final (60/0/0) ending 13:15 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Deathphoenix (
talk·contribs) – I have had the pleasure of working with
Deathphoenix for several months now. I was introduced to him through our mutual interest in the
Harry Potter WikiProject, and I have continued to encounter him contributing positively throughout the encyclopedia. Deathphoenix has been active on Wikipedia since December 2004, currently has over 4,500
edits, and also maintains accounts on
Meta,
Wiktionary,
WikiBooks,
Ultronomicon, and
Memory Alpha. Deathphoenix has actively participated in AfD, Deletion Review, Village Pump, WP:AN/I, VIP, and RfA discussion, vandalism reversion, and contributes frequently to Barnstar discussion. He is very familiar with copyright issues, and his knowledge of these areas is of great value. He is also very active in contributing to Wikipedia's information on topics pertaining to Canada. It is my sincere pleasure to nominate Deathphoenix for Adminship.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 17:59, 15 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
I accept. Thank you very much! I think it's a great day when Evil votes for Death. --
Deathphoenix 04:22, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support
Support seen him around and was impressed.
Gator(talk) 13:23, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Full support, per nom. -
Wezzo 14:11, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Can't think of a funny Support line support. --
Kunal(talk) 15:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support. Cue the cliché.
Hermione1980 15:11, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support Spooky username, will be a great addition.
Rx StrangeLove 19:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Edit conflict support. I've looked over some of his recent contributions, and it looks like he would be able to make good use of admin tools. --
Idont Havaname 19:56, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
More Edit Conflict Support even if this does add to the general phoenix
cabal. --
Syrthiss 20:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support, he's a good worker and I respect his judgment.
Dmcdevit·
t 20:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support. Evilphoenix nominating Deathphoenix? Coincidence... or something far more sinister? Anyway, I've seen him around, and he's a nice guy. —
JIP |
Talk 20:34, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Shoooo-in.
Jobe6 20:56, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Although I'm midly irritated by the lack of unicorns and werewolves in the cabal, another pheonix should be fine :).--
Sean|
Black 04:26, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
another phoenix? yea, okay, verily. This wikipedia needs more cowbells phoenices!Grutness...wha? 05:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support sure, looks good.
Croat Canuck 06:03, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support: --
Bhadani 11:35, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support per nominator Phoenix. Wow. How many phoenixes are there? --
a.n.o.n.y.mt 16:01, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Full Support looking good for ya. —
Moeε 16:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support I think the plural is pheoxen!
Grue 16:59, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support for great justice!
Mo0[
talk] 17:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support - Good vandal sniper. Decent sense of what is and is not appropriate for articles dealing with literature. Obviously careful about his edit summaries. I like his comments and his manner of dealing with people when I have viewed his edits in previous months. Nothing really negative strikes me about Deathphoenix, and he seems like the sort of person who will use admin tools for the greater good. --
P.MacUidhir(t)(c) 02:50, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support. Seen him before. Give him the mop and bucket! :D --
Andylkl[
talk! |
c ] 18:01, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support - he's done pretty much everything I think a potential admin should do (and none of the things they shouldn't do).
Raven4x4x 06:33, 19 December 2005 (UTC)reply
I wasn't sure what you were saying for a while until I noticed your edit summary. You are of course referring to
this conversation, but I had met Deathphoenix prior to that on the HP WikiProject.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 04:40, 20 December 2005 (UTC)reply
You may not know this, but the first time I encountered your username was in
this VfD. --
Deathphoenix 16:12, 21 December 2005 (UTC)reply
I didn't, and that's awesome. I hadn't ever noticed that comment either, I don't think I'd gone back to the discussion after voting on it. That was only my second week on the Wiki! I didn't realize we went that far back. All five Phoenixes? Where are the other Three? What are they? GoodPhoenix? LawfulPhoenix? ChaoticPhoenix? :-P
ËvilphoenixBurn! 22:43, 21 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support. Good and responsible contributor.
