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In his response RPJ claims the following:
however, a the full section of the diff states:
Clearly, as shown above, when the full section is read it shows that the diff is an attempt to find some common ground between RPJ and myself and to move forward with editing the article productively. The backdrops of this diff was my frustation with being accused numerouse times by RPJ of bad faith editing. I do not deny a personal attack against RPJ, it was in response to his continuous trolling and false accusations.
Here are some of RPJ's anon contributions and identities
Anon identities:
These diffs show instances of RPJ's edit warring.
Joegoodfriend's first response
RPJ's lack of good faith response
Joegoodfriend's request for clarification of RPJ's position
RPJ's response. Note how he continuously changes the topic from the original issue, by constantly opening up new threads on the same topic. It is my opinion that is done in a bad faith attempt to mischaracterize editors motives.
Here is RPJ's edit count using Kate's Tool. It is clear from seeing his contributions and anon history that RPJ has only one purpose on Wikipedia.
The Clay Shaw dispute is a perfect example of the lack of good faith shown by RPJ and his refusal to follow NPOV in his edits. The discussion on the talk page can be found here. [11].It all started with this by RPJ. RPJ states as fact that Shaw had considerable contact with the CIA after the War. To support this statement he points to what he claims is "a press report by the CIA called: "The Lie That Linked CIA to the Kennedy Assassination"". The problem as I point out in my revert of this text is that the cite is actually an article by Max Holland, and in fact serves to debunk the Paese Sera article, which claimed that Shaw had CIA contacts.
In a remarkable show of bad faith, RPJ then responded on the talk page of the article with this, misstating my position, and ignoring the basis of my revert. When I try to tell RPJ this [12], he reasserts the false claim that his information is from the CIA. After another attempt at an explanation, RPJ refuses to attempt to reach consensus. I then broke down the basis of my objection here and point out clearly why RPJ's original edit is misleading. RPJ then responds as he usually does with a personal attack, and a blatant mistatement of my position. [13] Note that I never called for the deletion of any material. I only asked RPJ to present his information accurately and not to mislead readers with his POV slant. Yet, that didn't stop him from making his false accusation.
Fed up with these tactics by RPJ, and seeing discussion would get no further, I then initiated an RfC on the subject, hoping that other voices would help guide the way. At the conclusion of the RfC, it became apparent that my viewpoint was the majority one. However, RPJ, in a not suprising by now show of bad faith refused to concede that their was an RfC [14], claimed that noone agreed with me and that I was the one changing the subject. [15]. This is typical RPJ. RPJ has no understanding of consensus, and the community approach of Wikipedia.
Ramsquire (throw me a line) 23:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
RPJ repeats as a mantra that his pro-conspiracy viewpoint is the "majority viewpoint" and that editors who he alleges oppose him conform to a "minority viewpoint." However, this is not the case. As pointed out to RPJ, at the Village Pump [16] using public polls (in this case a three year old ABCNews Poll) to support his opinion, can be misleading to determine the majority viewpoint. The simple fact is, the mainstream view by experts in this area is that Oswald assassinated Kennedy, and was no patsy. Some experts believe there was also a conspiracy, but no one conspiracy scenario has gained a sizeable enough following to be anything more than tiny minority viewpoint. So although conspiracy in general is a significant minority viewpoint and must be represented in the articles (and they are), no specific conspiracy theory has reached that status by the experts in this area. The three year old poll on this subject that RPJ uses is the average American who have not done any research in the area, lacks a great deal of knowledge about the methods used by the Warren Commission, HSCA, forensics, and medical autopsies. This same average American may have had their views on the subject shaped by the movie "JFK", which has been thoroughly debunked by the JFK assassination community, in both conspiracy and anti-conspiracy circles, as abject fiction. Furthermore, RPJ uses this 3 year old poll as an excuse to bring in all manner of tiny minority viewpoints, which have no serious backing by experts in this area (e.g. FBI finding that CE 399 came from Kennedy not Connally, the Big Chin, and the Newman double). All this would be fine if RPJ had shown any concept of understanding these distinctions, like Joegoodfriend for example has, and shown a willingness to contribute to the project. He has not, and nothing from this Arbitration has shown that he ever will. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 01:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
In his statement RPJ, claims that he has not made personal attacks but has been the recipient of them. RPJ's claim that he has not made personal attacks is false as shown by the collection of diffs during this arbitration and by the preceding RfC. His claim is also impeached by his block log. Four out of his five blocks have been for trolling and personal attacks mainly against Gamaliel.
