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I recently heard that there is a statue that caused much controversy in it's time. The statue is of a ballerina in a normal dance position with dance attire, however her face was sculpted to resmeble that of a monkey/ape. It had something to do with the belief/theory that those who commit crimes or belong to lower castes are primitive and less evolved. I cannot find the name/sculpter of the stature nor can I identify the belief system or thoery base that supported such views. Any help in this regard is greatly appreciated. -- 216.8.141.223 01:59, 12 September 2006 (UTC)Mike
Okay-- i've heard it said you can tell that someone is a Jew if their chin is tilted towards the left, of the left 'side' of the chin is bigger (longer, lower). This is partly why i asked the 'first' odd question. I'm sure this is another one of those things that is completely false =P
Which state is sometimes called "The APPLE Island"
What is the origin of the phrase "such-and-such is a snare and a delusion"? Is it a quote from something (the Bible, Shakespeare, ...)? When I was little and visiting my grandmother, we wanted pancakes for breakfast one morning and she replied that pancakes are a snare and a delusion. Since then, I have often heard it said of many other things. Googling "snare and a delusion" gets lots of hits, but no indication of the original source. Angr 09:02, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
My first thought is Shakespeare or the King James Bible. Didn't find the phrase in either.
The earliest I found was http://www.bartleby.com/100/pages/page527.html "Lord Denman. (1779–1854) 5482: "A delusion, a mockery, and a snare." O’ Connell v. The Queen, 11 Clark and Finnelly Reports.
But wait: later in 1902 there is Lord Kelvin "The air-ship of the Santos-Dumont style is a snare and a delusion. A balloon with paddle wheels is an old idea and can never be of any practical use." [BDE 1902-04-19, pg. 20, "Lord Kelvin Here"] cited at http://zapatopi.net/kelvin/quotes/
Also:"A certain degree of physical harmony and comfort is necessary, but above a certain level it becomes a hindrance instead of a help. Therefore the ideal of creating an unlimited number of wants and satisfying them seems to be a delusion and a snare." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948). Found at http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/with/keyword/snare/ Edison 17:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Addition, July 2016: I found this entry when searching for the earliest source of this phrase, which was used in an ancestor's letter to his brother in July, 1883. Disgusted with the patronage system, he wrote, "A curse I say upon all politicians & political favors & promises. They are only a delusion & a snare." This lifelong resident of small-town Illinois had slightly more than a common-school education, was a good writer and a newspaper editor. But it's hard to imagine he had heard of or read Lord Denman. Newspapers in the Library of Congress database have Denman's speech in the House of Lords widely reported in America, and in three Illinois papers the phrase "delusion and a snare" turns up fairly often from 1849 to 1883, having cut loose from Lord Denman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.200.229 ( talk) 15:52, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Apparently, 2,973 people died on 9/11. How many of those were Jews? -- 81.79.168.18 10:14, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Dweller, I think you may have made an honest mistake about something the questioner said. S/he didn't mention "the Isreali occupied West Bank (and Gaza, that place that Israel withdrew from over a year or so ago but for the oddest reason is still considered "occupied" ... but let's not get into that)", but rather "Zionist occupied Palestine". It's an honest mistake, but I think you overlooked the subtle implications of the statement. I'm sure you already know this, but "Palestine" = the occupied territory(ies) PLUS Israel. Of course the Israelis chose to rename their portion of "Palestine" as Israel. Yet the questioner speaks of "Zionist" (note, not "Israeli") occupied "Palestine". Those who do not recognize Israel as a legitimate state most often refer to it as "the Zionist entity". Put this all together, and, when referring to "Zionist occupied Palestine", the questioner is obviously referring to what we would recognize as not only the occupied territories, but Israel proper as well.
