here (nor do I on my website other than my name), it makes me feel a little violated to see this extensive backlog of research that this user has done especially considering my edits have been in good faith and taken up tons of my personal time. Is there probably a bit of conflict on me editing that article, yeah. If you'd like me to stop, I definitely will.
Regardless, I'd like to stress again that comments like this one that Theserialcomma left on my talk page make me very uncomfortable.
I will be filing an official report of this conflict of interest to the proper channels if we can't settle this informally. The uninvolved administrations will then make a decision based on the evidence which will either exonerate you or verify the conflict of interest. Please respond here and let me know how I shall proceed.
It also really sucks to see an abusive editor and generally destructive person post my personal details and estalk me because he so hates someone I had some affiliation with. Nevertheless, he wins. If at all possible, I'd like if this page could go away because it gives me the creeps. TheRegicider (talk) 05:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
I really like Wikipedia and have edited hundreds of articles. I've obviously made some mistakes but I think I've also worked really hard to research and come at things from new angles across subjects. I'll save everyone the trouble and just close my accounts. The whole thing makes me really queasy and uncomfortable so I will step away. Anyways, thanks to all. I apologize for any conflicts although not for the hatchet job posted above.
If I could, this page violates WP:OUTING and WP:HUSH and it would be very much appreciated if it could be taken down or archived or something. I understand rules but it's a shame when they become suicide pacts.TheRegicider (talk) 07:58, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Additional information needed. I need some evidence to suggest that sockpuppets have been used abusively.
Sam Korn
(smoddy) 09:13, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
He is a very POV editor.
(POV/COI) * here[ [7]] theregicider says it's 'retarded' for a certain blog to be removed from Tucker Max. an RfC had to be filed to get the blog removed. If you click the link of the blog, Ryan Holiday User:RyanHoliday turns out to be the author of the article -- TheRegicider's sock. User:Svernon19 was the one who introduced the blog to the article to begin with, and also argued for its inclusion. this is one of the reasons why svernon19 appears to be in cahoots with TheRegicider, besides the fact that svernon19 is a blatant SPA who only POV edits on Tucker Max
(POV/COI) * [ [8]] here he calls a new editor a vandal when it was actually a content dispute on his boss's article Tucker Max (he's been editing since 2006 - he should know what vandalism is)
(POV/COI) * [ [9]] here he reverts a content dispute as 'vandalism' on Tucker Max again
There are more. His editing of his boss's article Tucker Max has been tendentious and never NPOV. He and another SPA, listed above, have been working in tandem to keep his boss's article how they want it - and they launch personal attacks against anyone who opposes them Theserialcomma ( talk) 20:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
In light of this, I am adding more evidence:
I came here from http://www.violentacres.com/archives/386/ryan-holiday-is-a-really-private-person I just wanted to say, as a neophyte to Wikipedia, I looked the publicly available evidence presented here and I believe that svernon19 is definitely working in tandem w/TheRegicider to put a positive spin on Tucker Max, and a negative spin on anyone who opposes them. Watching Svernon19 and TheRegicider attempt character assasination against serialComma because he collected some evidence is just insane. I am surprised there are not rules against this type of behavior, and I'm surprised it's allowed to continue . The violentacres post points out what a hypocrite Ryan is, since he 'outed' this anonymous blogger on his website, yet he is crying about being 'outed' on wikipedia since he is such a private person -- such a private person whose website has his full name on it. Regicider and svernen, stop trying to manipulate the facts. It isn't working. Just sttick to the facts and Not character assassination. This is supposed to be a reliable source of knowledge, not a place for your Insults. Oh And Svernon19, How do you know TheRegicider and Ryan Holiday have cancellled his account? The wikipedia page does not show any such cancellation. As far as we know, he just claims to have cancelled it . But, maybe you have some insider information? Maybe since you know him, he told you the details. You just busted your self. Oh and SVernon, I see in your HIstory that you just notified McJeff about this in order to coax him into further insulting and attacking Serial. How many people else are you going to contact to drum up support against the person who filed this report? I await for McJeff's attack to follow shortly
Note: Bickering on checkuser case pages does nothing apart from get checkusers angry. Also, theserialcomma might want to consider the methods with which he is refuting the accusations, as he's doing it in a manner highly indicative of serial sockpuppeteers, by telling people they're "very disturbing" but provding very little constructive information. --
Deskana
(talk) 06:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
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ryanholiday mentions Seth Godin [ [4]] TheRegicider edits Dachshund [ [5]], ryanholiday blogs about his dachshund: [ [6]]. basically, anything TheRegicider edits, you can find ryan holiday blogging about on ryanholiday.net. also, ryan holiday has a habit of linking to his ad-filled website from wikipedia articles he edits (big time COI), and then he wrote an article on ryanholiday.net about how wikipedia is a good way to get traffic to your website. see: http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:ZhNFQn9IDVYJ:www.ryanholiday.net/archives/building_a_wikipedia_account.phtml+ryanholiday+wikipedia&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us since his website has tons of ads, you can easily conclude that he is profiting off his COI. Theserialcomma ( talk) 11:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
I have an account at my work computer and one at home/laptop. I'm honestly not very comfortable discussing my personal life here (nor do I on my website other than my name), it makes me feel a little violated to see this extensive backlog of research that this user has done especially considering my edits have been in good faith and taken up tons of my personal time. Is there probably a bit of conflict on me editing that article, yeah. If you'd like me to stop, I definitely will.