On the other hand, I have never denied a personal attack directed to RPJ. See here and above. I will lay out the leadup to my personal attack. User:Woohookitty had locked the JFK assassination page because of edit warring. I took this time to make out 10 improvements to the article once the page is unblocked. [17]. Mytwocents agreed with most of my list and made some recommendations to help implement the apparent consensus. RPJ responded with this. This response really bothered me because all Mytwocents offered to do was put a template stating the article was going to be overhauled. RPJ's insult was just unnecessary. So I defended Mytwocents with this edit. I guess my defense of Mytwocents enraged RPJ, because his next edits after that were all in an attempt to bait Gamaliel and myself. See [18], [19], [20] (this one was so over the top that he received a warning from Gamaliel. Here's his response), [21], and [22]. Unfortunately, that last one took me over the edge and I waded into the gutter and responded with this [23]. After attempting a cooling off period, I went to Mytwocents and asked him to make some changes, since I had previously violated WP:Civility and did not want to get blocked. In my request to Mytwocents, I gave some frank assessments of RPJ, with the supporting reasons for my beliefs. Please note, that after the two edits in question, I went right back to editing in a peaceable way even attempting again to reach out to one of RPJ's anon identities in an ill fated attempt to reach consensus. I have not personally attacked RPJ or anyone else at Wikipedia ever again, even though I have been baited by both Andreasegde (as shown here) and RPJ [24] since that time. The same cannot be said of RPJ. Whereas, I have freely admitted my mistakes, learned from them, and have not repeated them, RPJ continues to deny any mistakes, and shift the blame elsewhere. Finally, please note that none of the other editors invovled in this dispute have ever personally attacked RPJ. It says alot of Mytwocents, Gamaliel, and JimWae especially since they are the brunt of RPJ's most withering attacks. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 20:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The defending editor RPJ relies in part on the strong policy against blocking a logged in user that makes substantial contributions. It is controversial to block a valuable editor no matter what the reason given for the block. Defending editor RPJ has contributed over 3,500 words of information to the project that remain in the articles after very close scrutiny by other editors. While these contributions are concentrated in the Kennedy article, they also extend into other areas, and include over a dozen separate articles.
These contributions are largely in areas of high readership interest based on the ongoing new literature, media coverage and ongoing new information. Such interest is constantly being renewed by the constant release of newly declassified information being release by a special act of Congress. The project should not neglect updating this important area. The evidence is being accumulated to establish the above contributions and will be inserted here. [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42]
• There was a criminal conspiracy to murder the President. This viewpoint is reflected in the final Report of the House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1979 after a three year investigation. This viewpoint has majority support among 70% of the American public in 2003. [43]
• There is “an official cover-up” involving the murder of the president. This viewpoint is reflected by G. Robert Blakey the former counsel for the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
Significantly, the Warren Commission's conclusion that the agencies of the government co-operated with it is, in retrospect, not the truth. We also now know that the Agency [CIA] set up a process that could only have been designed to frustrate the ability of the committee in 1976-79 to obtain any information that might adversely affect the Agency.
Many have told me that the culture of the Agency is one of prevarication and dissimulation and that you cannot trust it or its people. Period. End of story. I am now in that camp. [44]
and a growing amount of evidentiary material being released by the HSCA [45]and Assassination Records Review Board. This viewpoint of "an official cover-up" has majority support among 68% of the American public in 2003. [46]
• The conclusion of the Warren Commission that Lee Oswald was a lone assassin. This viewpoint has minority support among 22% of the American public in 2003. [47]
• Lee Harvey Oswald did not participate in the plot to murder the President. This viewpoint was consistently voiced by Lee Oswald prior to his murder. This viewpoint has minority support among 7% of the American public in 2003. [48]
RPJ 18:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 17:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 18:46, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 01:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 10:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 01:30, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
The complaining editors engaged in a pattern of improper deletions over the last 12 months. These large number of deletions have kept the Kennedy assassination articles not only outdated but retaining errors in the text that reinforce the central theme that the Warren Report is substantially correct, and other evidence, opinions and findings are "nonsense."