Sjakkalle(Check!) 08:20, 19 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support Very good editor who will make a good admin.
TMS63112 20:05, 19 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support Ditto above. --
Jbamb 02:51, 20 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support I thought s/he already WAS one...
ALKIVAR™ 08:39, 23 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support with fire --
Docask? 10:22, 23 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Last Minute Nominator Support. Just thought I'd throw one more in there.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 18:22, 23 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Oppose
Poor experience dealing with this user. Also, what does the user name refer to?
Everyking 05:35, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
I'm sure we'd all like to know what the poor experience was so we could consider it...
Dmcdevit·
t 06:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Probably related to
Ashlee Simpson or
Autobiography, though I have tried to be fair there. As for my name, the short answer would be that I love the phoenix myth, but many people often forget that in order for a phoenix to be born, that phoenix must die. To have life, you must have death. A longer answer would be that since I have seen my fair share of death from a young age (including one of my best friends when I was 11 or so), I am naturally quite interested in the subject. Also, I love the phoenix, and my favourite
BattleMech, by sheer coincidence, is the Phoenix Hawk (but not so much the Phoenix Hawk LAM). --
Deathphoenix 06:58, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
To be honest, my memory is a little hazy. I basically just remember a negative association with your user name. I'm sure an apology would be sufficient for me to withdraw my vote.
Everyking 04:29, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
I think it's a bit unusual to ask for an apology for something you can't remember. I don't mean that in any disrespect, I'm sure if Deathphoenix knew what had offended you he'd be willing to discuss it, ongoing RfA or not.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 04:42, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
I mean, just a general apology for fighting and all.
Everyking 05:18, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Sure thing. To be honest, I don't recall ever actually fighting you, but if I did, then I'm sorry, because that's not my way. This apology isn't to have you withdraw your vote, because it's your prerogative to vote in any way you want. My concern is that you feel slighted by my past actions, when I always strive to be fair and not vindictive. If I came across that way, I am sorry. --
Deathphoenix 06:27, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Fine, vote withdrawn.
Everyking 06:54, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Just want to note that I find an oppose vote based on something so vague as a 'recollection of a negative association' quite offensive and disruptive. I've seen it from Everyking several times before - it smacks of great immaturity, to say that you oppose someone's RFA because you think they might have been mean to you in some way at some time in the past. To demand an apology for imagined slights in return for changing a vote is not civil behaviour by a long stretch.
Worldtraveller 03:02, 20 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Neutral
Comments
Despite the similarity in our names, I assure you we are in fact different people.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 13:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
But are you both like, brothers or something? :) --
Andylkl[
talk! |
c ] 20:15, 20 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Nope, totally unrelated. We both just happen to like being immolated.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 20:26, 20 December 2005 (UTC)reply
The vote link is a redirect needs to be checked. I voted from the side edit box.--
Dakotate 01:19, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Questions for the candidate A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
Note: I would like to point out that I don't really do much with the other Wiki accounts except for Ultronomicon, which isn't affiliated with Wikimedia in any way. I am an admin there, though most of what I do as an admin is deleting copyvio/unsourced images and blocking spambots. --
Deathphoenix 04:22, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
A. I used to close votes back when the page was still called
WP:VFD/Old, and I'd like to contribute by closing votes on
WP:AFD/Old and
WP:MFD, this time for deletes as well as the keeps and merges. Despite my lack of recent activity there, I'm still quite familiar with the process, and I was willing to close some votes that were not so clear cut. After some experience, I'd also like to close votes on
WP:DR or fulfil any requests for the content of deleted articles for information purposes (I used to make many such requests before voting on that page).
Related to that, I'd also like to clear up
CSDs. I am quite familiar with most of the General-, Article-, and Redirect-related CSD specifications (though not so much with the others), and I know to report non-CSDs to
WP:AFD.
I've kept enough tabs on admin actions to know when a vandal block is appropriate, and for how long (depending on whether it's a school or AOL IP, for instance). I'd definitely make use of the rollback button and block vandals when they've continued vandalising shortly after a test3 or test4.