As for the questioner, you may say you "don't want to turn the RefDesk into a soapbox", yet rather disingenuously, that's exactly what you've done through your comments. Worse actually, you've turned it into a forum for discussing disgraceful anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. "Not anti-Jew, but anti-Zionist" Bullshit! That's the official party-line of every anti-Semitic regime and terrorist "NGO" in the region, even that Iranian midget talks about how he's not anti-Semitic, just anti-Zionist...the Jews should have been given a country back in Europe rather than in the middle east. If you're not "anti-Jewish, just anti-Zionist", then why would it matter how many Jews died on 9/11? Jews and Zionists are two separate and distinct (yet obviously largely overlapping) groups. As an "anti-Zionist", but not an "anti-semite", surely you're aware of the fact that not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews. Shouldn't you be far more interested in how many Zionists died on 9/11? For example, the evangelical Christian US "Bible-belt" is staunchly Zionist, for they see the creation of the State of Israel as the fulfilment of Bible prophesy, hastening the second coming of Christ. In many cases, these people actually support Israel far more ferociously than many liberal Jews. If you're truly "anti-Zionist" but not the least bit "anti-Jewish", shouldn't you be at least as intersted in the number of evangelical Christians that died on 9/11 as you are with totally assimilated, hook-nosed, beady-eyed, swarthy American stockbrokers named Goldberg or Schwartz?
Using the RefDesk as a soap-box may be irritating and discouraged, but we've all discussed our views here, sometimes crossing the thin and difficult-to-detect line between a RefDesk and a soap-box (I fully admit I'm probably one of the worst culprits!), but in my opinion, if the discussion is kept civil and the respectful, I see nothing wrong with the airing of various perspectives here. If anything it gives Wikipedia a bit of "colour". Sort of like the editorial and op-ed pages of a newspaper. However what you've done here is deplorable and a disgrace to Wikipedia. Loomis 18:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
My PO is threatening me with a noshow arrest because I was not able to go to her office for a normal schedualed meeting. My rides car broke down and it was impossable for me to go. I called her that morning and told her it was impossable for me to be there, she said she was going to list me as a noshow and have me picked up. There is no public transportation here and I would have had to walk 15 miles in heavy traffic to get there. Can anybody out there give me any ideas? Thanks a lot I have not missed any other meetings and have paied all of my fees.
A computer programmer creates software which he uploads and lists on a publicly-accessible website. He does not include copyright or licensing information relating to the software. What is the copyright status of the software? What rights (e.g. download, use, modify, redistribute) do others have on this software? Does it matter what the intent of the programmer is? For example, is there a difference between if he wants others to download and use the software but doesn't explicitly say so versus if he intends the website to be for his own personal use, like being able to access his software from other places?-- Nonpareility 17:09, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I have a bank account in England that includes a VISA DEBIT (cf. credit) card. Since many websites wont accept anything less than VISA or Mastercard, it simply wont do to be stuck with Maestro card. Here in Holland they tell me that I can only get VISA or Mastercard in a credit card which annoys me oh-so-much because not only do they charge you over here just for having an account (Rabobank doesn't even pay interest on the current account!) but they'll charge me even more for having a credit card (even if I didn't use it). It seems utterly backward to me, to have to pay for something with a credit card if I've got perfectly good money sitting in my bank account.
a) what is with Holland's backward banking system (you get charged for everything) - especially, why wont they put VISA or Mastercard on my debit card when we're perfectly capable of doing that in the UK?
b) why wont all websites accept Maestro? -- Username132 ( talk) 18:30, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I printed out the information about George Orwell off of your website and I need to know which encyclopedia it came from?
How did metalsmiths back when create barbed wire, telegraph wire, any kind of metal wire? Surely not heating-hammering! — Mac Davis] ( talk) ( Desk| Help me improve)
Copper wiring originated when two thrifty Scotsmen found the same penny at the same time. :-) StuRat 04:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed that many men dislike women as they get older. This is in a social, not sexual, context. They just don't like dealing with them.
Maybe the novelty has worn off. There is only so much pleasure you can get out of a women before they start repeating themselves.
I'd say that people get grumpier as they get older. Gross generalisation, I know. But heck, the old people I know have plenty to be grumpy about, like bad health, money trouble, disrespect from the community, 'things changing' etc. Cut them some slack. -- Dweller 09:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
OK bods,in our debating team we are doing a devil's advocate-putting forward an unpopular or controversial statement to defend.I have for my sins opted for 'Hitler was an excellent leader for Germany'.I've checked out the Hitler article amongst other sources and have already got some points- He reduced unemployment and crime,launched widespread building projects such as the Autobahns. He increased national pride and restored the economy. He provided a good standard of living-a middle class Nazi family could expect good pay,a comfortable house and there were organized Party activities such as summer holidays or ski trips.