Complaining editor Gamaliel's deletions: Revision as of 23:27, 20 June 2006 Gamaliel (npov, rm excess detail presented with a clear agenda) [61];Revision as of 18:04, 12 June 2006 Gamaliel (not true) [62]; Revision as of 02:48, 9 June 2006 m (Reverted edits by 204.14.241.188 (talk) to last version by Gamaliel) [63]; Revision as of 15:57, 10 June 2006 Gamaliel (pov plus restored abc news investigation removed without comment); Revision as of 06:53, 15 November 2006 Gamaliel; [64]; Revision as of 18:58, 9 November 2006 Gamaliel) m (Reverted edits by RPJ (talk) to last version by WODUP); Revision as of 18:04, 12 June 2006 (Gamaliel (the autopsy - not true) [65]; Revision as of 17:21, 1 November 2006 Gamaliel (rm cherry picked skeptic quote from intro - this doesn't belong here, places undue weight on one person's opinion, and the quote is from a probably unreliable source) [66]; ; Revision as of 19:16, 31 October 2006 Gamaliel (rv pov pushing) [67]; Revision as of 00:15, 30 October 2006 Gamaliel (rv conspiracy pov pushing) [68]; Revision as of 01:21, 12 October 2006 Gamaliel (External links - restoring one, removing one) [69]; ; Revision as of 04:07, 4 August 2006) Gamaliel (Recordings and recreations of the assassination - dictabelt) [70]; Revision as of 22:49, 20 July 2006 Gamaliel (the funeral section is not the proper place to push conspiracy theories. let's make this a description of the actual funeral and not of forensic evidence) [71]; Revision as of 13:55, 15 July 2006 \Gamaliel (rv to Mboverload) [72]; Revision as of 15:04, 14 July 2006 Gamaliel (The Carcano rifle - restored the changes undone by Dubc0724 while reverting the unrelated external links section) [73]; Revision as of 14:10, 14 July 2006 Gamaliel (rv - "the Panel's forensic photographic specialist considered this mark to be a random patterning sufficient to warrant a positive identification") [74]; ; Revision as of 16:39, 13 July 2006 Gamaliel (External links - rm single page Newman conspiracy theory) [75]; Revision as of 06:25, 1 November 2005Gamaliel m (Reverted edits by RPJ to last version by Wyss) [76] [77]; Revision as of 03:32, 26 November 2005 Gamaliel (rv speculation) [78]; Revision as of 06:25, 23 December 2005 Gamaliel(External links - pruning some links which seem too far off topic) [79]; Revision as of 02:16, 2 January 2006 Gamaliel (The rifle and Oswald’s marksmanship - rm innuendo and speculation [80]; Revision as of 21:43, 2 January 2006 Gamaliel m (Reverted edits by RPJ (talk) to last version by Gamaliel) [81] [82]; Revision as of 00:26, 5 January 2006 Gamaliel m (External links - a one page news article on a single documentary doesn't seem important enough to be linked here, esp. at the top) [83] ; Revision as of 19:29, 9 January 2006 Gamaliel m (Reverted edits by RPJ (talk) to last version by 83.253.17.157) [84]; Revision as of 02:59, 22 January 2006 Gamaliel m (Reverted edits by RPJ (talk) to last version by Palm dogg) [85]; Revision as of 19:36, 27 January 2006 Gamaliel (Talk | contribs) (rv - this is all a red herring, that's lovelady in those pics, he even later produced the shirt he was wearing in the pics) [86]; Revision as of 07:38, 11 January 2006 Gamaliel (rv to JimWae to remove the mauser nonsense and restore the picture caption, which is useful and informative) [87]; Revision as of 21:38, 30 January 2006 Gamaliel (Talk | contribs)(rv to Mytwocents) [88];Revision as of 01:38, 26 February 2006 Gamaliel m (Reverted edits by RPJ (talk) to last version by Grenavitar) [89];
Complaining editor Mytwocent's deletions:
In this revision, the complaining editor Mytwocents deleted about 50% of the entire article on the Warren Commission. Revision as of 05:09, 9 March 2006) Mytwocents (rv to cleaned up version) [90] RPJ 01:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Complaining editor Ramsquire's deletions:
Revision as of 23:56, 18 August 2006 Ramsquire (relevance and undue weight edit) [91];Revision as of 21:27, 12 October 2006) Ramsquire (rv link. No showing of notability of Michael Griffith. Griffith has published articles mainly in pro-conspiracy journals and also published four books on Mormonism.) [92];Revision as of 22:08, 5 July 2006 Ramsquire (cleanup... took out sections which seemed to be arguing a point instead of relaying facts.) [93]; Revision as of 21:27, 12 October 2006) Ramsquire (rv link. No showing of notability of Michael Griffith. Griffith has published articles mainly in pro-conspiracy journals and also published four books on Mormonism.) [94];
Any information about this program PBS Frontline:Oswald, the CIA,and Mexico City on PBS's FRONTLINE is repeatedly deleted. Even simple links to PBS program are deleted. [95]
This show contains new information relating to the assassination. Congress required the declassification of nearly all JFK assassination documents by way of federal law in 1992. [96] There is a phased release continuing until 2017. In 2003, FRONTLIINE presented a program covering some of the newly uncovered documents. Making the presentation was Dr. John Newman who is a professor of history and government at the University of Maryland. He is the author of JFK and Vietnam (1992) and Oswald and the CIA (1995). He was called to testify on the JFK records releases by Congressional oversight committees and assisted the Assassination Records Review Board in securing U.S. Army and other government records. Newman was a consultant for FRONTLINE's "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? "
Here is a sample of the information the show provides:
At 10:00 am on Saturday, November 23, President Johnson asked FBI Director Hoover if there was anything new concerning Oswald's visit in Mexico City (it's unclear when Johnson first had learned of the Mexico City visit). It was at this point - just hours fn22 after the assassination-- that Hoover told Johnson about the Kostikov link and that it was not Oswald's voice on the tape; he had been impersonated. fn23
Over at the Justice Department, with Attorney General Robert Kennedy in mourning that weekend, Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach handled the case. He met with Hoover on Sunday, shortly after Jack Ruby had killed Oswald. Katzenbach then prepared a memo for Johnson's top aide, Bill Moyers, stating that the public had to be "satisfied" that Oswald had acted alone and that the "evidence" would have convicted him at a trial.