Beyond that, I'd like to gain more experience as an admin before I attempt other actions that require such experience.
2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
A. I freely admit to not writing works of brilliant prose, but I'm most proud of my moderate work on
Lutz Long (expanding it from a stub to a moderately-sized article),
Copeland (band) (rescuing it from a likely AfD to a workable article),
Gwen M. Boniface (my first try in writing a biographical article from scratch), and on the
Canadian elections charts (an effort started by another user to convert Canadian elections charts to a readable and consistent format).
I also put in a lot of time to
Harry Potter-related articles as a member of
its WikiProject, though my effort there is definitely not what you'd call brilliant prose. In this WikiProject, I am most proud of the efforts I put into shrinking down the large plot synopsis of
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince from 578 words to a much leaner 299. It's crept back up to almost 500 words again, but at least it is now (relatively) free of details that don't need to be in a short plot summary.
Outside of articles, I am especially proud of my work on the
RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar, which has seen quite a lot of use on Wikipedia.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A. I've gotten into plenty of situations that could become conflicts, but I don't think I've ever escalated to that level.
Iasson's probably the closest I've ever gotten to being truly annoyed at someone. I have rubbed more than a few people the wrong way with my recent efforts on the Harry Potter WikiProject when trying to remove fan-based detailed edits or speculation. If someone takes offense at my actions, I try to discuss the matter on the talk pages. If I perform an edit that another user reverts, but I disagree with that revert, I will not revert it back. Instead, I bring it up on the article talk page (in this, I try to adhere to the
WP:1RR guideline before I realised there even was a 1RR guideline). You'll more likely find me discussing my points on a talk page than getting into edit wars in the main articlespace.
Other than that, I always keep in mind that I don't own any edits I make, and that people editing my own edits are peer editors. Being a technical writer has given me some thick skin with respect to peer editors.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page.
final (60/0/0) ending 13:15 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Deathphoenix (
talk·contribs) – I have had the pleasure of working with
Deathphoenix for several months now. I was introduced to him through our mutual interest in the
Harry Potter WikiProject, and I have continued to encounter him contributing positively throughout the encyclopedia. Deathphoenix has been active on Wikipedia since December 2004, currently has over 4,500
edits, and also maintains accounts on
Meta,
Wiktionary,
WikiBooks,
Ultronomicon, and
Memory Alpha. Deathphoenix has actively participated in AfD, Deletion Review, Village Pump, WP:AN/I, VIP, and RfA discussion, vandalism reversion, and contributes frequently to Barnstar discussion. He is very familiar with copyright issues, and his knowledge of these areas is of great value. He is also very active in contributing to Wikipedia's information on topics pertaining to Canada. It is my sincere pleasure to nominate Deathphoenix for Adminship.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 17:59, 15 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
I accept. Thank you very much! I think it's a great day when Evil votes for Death. --
Deathphoenix 04:22, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support
Support seen him around and was impressed.
Gator(talk) 13:23, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Full support, per nom. -
Wezzo 14:11, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Can't think of a funny Support line support. --
Kunal(talk) 15:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support. Cue the cliché.
Hermione1980 15:11, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support Spooky username, will be a great addition.
Rx StrangeLove 19:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Edit conflict support. I've looked over some of his recent contributions, and it looks like he would be able to make good use of admin tools. --
Idont Havaname 19:56, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
More Edit Conflict Support even if this does add to the general phoenix
cabal. --
Syrthiss 20:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support, he's a good worker and I respect his judgment.
Dmcdevit·
t 20:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support. Evilphoenix nominating Deathphoenix? Coincidence... or something far more sinister? Anyway, I've seen him around, and he's a nice guy. —
JIP |
Talk 20:34, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Shoooo-in.