Any other areas that would be useful to look at or ideas to build upon? Vielen Dank! Lemon martini 22:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Plus, he hated jews! schyler 01:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
The autobahn superhighway system was developed during his reign. He encouraged scientific and technical development, even if for evil ends. Edison 04:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the useful suggestions guys.That's the point of these debates.Each speaker has a difficult topic to defend-other ones I believe were things like 'There is nothing objectionable about racism' or 'Criminals are a great benefit to society'.It's then up to your skill as a speaker to persuade the audience that there is merit in your argument.For my topic,it looks like I can do it well if I disregard Hitler's political views and concentrate solely on the economic factors and the strength of his leadership. Lemon martini 08:58, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I once made the mistake of mentioning some of the above points (for example his vegetarianism and abstention from tobacco and alcohol) in an Internet discussion. The result was that I offended people, who claimed I was trying to justify the Holocaust. Nice to see that not everyone is like that. JIP | Talk 12:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Guys, don't forget that 1) The history books are written by the winners and WWII is no exception. 2) The Allies weren't angels. They had policies that were similar enough to Holocaust. For example, the British were severely oppressing the natives of India, in USSR there were concentration camps for political opposition. US was racist as usual and did what it wanted in Latin America. By the way, remember the story about a ship full of Jews that was turned away? 3) It was the Allies that declared war on Germany. Hitler repeatedly offered peace, so the war cannot be entirely blamed on him. I had read that in one of his speeches. I don't know how reliable it is as an information source, I am hoping someone will tell me. 4) All above-mentioned things considered, maybe he should be judged not only by how he treated Jews and the enemies of his country, but by what he has done for his country as well.
P.S. No, I am not racist and I don't think it's ok to kill people because of factors they don't control (race, etc). However, if we are going to judge Hitler's regime, I suggest we put its crimes in context.
I asked this question before but none of the guesses were right (atleast didnt look right) so this time I got a picture. So here we go again, does someone know this dog breeds name? Here's picture from Madonna - frozen video ( watch). Thank you very, very much for your help. - Tutmosis 22:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I am just new to Wikipedia, and was having some technical problems. I erased my comment.
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I recently heard that there is a statue that caused much controversy in it's time. The statue is of a ballerina in a normal dance position with dance attire, however her face was sculpted to resmeble that of a monkey/ape. It had something to do with the belief/theory that those who commit crimes or belong to lower castes are primitive and less evolved. I cannot find the name/sculpter of the stature nor can I identify the belief system or thoery base that supported such views. Any help in this regard is greatly appreciated. -- 216.8.141.223 01:59, 12 September 2006 (UTC)Mike
Okay-- i've heard it said you can tell that someone is a Jew if their chin is tilted towards the left, of the left 'side' of the chin is bigger (longer, lower). This is partly why i asked the 'first' odd question. I'm sure this is another one of those things that is completely false =P
Which state is sometimes called "The APPLE Island"
What is the origin of the phrase "such-and-such is a snare and a delusion"? Is it a quote from something (the Bible, Shakespeare, ...)? When I was little and visiting my grandmother, we wanted pancakes for breakfast one morning and she replied that pancakes are a snare and a delusion. Since then, I have often heard it said of many other things. Googling "snare and a delusion" gets lots of hits, but no indication of the original source. Angr 09:02, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
My first thought is Shakespeare or the King James Bible. Didn't find the phrase in either.
The earliest I found was http://www.bartleby.com/100/pages/page527.html "Lord Denman. (1779–1854) 5482: "A delusion, a mockery, and a snare." O’ Connell v. The Queen, 11 Clark and Finnelly Reports.
