Support, an astonishingly good candidate. The contribs list is extensive and varied, and has (more recently) good edit summary usage. There is excellent argumentation in AfD debates and the like (I particularly liked
this diff) and the talk page shows friendliness and civility. Then, there's the answers to the questions. I feel I should move to blank them, for fear they will be used as model answers by those too lazy to work them out for themselves. They capture the essence of good understanding of policy, guideline and practise as well as demonstrating the flexibility of approach that is so important. I laughed out loud (actually) at the answer to Q4, which should be framed somewhere. A damn fine admin-in-waiting. -
Splashtalk20:55, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
I've seen you around and like your style. Still, given how you seem to HAFFLATAHTR (Have a fondness for long acronyms that are hard to remember), I wasn't sure what to think, but
this sold me. If I may be so bold, consider using the magic .js stuff to force you to put in edit summaries, and work on making them a bit more explanatory, and I bet you won't get a single oppose vote. OK maybe not, but support anyway. ++
Lar:
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c21:26, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support especially for his answer to q.1 on "Requested Moves." On my
RfA, I answered that I would work on RM but due to various reasons I couldn't. Hence, this vote, so that the RM cat is lean and mean. --
Gurubrahma04:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. Obviously experienced, good Q1 answer (not just "reverting vandalism," though that is extremely important as well), and creator of AWWD... on top of it. --
Jjjsixsix(
talk)/(
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06:57, 26 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. If we started an Association of Wikipedians Who Want Ashikaba to be an Admin would that overtake your group in members? I think it might. ⇔
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Edit summary usage: 99% for major edits and 61% for minor edits. Based on the last 150 major and 130 minor edits outside the Wikipedia, User, Image, and all Talk namespaces.
Mathbot22:51, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia in this capacity. Please take the time to answer a few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
A.
Wikipedia:Requested moves has always been my personal vice. At one point it had a backlog of over a month, and
Category:Requested moves is even worse. Many requested moves are rather uncontroversial, and I would like to do my best to deal with these. Of course, I will also be happy to help out with the usual array of janitorial tasks such as AfD closure, requests for protection, and vandalism rollbacks.
2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
A. As I state on my user page, the contribution that I am most proud of is this edit to Template:Nihongo:
[1] which resolved a long dispute and cleaned up hundreds of Japan-related pages in one swift stroke. I've also written up
Wikipedia:Wikipedia has too many rules, which is a guideline version of
Wikipedia:Ignore all rules reflecting Jimbo's comments on what IAR means to him.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A. I've soared through without any Wikistress until recently, when I was involved in a dispute over
Wikipedia:Wikipedia Day with an anonymous user who insisted on adding a paragraph that claimed that there was not much to celebrate on Wikipedia Day 2006 because of Seigenthaler and so forth. When I reverted this message he promptly
pointed out my mistakes in such a way that made me rather upset, but I simply slept on it and the next morning the guy was gone. I firmly believe that if you're getting too stressed, or getting angry at someone, you need to turn off the computer and do something totally unrelated. This will put your worries in perspective.
4. When would you use {{test1}}, and when would you use {{bv}}?
A. Most cases of blatant vandalism shouldn't actually be called that. For example, a bit of blanking or nonsense from friends of gays merits a {{test1}}, not because they were necessarily testing, but because it introduces the newbie to a community that assumes good faith and welcomes new contributors. If someone's getting angry with other users or being a POV pusher, you should abandon templates entirely and talk to them personally. {{bv}} should be reserved for persistent cases where the newbie is without a doubt trying to disrupt things. (Generally, using the test series of templates one by one isn't that great-- it reminds me of the prerecorded messages from
Magrathea which didn't stop anyone. "The menace in the voice took on a sharper edge. 'Meanwhile we thank our clients for their kind interest and would ask them to leave. Now.'")
5. What would you do if a user reverts an article four times in slightly more than 24 hours? (Thus obeying the letter of
WP:3RR.)
A. Four times in just over 24 hours indicates a knowledge of the letter of the law. I'd remind them that just because they're strictly obeying
WP:3RR doesn't mean they're acting politely, and probably ask them to finish discussion before they attack other people's edits. If they are reverting in obvious vandalism or POV stuff which has already been ruled out on the talk page, I would give them a firmer warning.
6. In your opinion, when should you speedy delete an article under CSD A7 (unremarkable people or groups) and when should you nominate it for an AFD instead?