Jobe6 20:56, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Although I'm midly irritated by the lack of unicorns and werewolves in the cabal, another pheonix should be fine :).--
Sean|
Black 04:26, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
another phoenix? yea, okay, verily. This wikipedia needs more cowbells phoenices!Grutness...wha? 05:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support sure, looks good.
Croat Canuck 06:03, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support: --
Bhadani 11:35, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support per nominator Phoenix. Wow. How many phoenixes are there? --
a.n.o.n.y.mt 16:01, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Full Support looking good for ya. —
Moeε 16:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support I think the plural is pheoxen!
Grue 16:59, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support for great justice!
Mo0[
talk] 17:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support - Good vandal sniper. Decent sense of what is and is not appropriate for articles dealing with literature. Obviously careful about his edit summaries. I like his comments and his manner of dealing with people when I have viewed his edits in previous months. Nothing really negative strikes me about Deathphoenix, and he seems like the sort of person who will use admin tools for the greater good. --
P.MacUidhir(t)(c) 02:50, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support. Seen him before. Give him the mop and bucket! :D --
Andylkl[
talk! |
c ] 18:01, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support - he's done pretty much everything I think a potential admin should do (and none of the things they shouldn't do).
Raven4x4x 06:33, 19 December 2005 (UTC)reply
I wasn't sure what you were saying for a while until I noticed your edit summary. You are of course referring to
this conversation, but I had met Deathphoenix prior to that on the HP WikiProject.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 04:40, 20 December 2005 (UTC)reply
You may not know this, but the first time I encountered your username was in
this VfD. --
Deathphoenix 16:12, 21 December 2005 (UTC)reply
I didn't, and that's awesome. I hadn't ever noticed that comment either, I don't think I'd gone back to the discussion after voting on it. That was only my second week on the Wiki! I didn't realize we went that far back. All five Phoenixes? Where are the other Three? What are they? GoodPhoenix? LawfulPhoenix? ChaoticPhoenix? :-P
ËvilphoenixBurn! 22:43, 21 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support. Good and responsible contributor.
Sjakkalle(Check!) 08:20, 19 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support Very good editor who will make a good admin.
TMS63112 20:05, 19 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support Ditto above. --
Jbamb 02:51, 20 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support I thought s/he already WAS one...
ALKIVAR™ 08:39, 23 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Support with fire --
Docask? 10:22, 23 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Last Minute Nominator Support. Just thought I'd throw one more in there.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 18:22, 23 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Oppose
Poor experience dealing with this user. Also, what does the user name refer to?
Everyking 05:35, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
I'm sure we'd all like to know what the poor experience was so we could consider it...
Dmcdevit·
t 06:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Probably related to
Ashlee Simpson or
Autobiography, though I have tried to be fair there. As for my name, the short answer would be that I love the phoenix myth, but many people often forget that in order for a phoenix to be born, that phoenix must die. To have life, you must have death. A longer answer would be that since I have seen my fair share of death from a young age (including one of my best friends when I was 11 or so), I am naturally quite interested in the subject. Also, I love the phoenix, and my favourite
BattleMech, by sheer coincidence, is the Phoenix Hawk (but not so much the Phoenix Hawk LAM). --
Deathphoenix 06:58, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
To be honest, my memory is a little hazy. I basically just remember a negative association with your user name. I'm sure an apology would be sufficient for me to withdraw my vote.
Everyking 04:29, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
I think it's a bit unusual to ask for an apology for something you can't remember. I don't mean that in any disrespect, I'm sure if Deathphoenix knew what had offended you he'd be willing to discuss it, ongoing RfA or not.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 04:42, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
I mean, just a general apology for fighting and all.
Everyking 05:18, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Sure thing. To be honest, I don't recall ever actually fighting you, but if I did, then I'm sorry, because that's not my way. This apology isn't to have you withdraw your vote, because it's your prerogative to vote in any way you want. My concern is that you feel slighted by my past actions, when I always strive to be fair and not vindictive. If I came across that way, I am sorry. --
Deathphoenix 06:27, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Fine, vote withdrawn.
