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Posse72 had added exactly the same text Art Dominique has been trying to add via his army of sockpuppets all these years. After being reverted, he requested editor assistance claiming that a vandal is deleting "important fact coverd with tons of sources", which is untrue - the huge chunk of text never had a single source backing it up, ever since Art Dominique whipped it up in the first place back in 2006. This behavior is characteristic of Art Dominique, who often claimed things that were quite the opposite of truth ( example), but somewhat odd for Posse72, who is known to have revert warred to push the same POV as Art Dominique in the past (see the warnings on his talk page), but I don't recall him acting as Art Dominique's meatpuppet as he so openly does now. A checkuser was suggested to clarify the relation between Posse and Art Dominique, so here it goes. -- Illythr ( talk) 21:50, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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Nishkid64 (
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23:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a new batch of puppets from Art Dominique to continue edit warring in Continuation War. Tries to add disputed section Art Dominique tried to add at December 2006 to the Continuation War. Again. No edits in other articles. -- Whiskey ( talk) 07:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Inconclusive. Data unrelated (but vague)...but the duck test is compelling.
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Just a new puppet from Art Dominique to continue edit warring in Continuation War. Also vandalized my User page. Tries to add disputed section Art Dominique tried to add last December to the Continuation War. -- Whiskey 00:33, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Inconclusive. Appears unrelated, but the evidence is a bit stale. The logs suggest that they are not related.
Voice-of-All
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Continues edit warring in Continuation War. If you check contributions of above accounts, you notice that they have only been used for editing the Continuation War, and basically only adding disputed section Art Dominique tried to add last December. It seems that Art Dominique is back with new patch of sock puppets. -- Whiskey 23:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Confirmed.
Voice-of-All
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Continues edit warring in Continuation War. It seems that he creates new sock puppet as the older ones are closed, so soft protection isn't working. Is there any other way to protect the article without closing it from development? -- Whiskey 11:00, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Confirmed Nietjärvi and New York, NY.
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These were missed from the last request. (I was late by a few seconds.) Sockpuppet User:Huckleberry Hugo is active in disrupting Talk:Continuation War. -- Petri Krohn 23:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
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Back to edit warring in the Continuation War with comments of similar style than previous puppets. -- Whiskey 21:46, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
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The above suspected sockpuppets are all active on the Continuation War article and, after the article's protection, on its talk page. They have repeatedly inserted a large section (containing many unsourced claims and questionable scholarship, see dispute on the talk page for details) without seeking consensus with the rest of the editors. With the exception of 213.216.199.6, all are single-purpose accounts, contributing only to the Continuation war article or its related talk. User "Ahven is a fish" also had only a few minor contributions in three related articles.
Recently, several of these users have taken to attacking their opposition with various accusations of conspiracy, propaganda and sockpuppetry: [5], [6], [7], [8], as well as agreeing to each other, thus creating an impression of a "concerned majority" [9], [10], [11] etc.
It appears that Art Dominique, as well as two more IPs from this range (213.216.199.0 - 213.216.199.63) were already blocked as part of a sockpuppet army ( listed here) focusing on Finnish history last year.
The more "vocal" users (Nadja, Ahven Anno Domino and the IP) also share the same writing style, full of pathos, rhetorics and accusations. -- Illythr 14:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Clerk note: See
Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kven. The Kven-user, a person who edits from multiple short term sock accounts, is restricted to one account and may be banned from any article he disrupts. For more info and some old IPs see
User:Mikkalai/arkven#Alphabetic_list and
Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kven socks.
