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Jack forbes encountered me on a discussion at
Scotland, which then went over to
here. This discussion was over whether Scotland, England, Northern Ireland, and Wales should be called "constituent countries" or "countries". The term "countries" is considered to be a nationalist POV, and so the majority of people (74% of votes) decided "constituent country" over country should be used. However, Jack Forbes strongly opposed this, and decided to continue pushing the nationalist agenda (which becomes more obvious from looking at
this, where his user page originally showed strong Scottish pride and support for Scottish independance, and the fact he then removed this information
[1] after there were mentions on the UK discussion page of nationalist POV pushing, almost as if the user was trying to hide any motives he may have had).
As I spearheaded the discussions on the matter at United Kingdom, Jack Forbest became increasingly obsessed with me, and viewing the user's contributions, one can see that every single one of his edits from the 16th of June to today (the 21st of June) has been entirely about me, with not a single constructive edit between those dates.
Jack forbes has made many a personal attack against me recently, including calling me an "arsehole", "prick", "dickhead", "wee skinny arsehole", and telling me using Scottish slang he wishes to fight me:
User:Boilerman was created on the 17th of June (after the 16th of June, when Jack Forbes started to become obsessed with me), and edited their
first edit on the 20th (the date that Jack Forbes started calling me a "prick", "arsehole", "dickhead", etc), where they warned an IP for something (possibly used as a decoy), and then went on to make this (only other) edit:
[7] on the discussion at the UK page (where Jack Forbes and myself had both talked), and made yet another personal attack at me. The account seems single purpose, and somehow jumped into a massive conversation there, which Jack was involved with, and continued the Personal attacks against me that Jack started. It is therefore apparent that the user's editing is highly significant of Forbes', and I think a checkuser is in order.
The IP address has also made similar attacks ( [8], [9], [10]) at me, and edited Scotland on the 17th of June ( [11]) - again, significant with Jack's other activities.
I suspect the IP address to be a proxy, based on the sheer number of different edits from it, and this. It is therefore possible that Forbes was able to conceal his IP via this. If the proxy used was transparent, it may be possible to trace the underlying IP, but if not, then it may not be possible to show this.
Cheers Fone 4 Me 09:00, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
While I don't condone some of Jack's language it needs to be said that Fonez4mii is a provocative editor and it can be difficult to keep your cool. With only two months experience he has entered a controversial space and uses words like "spearheaded" and "assert". Any disagreement results in accusations that you have a nationalist POV regardless of the evidence. He is more circumspect that Jack in his language, but .... -- Snowded ( talk) 18:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Are you sure the latest IP you added is correct? It is located in Virgina (see the talk page). -- Cameron * 16:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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Jack forbes encountered me on a discussion at
Scotland, which then went over to
here. This discussion was over whether Scotland, England, Northern Ireland, and Wales should be called "constituent countries" or "countries". The term "countries" is considered to be a nationalist POV, and so the majority of people (74% of votes) decided "constituent country" over country should be used. However, Jack Forbes strongly opposed this, and decided to continue pushing the nationalist agenda (which becomes more obvious from looking at
this, where his user page originally showed strong Scottish pride and support for Scottish independance, and the fact he then removed this information
[1] after there were mentions on the UK discussion page of nationalist POV pushing, almost as if the user was trying to hide any motives he may have had).
As I spearheaded the discussions on the matter at United Kingdom, Jack Forbest became increasingly obsessed with me, and viewing the user's contributions, one can see that every single one of his edits from the 16th of June to today (the 21st of June) has been entirely about me, with not a single constructive edit between those dates.
Jack forbes has made many a personal attack against me recently, including calling me an "arsehole", "prick", "dickhead", "wee skinny arsehole", and telling me using Scottish slang he wishes to fight me:
User:Boilerman was created on the 17th of June (after the 16th of June, when Jack Forbes started to become obsessed with me), and edited their
first edit on the 20th (the date that Jack Forbes started calling me a "prick", "arsehole", "dickhead", etc), where they warned an IP for something (possibly used as a decoy), and then went on to make this (only other) edit:
[7] on the discussion at the UK page (where Jack Forbes and myself had both talked), and made yet another personal attack at me. The account seems single purpose, and somehow jumped into a massive conversation there, which Jack was involved with, and continued the Personal attacks against me that Jack started. It is therefore apparent that the user's editing is highly significant of Forbes', and I think a checkuser is in order.
The IP address has also made similar attacks ( [8], [9], [10]) at me, and edited Scotland on the 17th of June ( [11]) - again, significant with Jack's other activities.
I suspect the IP address to be a proxy, based on the sheer number of different edits from it, and this. It is therefore possible that Forbes was able to conceal his IP via this. If the proxy used was transparent, it may be possible to trace the underlying IP, but if not, then it may not be possible to show this.
Cheers Fone 4 Me 09:00, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
While I don't condone some of Jack's language it needs to be said that Fonez4mii is a provocative editor and it can be difficult to keep your cool. With only two months experience he has entered a controversial space and uses words like "spearheaded" and "assert". Any disagreement results in accusations that you have a nationalist POV regardless of the evidence. He is more circumspect that Jack in his language, but .... -- Snowded ( talk) 18:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Are you sure the latest IP you added is correct? It is located in Virgina (see the talk page). -- Cameron * 16:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)