Katzenbach warned that speculation about Oswald's motive had to be "cut off" and that the thought that the assassination was a communist conspiracy or a "right-wing conspiracy to blame it on the communists" had to be rebutted.fn24 After the Sunday meeting Hoover observed, "The thing I am concerned about, and so is Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin." Fn25 PBS Frontline:Oswald, the CIA,and Mexico City
The defending editor has tried to put in some of this information in the JFK assassination articles, but it has met with deletions. As pointed out above, even the link was deleted. RPJ 00:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 21:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 22:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Complaining editor Mytwocents says of another editor in another totally separate article: "[Y]ou assume bad faith, the issue is not proof, it's NPOV. We determine that by consensus. We can also be bold and make edits without fear. Accusing me of vandalism is just plain wrong. Any editor, can make an NPOV at any time. That's what I did." [105] RPJ 22:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Over a year ago, on November 15, 2005, [106]someone inserted false information about the late Dr, Shoemaker in his biography about him conducting ballistics tests in the mid 1960's on human skulls filled with simulated brain tissue by shooting rifle bullets at the skulls. The purpose of this macabre test was supposed to prove that a skull "recoils" towards the person shooting when a human skull is hit by the bullet.
These supposed experiments by Dr. Shoemaker were supposed to support the "lone gunman" theory and explain why when the lone gunman was shooting from behind the president, the president's head and body went violently backwards (towards Oswald) upon being fatally wounded to the head. This violent backward movement of the fatal head shot created a national uproar when the famous Zapruder film leaked to the public and the public, in large numbers, started doubting the Warren Report.
At the same time as the false information was placed in Dr. Shoemaker’s biography, someone posted Dr. Shoemaker's name as the expert who proved the "skull-recoil" theory on Wikipedia's Kennedy Assassination site. [107] Then the Kennedy site was linked [108]to Dr. Shoemaker’s biography so the reader could see that the information was purportedly true because Dr. Shoemaker purportedly experimented and proved human skull recoils towards the shooter when the bullet hits the skull. When this was bought to the attention of editors familiar with Dr. Shoemaker, [109] the false information was taken out on November 19, 2005. [110]
Complaining editor Mytwocents then re-inserted the false information a year later into the Shoemaker biography [111] again with no citation. (See workshop) RPJ 18:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC) RPJ 07:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
SBHarriss provided a lengthy opening statement against defending editor RPJ in support of penalizing RPJ. His more recent comments provide clear evidence of his lack of good judgment, and that his opinions be weighed cautiously. This complaining editor states this when discussing the fact that he is part of a small minority (22% of the public) that still believes in the Warren Report as opposed to 70% who don't believe it: "I'm proud to be in a minority, when the majority is objectively clueless and ignorant, due to lack of study. [112]
RPJ has been pushing the theory of one John Newman, who posits based on his interpretation of CIA material, that "someone impersonated Oswald in phone calls made to the Soviet embassy and the Cuban consulate and linked Oswald to a known KGB assassin". RPJ has repeatedly inserted this theory as fact in several articles. Newman explains his theory on this page, one page of many in an extensive suplimentary website for the PBS Frontline program "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?", including a section titled "Conspiracy: Cases for and Against". The website has much material not presented in the program and clearly marked as the opinion of particular individuals such as Newman, but RPJ has repeatedly presented the material as if it was reported as fact on the Frontline program and has presented no evidence that the Newman theory is accepted by any credentialed authority except Newman.