Regardless, I'd like to stress again that comments like this one that Theserialcomma left on my talk page make me very uncomfortable.
I will be filing an official report of this conflict of interest to the proper channels if we can't settle this informally. The uninvolved administrations will then make a decision based on the evidence which will either exonerate you or verify the conflict of interest. Please respond here and let me know how I shall proceed.
It also really sucks to see an abusive editor and generally destructive person post my personal details and estalk me because he so hates someone I had some affiliation with. Nevertheless, he wins. If at all possible, I'd like if this page could go away because it gives me the creeps. TheRegicider (talk) 05:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
I really like Wikipedia and have edited hundreds of articles. I've obviously made some mistakes but I think I've also worked really hard to research and come at things from new angles across subjects. I'll save everyone the trouble and just close my accounts. The whole thing makes me really queasy and uncomfortable so I will step away. Anyways, thanks to all. I apologize for any conflicts although not for the hatchet job posted above.
If I could, this page violates WP:OUTING and WP:HUSH and it would be very much appreciated if it could be taken down or archived or something. I understand rules but it's a shame when they become suicide pacts.TheRegicider (talk) 07:58, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Additional information needed. I need some evidence to suggest that sockpuppets have been used abusively.
Sam Korn
(smoddy) 09:13, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
He is a very POV editor.
(POV/COI) * here[ [7]] theregicider says it's 'retarded' for a certain blog to be removed from Tucker Max. an RfC had to be filed to get the blog removed. If you click the link of the blog, Ryan Holiday User:RyanHoliday turns out to be the author of the article -- TheRegicider's sock. User:Svernon19 was the one who introduced the blog to the article to begin with, and also argued for its inclusion. this is one of the reasons why svernon19 appears to be in cahoots with TheRegicider, besides the fact that svernon19 is a blatant SPA who only POV edits on Tucker Max
(POV/COI) * [ [8]] here he calls a new editor a vandal when it was actually a content dispute on his boss's article Tucker Max (he's been editing since 2006 - he should know what vandalism is)
(POV/COI) * [ [9]] here he reverts a content dispute as 'vandalism' on Tucker Max again
There are more. His editing of his boss's article Tucker Max has been tendentious and never NPOV. He and another SPA, listed above, have been working in tandem to keep his boss's article how they want it - and they launch personal attacks against anyone who opposes them Theserialcomma ( talk) 20:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
In light of this, I am adding more evidence:
I came here from http://www.violentacres.com/archives/386/ryan-holiday-is-a-really-private-person I just wanted to say, as a neophyte to Wikipedia, I looked the publicly available evidence presented here and I believe that svernon19 is definitely working in tandem w/TheRegicider to put a positive spin on Tucker Max, and a negative spin on anyone who opposes them. Watching Svernon19 and TheRegicider attempt character assasination against serialComma because he collected some evidence is just insane. I am surprised there are not rules against this type of behavior, and I'm surprised it's allowed to continue . The violentacres post points out what a hypocrite Ryan is, since he 'outed' this anonymous blogger on his website, yet he is crying about being 'outed' on wikipedia since he is such a private person -- such a private person whose website has his full name on it. Regicider and svernen, stop trying to manipulate the facts. It isn't working. Just sttick to the facts and Not character assassination. This is supposed to be a reliable source of knowledge, not a place for your Insults. Oh And Svernon19, How do you know TheRegicider and Ryan Holiday have cancellled his account? The wikipedia page does not show any such cancellation. As far as we know, he just claims to have cancelled it . But, maybe you have some insider information? Maybe since you know him, he told you the details. You just busted your self. Oh and SVernon, I see in your HIstory that you just notified McJeff about this in order to coax him into further insulting and attacking Serial. How many people else are you going to contact to drum up support against the person who filed this report? I await for McJeff's attack to follow shortly
Note: Bickering on checkuser case pages does nothing apart from get checkusers angry. Also, theserialcomma might want to consider the methods with which he is refuting the accusations, as he's doing it in a manner highly indicative of serial sockpuppeteers, by telling people they're "very disturbing" but provding very little constructive information. --
Deskana
(talk) 06:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)