A. CSD A7 is really easy: if an article about a person or group makes absolutely no statements about why its subject is notable, then it's not useful to anyone reading it. I would do a Google search, especially noting if any other Wikipedia articles turn up in the results (linking to it), and maybe try Google Print/Amazon as well if that seems relevant. If I see anything that might make the subject notable, I'll remove the CSD template and add a link pointing to the possible notability. If the article itself has been improperly nominated, I'll put it on AfD. If the article claims its subject is the king of the world or something, I will delete it as nonsense :)
7. How would you apply NPOV to a controversial article that you are editing?
A. On
Lolicon, an article that is certainly controversial, I took three steps: first, to make the changes I thought were necessary, secondly, to discuss them on Talk when someone disputed them, and finally, to just drop the damn thing when it became clear I was in the minority. Now that I am in the majority on that article and reverting anon edits, I'm keeping up the discussion on Talk to make sure there's still a consensus. In general if there's an article that I have a strong opinion on and other people are already arguing about it, I'm just going to keep away and trust them to come up something agreeable.
8. What are your greatest frustrations with Wikipedia?
A. There are too many pastel boxes everywhere. Luckily, this is something I can fix (e.g., removing {{cleanup}} when there's already a {{pov}} alerting people to the problems in the article). Also, citing sources, of course.
A. For a while I was unsure whether I was good enough to be "admin-quality" (I was thinking of rejecting any RfA given to me because I'm not a cool enough dude to be admin), then I realized that everyone makes mistakes, and if I want to improve Wikipedia I have to be mindful of them whether I'm admin or not! So I reluctantly accepted my self-nom in light of recent optimism. Also, it's funny, I think.
Ashibakatock21:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
10.Thanks for answering the above, I was thinking along those lines but wanted to check. Also I was about to add Do you think you have made any mistakes on Wikipedia? If so could you please say how you corrected them/reacted? --
Petros47121:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Um... mainly I was just worried about my sense of humor, which is sometimes not shared by everyone here
[2]. Also, when I started editing in 2002 I did silly things like attributing articles to their authors :) I can tell you flat out that I don't make mistakes along the lines of personal attacks or other incivility, and if I did you'd see them mentioned on my user talk page or on this RfA.
Ashibakatock21:38, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Support, an astonishingly good candidate. The contribs list is extensive and varied, and has (more recently) good edit summary usage. There is excellent argumentation in AfD debates and the like (I particularly liked
this diff) and the talk page shows friendliness and civility. Then, there's the answers to the questions. I feel I should move to blank them, for fear they will be used as model answers by those too lazy to work them out for themselves. They capture the essence of good understanding of policy, guideline and practise as well as demonstrating the flexibility of approach that is so important. I laughed out loud (actually) at the answer to Q4, which should be framed somewhere. A damn fine admin-in-waiting. -
Splashtalk20:55, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
I've seen you around and like your style. Still, given how you seem to HAFFLATAHTR (Have a fondness for long acronyms that are hard to remember), I wasn't sure what to think, but
this sold me. If I may be so bold, consider using the magic .js stuff to force you to put in edit summaries, and work on making them a bit more explanatory, and I bet you won't get a single oppose vote. OK maybe not, but support anyway. ++
Lar:
t/
c21:26, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support especially for his answer to q.1 on "Requested Moves." On my
RfA, I answered that I would work on RM but due to various reasons I couldn't. Hence, this vote, so that the RM cat is lean and mean. --
Gurubrahma04:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. Obviously experienced, good Q1 answer (not just "reverting vandalism," though that is extremely important as well), and creator of AWWD... on top of it. --
Jjjsixsix(
talk)/(
contribs) @
06:57, 26 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. If we started an Association of Wikipedians Who Want Ashikaba to be an Admin would that overtake your group in members? I think it might. ⇔
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c-
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07:23, 30 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Edit summary usage: 99% for major edits and 61% for minor edits. Based on the last 150 major and 130 minor edits outside the Wikipedia, User, Image, and all Talk namespaces.
Mathbot22:51, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia in this capacity. Please take the time to answer a few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
A.
Wikipedia:Requested moves has always been my personal vice. At one point it had a backlog of over a month, and
Category:Requested moves is even worse. Many requested moves are rather uncontroversial, and I would like to do my best to deal with these. Of course, I will also be happy to help out with the usual array of janitorial tasks such as AfD closure, requests for protection, and vandalism rollbacks.