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In his response RPJ claims the following:
however, a the full section of the diff states:
Clearly, as shown above, when the full section is read it shows that the diff is an attempt to find some common ground between RPJ and myself and to move forward with editing the article productively. The backdrops of this diff was my frustation with being accused numerouse times by RPJ of bad faith editing. I do not deny a personal attack against RPJ, it was in response to his continuous trolling and false accusations.
Here are some of RPJ's anon contributions and identities
Anon identities:
These diffs show instances of RPJ's edit warring.
Joegoodfriend's first response
RPJ's lack of good faith response
Joegoodfriend's request for clarification of RPJ's position
RPJ's response. Note how he continuously changes the topic from the original issue, by constantly opening up new threads on the same topic. It is my opinion that is done in a bad faith attempt to mischaracterize editors motives.
Here is RPJ's edit count using Kate's Tool. It is clear from seeing his contributions and anon history that RPJ has only one purpose on Wikipedia.
The Clay Shaw dispute is a perfect example of the lack of good faith shown by RPJ and his refusal to follow NPOV in his edits. The discussion on the talk page can be found here. [11].It all started with this by RPJ. RPJ states as fact that Shaw had considerable contact with the CIA after the War. To support this statement he points to what he claims is "a press report by the CIA called: "The Lie That Linked CIA to the Kennedy Assassination"". The problem as I point out in my revert of this text is that the cite is actually an article by Max Holland, and in fact serves to debunk the Paese Sera article, which claimed that Shaw had CIA contacts.
In a remarkable show of bad faith, RPJ then responded on the talk page of the article with this, misstating my position, and ignoring the basis of my revert. When I try to tell RPJ this [12], he reasserts the false claim that his information is from the CIA. After another attempt at an explanation, RPJ refuses to attempt to reach consensus. I then broke down the basis of my objection here and point out clearly why RPJ's original edit is misleading. RPJ then responds as he usually does with a personal attack, and a blatant mistatement of my position. [13] Note that I never called for the deletion of any material. I only asked RPJ to present his information accurately and not to mislead readers with his POV slant. Yet, that didn't stop him from making his false accusation.
Fed up with these tactics by RPJ, and seeing discussion would get no further, I then initiated an RfC on the subject, hoping that other voices would help guide the way. At the conclusion of the RfC, it became apparent that my viewpoint was the majority one. However, RPJ, in a not suprising by now show of bad faith refused to concede that their was an RfC [14], claimed that noone agreed with me and that I was the one changing the subject. [15]. This is typical RPJ. RPJ has no understanding of consensus, and the community approach of Wikipedia.
Ramsquire (throw me a line) 23:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
RPJ repeats as a mantra that his pro-conspiracy viewpoint is the "majority viewpoint" and that editors who he alleges oppose him conform to a "minority viewpoint." However, this is not the case. As pointed out to RPJ, at the Village Pump [16] using public polls (in this case a three year old ABCNews Poll) to support his opinion, can be misleading to determine the majority viewpoint. The simple fact is, the mainstream view by experts in this area is that Oswald assassinated Kennedy, and was no patsy. Some experts believe there was also a conspiracy, but no one conspiracy scenario has gained a sizeable enough following to be anything more than tiny minority viewpoint. So although conspiracy in general is a significant minority viewpoint and must be represented in the articles (and they are), no specific conspiracy theory has reached that status by the experts in this area. The three year old poll on this subject that RPJ uses is the average American who have not done any research in the area, lacks a great deal of knowledge about the methods used by the Warren Commission, HSCA, forensics, and medical autopsies. This same average American may have had their views on the subject shaped by the movie "JFK", which has been thoroughly debunked by the JFK assassination community, in both conspiracy and anti-conspiracy circles, as abject fiction. Furthermore, RPJ uses this 3 year old poll as an excuse to bring in all manner of tiny minority viewpoints, which have no serious backing by experts in this area (e.g. FBI finding that CE 399 came from Kennedy not Connally, the Big Chin, and the Newman double). All this would be fine if RPJ had shown any concept of understanding these distinctions, like Joegoodfriend for example has, and shown a willingness to contribute to the project. He has not, and nothing from this Arbitration has shown that he ever will. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 01:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
In his statement RPJ, claims that he has not made personal attacks but has been the recipient of them. RPJ's claim that he has not made personal attacks is false as shown by the collection of diffs during this arbitration and by the preceding RfC. His claim is also impeached by his block log. Four out of his five blocks have been for trolling and personal attacks mainly against Gamaliel.