Thatcher131
06:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I tell you that my personality cannot be hidden under the name Art Dominique. My contributions here are minor ones. I have only supported Art Dominique and others who tell the truth. I have seen that Art Dominique works very hard to rectify some false beliefs about Continuation War. He uses much more historical references than his opponents in these pages. Do not prevent the truth come forth. - Masa62 12:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Confirmed the following accounts:
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Posse72 had added exactly the same text Art Dominique has been trying to add via his army of sockpuppets all these years. After being reverted, he requested editor assistance claiming that a vandal is deleting "important fact coverd with tons of sources", which is untrue - the huge chunk of text never had a single source backing it up, ever since Art Dominique whipped it up in the first place back in 2006. This behavior is characteristic of Art Dominique, who often claimed things that were quite the opposite of truth ( example), but somewhat odd for Posse72, who is known to have revert warred to push the same POV as Art Dominique in the past (see the warnings on his talk page), but I don't recall him acting as Art Dominique's meatpuppet as he so openly does now. A checkuser was suggested to clarify the relation between Posse and Art Dominique, so here it goes. -- Illythr ( talk) 21:50, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Posse72 (
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contribs) is operating from a different country than Art Dominique, so I'll say it's Unlikely.
Nishkid64 (
Make articles, not wikidrama)
23:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a new batch of puppets from Art Dominique to continue edit warring in Continuation War. Tries to add disputed section Art Dominique tried to add at December 2006 to the Continuation War. Again. No edits in other articles. -- Whiskey ( talk) 07:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Inconclusive. Data unrelated (but vague)...but the duck test is compelling.
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Just a new puppet from Art Dominique to continue edit warring in Continuation War. Also vandalized my User page. Tries to add disputed section Art Dominique tried to add last December to the Continuation War. -- Whiskey 00:33, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Inconclusive. Appears unrelated, but the evidence is a bit stale. The logs suggest that they are not related.
Voice-of-All
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Continues edit warring in Continuation War. If you check contributions of above accounts, you notice that they have only been used for editing the Continuation War, and basically only adding disputed section Art Dominique tried to add last December. It seems that Art Dominique is back with new patch of sock puppets. -- Whiskey 23:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Confirmed.
Voice-of-All
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Continues edit warring in Continuation War. It seems that he creates new sock puppet as the older ones are closed, so soft protection isn't working. Is there any other way to protect the article without closing it from development? -- Whiskey 11:00, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Confirmed Nietjärvi and New York, NY.
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These were missed from the last request. (I was late by a few seconds.) Sockpuppet User:Huckleberry Hugo is active in disrupting Talk:Continuation War. -- Petri Krohn 23:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
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Back to edit warring in the Continuation War with comments of similar style than previous puppets. -- Whiskey 21:46, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
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Prodego
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The above suspected sockpuppets are all active on the Continuation War article and, after the article's protection, on its talk page. They have repeatedly inserted a large section (containing many unsourced claims and questionable scholarship, see dispute on the talk page for details) without seeking consensus with the rest of the editors. With the exception of 213.216.199.6, all are single-purpose accounts, contributing only to the Continuation war article or its related talk. User "Ahven is a fish" also had only a few minor contributions in three related articles.
Recently, several of these users have taken to attacking their opposition with various accusations of conspiracy, propaganda and sockpuppetry: [5], [6], [7], [8], as well as agreeing to each other, thus creating an impression of a "concerned majority" [9], [10], [11] etc.
It appears that Art Dominique, as well as two more IPs from this range (213.216.199.0 - 213.216.199.63) were already blocked as part of a sockpuppet army ( listed here) focusing on Finnish history last year.
The more "vocal" users (Nadja, Ahven Anno Domino and the IP) also share the same writing style, full of pathos, rhetorics and accusations. -- Illythr 14:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Clerk note: See
Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Kven. The Kven-user, a person who edits from multiple short term sock accounts, is restricted to one account and may be banned from any article he disrupts. For more info and some old IPs see
User:Mikkalai/arkven#Alphabetic_list and
Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kven socks.
Thatcher131
06:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I tell you that my personality cannot be hidden under the name Art Dominique. My contributions here are minor ones. I have only supported Art Dominique and others who tell the truth. I have seen that Art Dominique works very hard to rectify some false beliefs about Continuation War. He uses much more historical references than his opponents in these pages. Do not prevent the truth come forth. - Masa62 12:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Confirmed the following accounts:
-- Mackensen (talk) 18:01, 4 January 2007 (UTC)