Everyking 06:54, 18 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Just want to note that I find an oppose vote based on something so vague as a 'recollection of a negative association' quite offensive and disruptive. I've seen it from Everyking several times before - it smacks of great immaturity, to say that you oppose someone's RFA because you think they might have been mean to you in some way at some time in the past. To demand an apology for imagined slights in return for changing a vote is not civil behaviour by a long stretch.
Worldtraveller 03:02, 20 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Neutral
Comments
Despite the similarity in our names, I assure you we are in fact different people.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 13:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
But are you both like, brothers or something? :) --
Andylkl[
talk! |
c ] 20:15, 20 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Nope, totally unrelated. We both just happen to like being immolated.
ËvilphoenixBurn! 20:26, 20 December 2005 (UTC)reply
The vote link is a redirect needs to be checked. I voted from the side edit box.--
Dakotate 01:19, 17 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Questions for the candidate A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
Note: I would like to point out that I don't really do much with the other Wiki accounts except for Ultronomicon, which isn't affiliated with Wikimedia in any way. I am an admin there, though most of what I do as an admin is deleting copyvio/unsourced images and blocking spambots. --
Deathphoenix 04:22, 16 December 2005 (UTC)reply
A. I used to close votes back when the page was still called
WP:VFD/Old, and I'd like to contribute by closing votes on
WP:AFD/Old and
WP:MFD, this time for deletes as well as the keeps and merges. Despite my lack of recent activity there, I'm still quite familiar with the process, and I was willing to close some votes that were not so clear cut. After some experience, I'd also like to close votes on
WP:DR or fulfil any requests for the content of deleted articles for information purposes (I used to make many such requests before voting on that page).
Related to that, I'd also like to clear up
CSDs. I am quite familiar with most of the General-, Article-, and Redirect-related CSD specifications (though not so much with the others), and I know to report non-CSDs to
WP:AFD.
I've kept enough tabs on admin actions to know when a vandal block is appropriate, and for how long (depending on whether it's a school or AOL IP, for instance). I'd definitely make use of the rollback button and block vandals when they've continued vandalising shortly after a test3 or test4.
Beyond that, I'd like to gain more experience as an admin before I attempt other actions that require such experience.
2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
A. I freely admit to not writing works of brilliant prose, but I'm most proud of my moderate work on
Lutz Long (expanding it from a stub to a moderately-sized article),
Copeland (band) (rescuing it from a likely AfD to a workable article),
Gwen M. Boniface (my first try in writing a biographical article from scratch), and on the
Canadian elections charts (an effort started by another user to convert Canadian elections charts to a readable and consistent format).
I also put in a lot of time to
Harry Potter-related articles as a member of
its WikiProject, though my effort there is definitely not what you'd call brilliant prose. In this WikiProject, I am most proud of the efforts I put into shrinking down the large plot synopsis of
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince from 578 words to a much leaner 299. It's crept back up to almost 500 words again, but at least it is now (relatively) free of details that don't need to be in a short plot summary.
Outside of articles, I am especially proud of my work on the
RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar, which has seen quite a lot of use on Wikipedia.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A. I've gotten into plenty of situations that could become conflicts, but I don't think I've ever escalated to that level.
Iasson's probably the closest I've ever gotten to being truly annoyed at someone. I have rubbed more than a few people the wrong way with my recent efforts on the Harry Potter WikiProject when trying to remove fan-based detailed edits or speculation. If someone takes offense at my actions, I try to discuss the matter on the talk pages. If I perform an edit that another user reverts, but I disagree with that revert, I will not revert it back. Instead, I bring it up on the article talk page (in this, I try to adhere to the
WP:1RR guideline before I realised there even was a 1RR guideline). You'll more likely find me discussing my points on a talk page than getting into edit wars in the main articlespace.
Other than that, I always keep in mind that I don't own any edits I make, and that people editing my own edits are peer editors. Being a technical writer has given me some thick skin with respect to peer editors.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page.