On the other hand, I have never denied a personal attack directed to RPJ. See here and above. I will lay out the leadup to my personal attack. User:Woohookitty had locked the JFK assassination page because of edit warring. I took this time to make out 10 improvements to the article once the page is unblocked. [17]. Mytwocents agreed with most of my list and made some recommendations to help implement the apparent consensus. RPJ responded with this. This response really bothered me because all Mytwocents offered to do was put a template stating the article was going to be overhauled. RPJ's insult was just unnecessary. So I defended Mytwocents with this edit. I guess my defense of Mytwocents enraged RPJ, because his next edits after that were all in an attempt to bait Gamaliel and myself. See [18], [19], [20] (this one was so over the top that he received a warning from Gamaliel. Here's his response), [21], and [22]. Unfortunately, that last one took me over the edge and I waded into the gutter and responded with this [23]. After attempting a cooling off period, I went to Mytwocents and asked him to make some changes, since I had previously violated WP:Civility and did not want to get blocked. In my request to Mytwocents, I gave some frank assessments of RPJ, with the supporting reasons for my beliefs. Please note, that after the two edits in question, I went right back to editing in a peaceable way even attempting again to reach out to one of RPJ's anon identities in an ill fated attempt to reach consensus. I have not personally attacked RPJ or anyone else at Wikipedia ever again, even though I have been baited by both Andreasegde (as shown here) and RPJ [24] since that time. The same cannot be said of RPJ. Whereas, I have freely admitted my mistakes, learned from them, and have not repeated them, RPJ continues to deny any mistakes, and shift the blame elsewhere. Finally, please note that none of the other editors invovled in this dispute have ever personally attacked RPJ. It says alot of Mytwocents, Gamaliel, and JimWae especially since they are the brunt of RPJ's most withering attacks. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 20:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The defending editor RPJ relies in part on the strong policy against blocking a logged in user that makes substantial contributions. It is controversial to block a valuable editor no matter what the reason given for the block. Defending editor RPJ has contributed over 3,500 words of information to the project that remain in the articles after very close scrutiny by other editors. While these contributions are concentrated in the Kennedy article, they also extend into other areas, and include over a dozen separate articles.
These contributions are largely in areas of high readership interest based on the ongoing new literature, media coverage and ongoing new information. Such interest is constantly being renewed by the constant release of newly declassified information being release by a special act of Congress. The project should not neglect updating this important area. The evidence is being accumulated to establish the above contributions and will be inserted here. [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42]
• There was a criminal conspiracy to murder the President. This viewpoint is reflected in the final Report of the House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1979 after a three year investigation. This viewpoint has majority support among 70% of the American public in 2003. [43]
• There is “an official cover-up” involving the murder of the president. This viewpoint is reflected by G. Robert Blakey the former counsel for the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
Significantly, the Warren Commission's conclusion that the agencies of the government co-operated with it is, in retrospect, not the truth. We also now know that the Agency [CIA] set up a process that could only have been designed to frustrate the ability of the committee in 1976-79 to obtain any information that might adversely affect the Agency.
Many have told me that the culture of the Agency is one of prevarication and dissimulation and that you cannot trust it or its people. Period. End of story. I am now in that camp. [44]
and a growing amount of evidentiary material being released by the HSCA [45]and Assassination Records Review Board. This viewpoint of "an official cover-up" has majority support among 68% of the American public in 2003. [46]
• The conclusion of the Warren Commission that Lee Oswald was a lone assassin. This viewpoint has minority support among 22% of the American public in 2003. [47]
• Lee Harvey Oswald did not participate in the plot to murder the President. This viewpoint was consistently voiced by Lee Oswald prior to his murder. This viewpoint has minority support among 7% of the American public in 2003. [48]
RPJ 18:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 17:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 18:46, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 01:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 10:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 01:30, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
The complaining editors engaged in a pattern of improper deletions over the last 12 months. These large number of deletions have kept the Kennedy assassination articles not only outdated but retaining errors in the text that reinforce the central theme that the Warren Report is substantially correct, and other evidence, opinions and findings are "nonsense."