2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
A. As I state on my user page, the contribution that I am most proud of is this edit to Template:Nihongo:
[1] which resolved a long dispute and cleaned up hundreds of Japan-related pages in one swift stroke. I've also written up
Wikipedia:Wikipedia has too many rules, which is a guideline version of
Wikipedia:Ignore all rules reflecting Jimbo's comments on what IAR means to him.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A. I've soared through without any Wikistress until recently, when I was involved in a dispute over
Wikipedia:Wikipedia Day with an anonymous user who insisted on adding a paragraph that claimed that there was not much to celebrate on Wikipedia Day 2006 because of Seigenthaler and so forth. When I reverted this message he promptly
pointed out my mistakes in such a way that made me rather upset, but I simply slept on it and the next morning the guy was gone. I firmly believe that if you're getting too stressed, or getting angry at someone, you need to turn off the computer and do something totally unrelated. This will put your worries in perspective.
4. When would you use {{test1}}, and when would you use {{bv}}?
A. Most cases of blatant vandalism shouldn't actually be called that. For example, a bit of blanking or nonsense from friends of gays merits a {{test1}}, not because they were necessarily testing, but because it introduces the newbie to a community that assumes good faith and welcomes new contributors. If someone's getting angry with other users or being a POV pusher, you should abandon templates entirely and talk to them personally. {{bv}} should be reserved for persistent cases where the newbie is without a doubt trying to disrupt things. (Generally, using the test series of templates one by one isn't that great-- it reminds me of the prerecorded messages from
Magrathea which didn't stop anyone. "The menace in the voice took on a sharper edge. 'Meanwhile we thank our clients for their kind interest and would ask them to leave. Now.'")
5. What would you do if a user reverts an article four times in slightly more than 24 hours? (Thus obeying the letter of
WP:3RR.)
A. Four times in just over 24 hours indicates a knowledge of the letter of the law. I'd remind them that just because they're strictly obeying
WP:3RR doesn't mean they're acting politely, and probably ask them to finish discussion before they attack other people's edits. If they are reverting in obvious vandalism or POV stuff which has already been ruled out on the talk page, I would give them a firmer warning.
6. In your opinion, when should you speedy delete an article under CSD A7 (unremarkable people or groups) and when should you nominate it for an AFD instead?
A. CSD A7 is really easy: if an article about a person or group makes absolutely no statements about why its subject is notable, then it's not useful to anyone reading it. I would do a Google search, especially noting if any other Wikipedia articles turn up in the results (linking to it), and maybe try Google Print/Amazon as well if that seems relevant. If I see anything that might make the subject notable, I'll remove the CSD template and add a link pointing to the possible notability. If the article itself has been improperly nominated, I'll put it on AfD. If the article claims its subject is the king of the world or something, I will delete it as nonsense :)
7. How would you apply NPOV to a controversial article that you are editing?
A. On
Lolicon, an article that is certainly controversial, I took three steps: first, to make the changes I thought were necessary, secondly, to discuss them on Talk when someone disputed them, and finally, to just drop the damn thing when it became clear I was in the minority. Now that I am in the majority on that article and reverting anon edits, I'm keeping up the discussion on Talk to make sure there's still a consensus. In general if there's an article that I have a strong opinion on and other people are already arguing about it, I'm just going to keep away and trust them to come up something agreeable.
8. What are your greatest frustrations with Wikipedia?
A. There are too many pastel boxes everywhere. Luckily, this is something I can fix (e.g., removing {{cleanup}} when there's already a {{pov}} alerting people to the problems in the article). Also, citing sources, of course.
A. For a while I was unsure whether I was good enough to be "admin-quality" (I was thinking of rejecting any RfA given to me because I'm not a cool enough dude to be admin), then I realized that everyone makes mistakes, and if I want to improve Wikipedia I have to be mindful of them whether I'm admin or not! So I reluctantly accepted my self-nom in light of recent optimism. Also, it's funny, I think.
Ashibakatock21:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
10.Thanks for answering the above, I was thinking along those lines but wanted to check. Also I was about to add Do you think you have made any mistakes on Wikipedia? If so could you please say how you corrected them/reacted? --
Petros47121:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Um... mainly I was just worried about my sense of humor, which is sometimes not shared by everyone here
[2]. Also, when I started editing in 2002 I did silly things like attributing articles to their authors :) I can tell you flat out that I don't make mistakes along the lines of personal attacks or other incivility, and if I did you'd see them mentioned on my user talk page or on this RfA.
Ashibakatock21:38, 23 January 2006 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page.