But wait: later in 1902 there is Lord Kelvin "The air-ship of the Santos-Dumont style is a snare and a delusion. A balloon with paddle wheels is an old idea and can never be of any practical use." [BDE 1902-04-19, pg. 20, "Lord Kelvin Here"] cited at http://zapatopi.net/kelvin/quotes/
Also:"A certain degree of physical harmony and comfort is necessary, but above a certain level it becomes a hindrance instead of a help. Therefore the ideal of creating an unlimited number of wants and satisfying them seems to be a delusion and a snare." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948). Found at http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/with/keyword/snare/ Edison 17:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Addition, July 2016: I found this entry when searching for the earliest source of this phrase, which was used in an ancestor's letter to his brother in July, 1883. Disgusted with the patronage system, he wrote, "A curse I say upon all politicians & political favors & promises. They are only a delusion & a snare." This lifelong resident of small-town Illinois had slightly more than a common-school education, was a good writer and a newspaper editor. But it's hard to imagine he had heard of or read Lord Denman. Newspapers in the Library of Congress database have Denman's speech in the House of Lords widely reported in America, and in three Illinois papers the phrase "delusion and a snare" turns up fairly often from 1849 to 1883, having cut loose from Lord Denman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.200.229 ( talk) 15:52, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Apparently, 2,973 people died on 9/11. How many of those were Jews? -- 81.79.168.18 10:14, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Dweller, I think you may have made an honest mistake about something the questioner said. S/he didn't mention "the Isreali occupied West Bank (and Gaza, that place that Israel withdrew from over a year or so ago but for the oddest reason is still considered "occupied" ... but let's not get into that)", but rather "Zionist occupied Palestine". It's an honest mistake, but I think you overlooked the subtle implications of the statement. I'm sure you already know this, but "Palestine" = the occupied territory(ies) PLUS Israel. Of course the Israelis chose to rename their portion of "Palestine" as Israel. Yet the questioner speaks of "Zionist" (note, not "Israeli") occupied "Palestine". Those who do not recognize Israel as a legitimate state most often refer to it as "the Zionist entity". Put this all together, and, when referring to "Zionist occupied Palestine", the questioner is obviously referring to what we would recognize as not only the occupied territories, but Israel proper as well.
As for the questioner, you may say you "don't want to turn the RefDesk into a soapbox", yet rather disingenuously, that's exactly what you've done through your comments. Worse actually, you've turned it into a forum for discussing disgraceful anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. "Not anti-Jew, but anti-Zionist" Bullshit! That's the official party-line of every anti-Semitic regime and terrorist "NGO" in the region, even that Iranian midget talks about how he's not anti-Semitic, just anti-Zionist...the Jews should have been given a country back in Europe rather than in the middle east. If you're not "anti-Jewish, just anti-Zionist", then why would it matter how many Jews died on 9/11? Jews and Zionists are two separate and distinct (yet obviously largely overlapping) groups. As an "anti-Zionist", but not an "anti-semite", surely you're aware of the fact that not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews. Shouldn't you be far more interested in how many Zionists died on 9/11? For example, the evangelical Christian US "Bible-belt" is staunchly Zionist, for they see the creation of the State of Israel as the fulfilment of Bible prophesy, hastening the second coming of Christ. In many cases, these people actually support Israel far more ferociously than many liberal Jews. If you're truly "anti-Zionist" but not the least bit "anti-Jewish", shouldn't you be at least as intersted in the number of evangelical Christians that died on 9/11 as you are with totally assimilated, hook-nosed, beady-eyed, swarthy American stockbrokers named Goldberg or Schwartz?
Using the RefDesk as a soap-box may be irritating and discouraged, but we've all discussed our views here, sometimes crossing the thin and difficult-to-detect line between a RefDesk and a soap-box (I fully admit I'm probably one of the worst culprits!), but in my opinion, if the discussion is kept civil and the respectful, I see nothing wrong with the airing of various perspectives here. If anything it gives Wikipedia a bit of "colour". Sort of like the editorial and op-ed pages of a newspaper. However what you've done here is deplorable and a disgrace to Wikipedia. Loomis 18:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
My PO is threatening me with a noshow arrest because I was not able to go to her office for a normal schedualed meeting. My rides car broke down and it was impossable for me to go. I called her that morning and told her it was impossable for me to be there, she said she was going to list me as a noshow and have me picked up. There is no public transportation here and I would have had to walk 15 miles in heavy traffic to get there. Can anybody out there give me any ideas? Thanks a lot I have not missed any other meetings and have paied all of my fees.