Complaining editor Gamaliel's deletions: Revision as of 23:27, 20 June 2006 Gamaliel (npov, rm excess detail presented with a clear agenda) [61];Revision as of 18:04, 12 June 2006 Gamaliel (not true) [62]; Revision as of 02:48, 9 June 2006 m (Reverted edits by 204.14.241.188 (talk) to last version by Gamaliel) [63]; Revision as of 15:57, 10 June 2006 Gamaliel (pov plus restored abc news investigation removed without comment); Revision as of 06:53, 15 November 2006 Gamaliel; [64]; Revision as of 18:58, 9 November 2006 Gamaliel) m (Reverted edits by RPJ (talk) to last version by WODUP); Revision as of 18:04, 12 June 2006 (Gamaliel (the autopsy - not true) [65]; Revision as of 17:21, 1 November 2006 Gamaliel (rm cherry picked skeptic quote from intro - this doesn't belong here, places undue weight on one person's opinion, and the quote is from a probably unreliable source) [66]; ; Revision as of 19:16, 31 October 2006 Gamaliel (rv pov pushing) [67]; Revision as of 00:15, 30 October 2006 Gamaliel (rv conspiracy pov pushing) [68]; Revision as of 01:21, 12 October 2006 Gamaliel (External links - restoring one, removing one) [69]; ; Revision as of 04:07, 4 August 2006) Gamaliel (Recordings and recreations of the assassination - dictabelt) [70]; Revision as of 22:49, 20 July 2006 Gamaliel (the funeral section is not the proper place to push conspiracy theories. let's make this a description of the actual funeral and not of forensic evidence) [71]; Revision as of 13:55, 15 July 2006 \Gamaliel (rv to Mboverload) [72]; Revision as of 15:04, 14 July 2006 Gamaliel (The Carcano rifle - restored the changes undone by Dubc0724 while reverting the unrelated external links section) [73]; Revision as of 14:10, 14 July 2006 Gamaliel (rv - "the Panel's forensic photographic specialist considered this mark to be a random patterning sufficient to warrant a positive identification") [74]; ; Revision as of 16:39, 13 July 2006 Gamaliel (External links - rm single page Newman conspiracy theory) [75]; Revision as of 06:25, 1 November 2005Gamaliel m (Reverted edits by RPJ to last version by Wyss) [76] [77]; Revision as of 03:32, 26 November 2005 Gamaliel (rv speculation) [78]; Revision as of 06:25, 23 December 2005 Gamaliel(External links - pruning some links which seem too far off topic) [79]; Revision as of 02:16, 2 January 2006 Gamaliel (The rifle and Oswald’s marksmanship - rm innuendo and speculation [80]; Revision as of 21:43, 2 January 2006 Gamaliel m (Reverted edits by RPJ (talk) to last version by Gamaliel) [81] [82]; Revision as of 00:26, 5 January 2006 Gamaliel m (External links - a one page news article on a single documentary doesn't seem important enough to be linked here, esp. at the top) [83] ; Revision as of 19:29, 9 January 2006 Gamaliel m (Reverted edits by RPJ (talk) to last version by 83.253.17.157) [84]; Revision as of 02:59, 22 January 2006 Gamaliel m (Reverted edits by RPJ (talk) to last version by Palm dogg) [85]; Revision as of 19:36, 27 January 2006 Gamaliel (Talk | contribs) (rv - this is all a red herring, that's lovelady in those pics, he even later produced the shirt he was wearing in the pics) [86]; Revision as of 07:38, 11 January 2006 Gamaliel (rv to JimWae to remove the mauser nonsense and restore the picture caption, which is useful and informative) [87]; Revision as of 21:38, 30 January 2006 Gamaliel (Talk | contribs)(rv to Mytwocents) [88];Revision as of 01:38, 26 February 2006 Gamaliel m (Reverted edits by RPJ (talk) to last version by Grenavitar) [89];
Complaining editor Mytwocent's deletions:
In this revision, the complaining editor Mytwocents deleted about 50% of the entire article on the Warren Commission. Revision as of 05:09, 9 March 2006) Mytwocents (rv to cleaned up version) [90] RPJ 01:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Complaining editor Ramsquire's deletions:
Revision as of 23:56, 18 August 2006 Ramsquire (relevance and undue weight edit) [91];Revision as of 21:27, 12 October 2006) Ramsquire (rv link. No showing of notability of Michael Griffith. Griffith has published articles mainly in pro-conspiracy journals and also published four books on Mormonism.) [92];Revision as of 22:08, 5 July 2006 Ramsquire (cleanup... took out sections which seemed to be arguing a point instead of relaying facts.) [93]; Revision as of 21:27, 12 October 2006) Ramsquire (rv link. No showing of notability of Michael Griffith. Griffith has published articles mainly in pro-conspiracy journals and also published four books on Mormonism.) [94];
Any information about this program PBS Frontline:Oswald, the CIA,and Mexico City on PBS's FRONTLINE is repeatedly deleted. Even simple links to PBS program are deleted. [95]
This show contains new information relating to the assassination. Congress required the declassification of nearly all JFK assassination documents by way of federal law in 1992. [96] There is a phased release continuing until 2017. In 2003, FRONTLIINE presented a program covering some of the newly uncovered documents. Making the presentation was Dr. John Newman who is a professor of history and government at the University of Maryland. He is the author of JFK and Vietnam (1992) and Oswald and the CIA (1995). He was called to testify on the JFK records releases by Congressional oversight committees and assisted the Assassination Records Review Board in securing U.S. Army and other government records. Newman was a consultant for FRONTLINE's "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? "
Here is a sample of the information the show provides:
At 10:00 am on Saturday, November 23, President Johnson asked FBI Director Hoover if there was anything new concerning Oswald's visit in Mexico City (it's unclear when Johnson first had learned of the Mexico City visit). It was at this point - just hours fn22 after the assassination-- that Hoover told Johnson about the Kostikov link and that it was not Oswald's voice on the tape; he had been impersonated. fn23
Over at the Justice Department, with Attorney General Robert Kennedy in mourning that weekend, Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach handled the case. He met with Hoover on Sunday, shortly after Jack Ruby had killed Oswald. Katzenbach then prepared a memo for Johnson's top aide, Bill Moyers, stating that the public had to be "satisfied" that Oswald had acted alone and that the "evidence" would have convicted him at a trial.
