(24/5/4) ending 07:11, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
This user self nominated himself six weeks ago. He failed on the basis that he was too new with too few edits. Well time has passed, edit count has increased and CyborgTosser continues to make good solid contributions. He has asked me to renominate him, which I am very happy to do. His earlier request can be seen here
[Nominated by Theresa Knott]
User has 994 edits as of 07:23, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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[[User:CyborgTosser| CyborgTosser ( Only half the battle)]] 00:09, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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I am surprised to see such a sudden turn of events in the voting, but hopefully it is not too late to address some of your concerns.
To address Netoholic's concerns, first, I didn't bother explicitly accepting accepting because I thought it was clear from the nomination that this was something I asked for. Ok, that was a mistake, but I have now accepted, so I hope this will no longer be a concern. Second, the Questions for the candidate section was added recently, not when the nomination was first posted. My "lateness" in answering them should not be taken as a lack of initiative on my part, and if you were interested in my answers to these questions, you could have looked at my old request. But I will answer the questions again and hopefully that will no longer be a concern either.
Now, to answer Ruy Lopez, yes, recently my edits have often broken down into several edits on a single page. But if you examine my earlier edit history, you will see that I never did that before my self-nomination failed on the basis of too few edits. I have noticed that many users work like this, especially when writing a long page, and decided that perhaps my previous habit of writing a long page in a single go was giving a skewed picture of the significance of my contributions. Apparently, this has created the opposite problem, where people look at pages where I made 10 consecutive edits and assume "Oh, he must have only worked on 1000 / 10 = 100 pages". If edit count is important to you, please look at more than the first page of my edit history before jumping to conclusions.
I still maintain that the contributions I have made are significant, even if the edit count is low. And I don't understand the concerns about the areas where the majority of my edits have been made. It is entirely inaccurate to say that my edits have been in a few limited areas. That aside, perhaps you won't find much on electrical engineering, computer science, music, or movies in a normal encyclopedia. But this isn't a normal encyclopedia.
Finally, to answer Get-back-world-respect's question, I want to be an admin because admins are who other users come to when they need help resolving for example a POV dispute, want help with an article, or just want a more experienced user's opinion on what is good or bad for the encyclopedia. I feel I am qualified to do these things, and I would like the chance. Probably the biggest reason I have had little involvement in sensitive discussions is that, as a non-admin, no one has asked me to help. [[User:CyborgTosser| CyborgTosser ( Only half the battle)]] 00:01, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I was originally planning to abstain, but Ruy Lopez urged me to vote, and so I have. I'm giving CyborgTosser the benefit of the doubt, as I find his case to be very similar to mine when I nominated myself for adminship. I myself was and still am quite quiet on dealing with matters most associate with adminship (practically all the articles I'm known for today were written after I became an admin; I never had a single dispute with another user until after I became an admin). However, I see nothing wrong with supporting a decent user — this should be no big deal. I hope this will urge CyborgTosser to be more active in participating on Talk pages; if you haven't run into trouble yet, you will, so you should prepare now. A good admin doesn't need to use his powers; I haven't deleted an article for weeks, nor even blocked anyone yet, nor protected a page...I've made very sparing use of my admin powers. Adminship is a sign that this user is a good one; the responsibilities assigned to admins are just additional privileges, and not mandatory to be used. All this is just my opinion, but I see no good reason to oppose for now. Johnleemk | Talk 10:17, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Question for Ruy Lopez
Johnleenk's comment above made me wonder a little. Why did you urge him to vote on this issue? I checked you contributions and saw that you write this on several user pages:
Hi,I'm not sure if you've ever visited the Request for adminship page, but users can vote on which users get to be admins.
:One vote going on now is Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/CyborgTosser. I opposed his adminship because he doesn't have as many edits as most people need before getting to be admin (and much of them are things like 150+ edits of his own user page). But more importantly, I haven't seen him interacting much, and certainly have not seen him try to resolve something contentious like a Israel/Palestine page or something like that. Anyhow, if you're interested, give it a look. Ruy Lopez 19:27, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
You appear to be asking people who do not frequent this page to vote on this matter? Why? As far as i know people do not usually go around canvassing votes for or against candidates on this page. Why are you doing it? You have also updated the vote tally several times on this page. Why? You seem overly interested in the out come of this vote for a disinterested party. Also one last question - I've just seen this edit to Xed's talk page and cant help but wonder if you opposition to CyborgTosser has anything to do with the fact that I nominated him? Of course you have every right to be interested in the outcome of a particular vote and you have every right to oppose the nomination of anyone you please but canvassing for votes is not how we normally do things here. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 19:58, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
(24/5/4) ending 07:11, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
This user self nominated himself six weeks ago. He failed on the basis that he was too new with too few edits. Well time has passed, edit count has increased and CyborgTosser continues to make good solid contributions. He has asked me to renominate him, which I am very happy to do. His earlier request can be seen here
[Nominated by Theresa Knott]
User has 994 edits as of 07:23, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Support
Oppose
Neutral
Questions for the candidate
A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
[[User:CyborgTosser| CyborgTosser ( Only half the battle)]] 00:09, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Comments
I am surprised to see such a sudden turn of events in the voting, but hopefully it is not too late to address some of your concerns.