A computer programmer creates software which he uploads and lists on a publicly-accessible website. He does not include copyright or licensing information relating to the software. What is the copyright status of the software? What rights (e.g. download, use, modify, redistribute) do others have on this software? Does it matter what the intent of the programmer is? For example, is there a difference between if he wants others to download and use the software but doesn't explicitly say so versus if he intends the website to be for his own personal use, like being able to access his software from other places?-- Nonpareility 17:09, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I have a bank account in England that includes a VISA DEBIT (cf. credit) card. Since many websites wont accept anything less than VISA or Mastercard, it simply wont do to be stuck with Maestro card. Here in Holland they tell me that I can only get VISA or Mastercard in a credit card which annoys me oh-so-much because not only do they charge you over here just for having an account (Rabobank doesn't even pay interest on the current account!) but they'll charge me even more for having a credit card (even if I didn't use it). It seems utterly backward to me, to have to pay for something with a credit card if I've got perfectly good money sitting in my bank account.
a) what is with Holland's backward banking system (you get charged for everything) - especially, why wont they put VISA or Mastercard on my debit card when we're perfectly capable of doing that in the UK?
b) why wont all websites accept Maestro? -- Username132 ( talk) 18:30, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I printed out the information about George Orwell off of your website and I need to know which encyclopedia it came from?
How did metalsmiths back when create barbed wire, telegraph wire, any kind of metal wire? Surely not heating-hammering! — Mac Davis] ( talk) ( Desk| Help me improve)
Copper wiring originated when two thrifty Scotsmen found the same penny at the same time. :-) StuRat 04:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed that many men dislike women as they get older. This is in a social, not sexual, context. They just don't like dealing with them.
Maybe the novelty has worn off. There is only so much pleasure you can get out of a women before they start repeating themselves.
I'd say that people get grumpier as they get older. Gross generalisation, I know. But heck, the old people I know have plenty to be grumpy about, like bad health, money trouble, disrespect from the community, 'things changing' etc. Cut them some slack. -- Dweller 09:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
OK bods,in our debating team we are doing a devil's advocate-putting forward an unpopular or controversial statement to defend.I have for my sins opted for 'Hitler was an excellent leader for Germany'.I've checked out the Hitler article amongst other sources and have already got some points- He reduced unemployment and crime,launched widespread building projects such as the Autobahns. He increased national pride and restored the economy. He provided a good standard of living-a middle class Nazi family could expect good pay,a comfortable house and there were organized Party activities such as summer holidays or ski trips.
Any other areas that would be useful to look at or ideas to build upon? Vielen Dank! Lemon martini 22:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Plus, he hated jews! schyler 01:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
The autobahn superhighway system was developed during his reign. He encouraged scientific and technical development, even if for evil ends. Edison 04:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the useful suggestions guys.That's the point of these debates.Each speaker has a difficult topic to defend-other ones I believe were things like 'There is nothing objectionable about racism' or 'Criminals are a great benefit to society'.It's then up to your skill as a speaker to persuade the audience that there is merit in your argument.For my topic,it looks like I can do it well if I disregard Hitler's political views and concentrate solely on the economic factors and the strength of his leadership. Lemon martini 08:58, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I once made the mistake of mentioning some of the above points (for example his vegetarianism and abstention from tobacco and alcohol) in an Internet discussion. The result was that I offended people, who claimed I was trying to justify the Holocaust. Nice to see that not everyone is like that. JIP | Talk 12:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Guys, don't forget that 1) The history books are written by the winners and WWII is no exception. 2) The Allies weren't angels. They had policies that were similar enough to Holocaust. For example, the British were severely oppressing the natives of India, in USSR there were concentration camps for political opposition. US was racist as usual and did what it wanted in Latin America. By the way, remember the story about a ship full of Jews that was turned away? 3) It was the Allies that declared war on Germany. Hitler repeatedly offered peace, so the war cannot be entirely blamed on him. I had read that in one of his speeches. I don't know how reliable it is as an information source, I am hoping someone will tell me. 4) All above-mentioned things considered, maybe he should be judged not only by how he treated Jews and the enemies of his country, but by what he has done for his country as well.
P.S. No, I am not racist and I don't think it's ok to kill people because of factors they don't control (race, etc). However, if we are going to judge Hitler's regime, I suggest we put its crimes in context.
I asked this question before but none of the guesses were right (atleast didnt look right) so this time I got a picture. So here we go again, does someone know this dog breeds name? Here's picture from Madonna - frozen video ( watch). Thank you very, very much for your help. - Tutmosis 22:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I am just new to Wikipedia, and was having some technical problems. I erased my comment.