Katzenbach warned that speculation about Oswald's motive had to be "cut off" and that the thought that the assassination was a communist conspiracy or a "right-wing conspiracy to blame it on the communists" had to be rebutted.fn24 After the Sunday meeting Hoover observed, "The thing I am concerned about, and so is Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin." Fn25 PBS Frontline:Oswald, the CIA,and Mexico City
The defending editor has tried to put in some of this information in the JFK assassination articles, but it has met with deletions. As pointed out above, even the link was deleted. RPJ 00:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 21:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
RPJ 22:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Complaining editor Mytwocents says of another editor in another totally separate article: "[Y]ou assume bad faith, the issue is not proof, it's NPOV. We determine that by consensus. We can also be bold and make edits without fear. Accusing me of vandalism is just plain wrong. Any editor, can make an NPOV at any time. That's what I did." [105] RPJ 22:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Over a year ago, on November 15, 2005, [106]someone inserted false information about the late Dr, Shoemaker in his biography about him conducting ballistics tests in the mid 1960's on human skulls filled with simulated brain tissue by shooting rifle bullets at the skulls. The purpose of this macabre test was supposed to prove that a skull "recoils" towards the person shooting when a human skull is hit by the bullet.
These supposed experiments by Dr. Shoemaker were supposed to support the "lone gunman" theory and explain why when the lone gunman was shooting from behind the president, the president's head and body went violently backwards (towards Oswald) upon being fatally wounded to the head. This violent backward movement of the fatal head shot created a national uproar when the famous Zapruder film leaked to the public and the public, in large numbers, started doubting the Warren Report.
At the same time as the false information was placed in Dr. Shoemaker’s biography, someone posted Dr. Shoemaker's name as the expert who proved the "skull-recoil" theory on Wikipedia's Kennedy Assassination site. [107] Then the Kennedy site was linked [108]to Dr. Shoemaker’s biography so the reader could see that the information was purportedly true because Dr. Shoemaker purportedly experimented and proved human skull recoils towards the shooter when the bullet hits the skull. When this was bought to the attention of editors familiar with Dr. Shoemaker, [109] the false information was taken out on November 19, 2005. [110]
Complaining editor Mytwocents then re-inserted the false information a year later into the Shoemaker biography [111] again with no citation. (See workshop) RPJ 18:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC) RPJ 07:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
SBHarriss provided a lengthy opening statement against defending editor RPJ in support of penalizing RPJ. His more recent comments provide clear evidence of his lack of good judgment, and that his opinions be weighed cautiously. This complaining editor states this when discussing the fact that he is part of a small minority (22% of the public) that still believes in the Warren Report as opposed to 70% who don't believe it: "I'm proud to be in a minority, when the majority is objectively clueless and ignorant, due to lack of study. [112]
RPJ has been pushing the theory of one John Newman, who posits based on his interpretation of CIA material, that "someone impersonated Oswald in phone calls made to the Soviet embassy and the Cuban consulate and linked Oswald to a known KGB assassin". RPJ has repeatedly inserted this theory as fact in several articles. Newman explains his theory on this page, one page of many in an extensive suplimentary website for the PBS Frontline program "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?", including a section titled "Conspiracy: Cases for and Against". The website has much material not presented in the program and clearly marked as the opinion of particular individuals such as Newman, but RPJ has repeatedly presented the material as if it was reported as fact on the Frontline program and has presented no evidence that the Newman theory is accepted by any credentialed authority except Newman.