To address Netoholic's concerns, first, I didn't bother explicitly accepting accepting because I thought it was clear from the nomination that this was something I asked for. Ok, that was a mistake, but I have now accepted, so I hope this will no longer be a concern. Second, the Questions for the candidate section was added recently, not when the nomination was first posted. My "lateness" in answering them should not be taken as a lack of initiative on my part, and if you were interested in my answers to these questions, you could have looked at my old request. But I will answer the questions again and hopefully that will no longer be a concern either.
Now, to answer Ruy Lopez, yes, recently my edits have often broken down into several edits on a single page. But if you examine my earlier edit history, you will see that I never did that before my self-nomination failed on the basis of too few edits. I have noticed that many users work like this, especially when writing a long page, and decided that perhaps my previous habit of writing a long page in a single go was giving a skewed picture of the significance of my contributions. Apparently, this has created the opposite problem, where people look at pages where I made 10 consecutive edits and assume "Oh, he must have only worked on 1000 / 10 = 100 pages". If edit count is important to you, please look at more than the first page of my edit history before jumping to conclusions.
I still maintain that the contributions I have made are significant, even if the edit count is low. And I don't understand the concerns about the areas where the majority of my edits have been made. It is entirely inaccurate to say that my edits have been in a few limited areas. That aside, perhaps you won't find much on electrical engineering, computer science, music, or movies in a normal encyclopedia. But this isn't a normal encyclopedia.
Finally, to answer Get-back-world-respect's question, I want to be an admin because admins are who other users come to when they need help resolving for example a POV dispute, want help with an article, or just want a more experienced user's opinion on what is good or bad for the encyclopedia. I feel I am qualified to do these things, and I would like the chance. Probably the biggest reason I have had little involvement in sensitive discussions is that, as a non-admin, no one has asked me to help. [[User:CyborgTosser| CyborgTosser ( Only half the battle)]] 00:01, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I was originally planning to abstain, but Ruy Lopez urged me to vote, and so I have. I'm giving CyborgTosser the benefit of the doubt, as I find his case to be very similar to mine when I nominated myself for adminship. I myself was and still am quite quiet on dealing with matters most associate with adminship (practically all the articles I'm known for today were written after I became an admin; I never had a single dispute with another user until after I became an admin). However, I see nothing wrong with supporting a decent user — this should be no big deal. I hope this will urge CyborgTosser to be more active in participating on Talk pages; if you haven't run into trouble yet, you will, so you should prepare now. A good admin doesn't need to use his powers; I haven't deleted an article for weeks, nor even blocked anyone yet, nor protected a page...I've made very sparing use of my admin powers. Adminship is a sign that this user is a good one; the responsibilities assigned to admins are just additional privileges, and not mandatory to be used. All this is just my opinion, but I see no good reason to oppose for now. Johnleemk | Talk 10:17, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Question for Ruy Lopez
Johnleenk's comment above made me wonder a little. Why did you urge him to vote on this issue? I checked you contributions and saw that you write this on several user pages:
Hi,I'm not sure if you've ever visited the Request for adminship page, but users can vote on which users get to be admins.
:One vote going on now is Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/CyborgTosser. I opposed his adminship because he doesn't have as many edits as most people need before getting to be admin (and much of them are things like 150+ edits of his own user page). But more importantly, I haven't seen him interacting much, and certainly have not seen him try to resolve something contentious like a Israel/Palestine page or something like that. Anyhow, if you're interested, give it a look. Ruy Lopez 19:27, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
You appear to be asking people who do not frequent this page to vote on this matter? Why? As far as i know people do not usually go around canvassing votes for or against candidates on this page. Why are you doing it? You have also updated the vote tally several times on this page. Why? You seem overly interested in the out come of this vote for a disinterested party. Also one last question - I've just seen this edit to Xed's talk page and cant help but wonder if you opposition to CyborgTosser has anything to do with the fact that I nominated him? Of course you have every right to be interested in the outcome of a particular vote and you have every right to oppose the nomination of anyone you please but canvassing for votes is not how we normally do things here. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 19:58, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)