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What sort of snake was the one that American soldiers in Vietnam called the "three step viper"? Supposedly if bitten you'd make it three steps before either dying or being incapacitated.
Apparently in reality it was more like "you'd make 100 steps before you started begging for someone to shoot you", but the name stuck. According to a book I read. 146.200.128.134 ( talk) 03:23, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
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help) Others highly poisonous snakes mentioned are Asiatic cobra,
Malayan krait,
Russell's viper,
Malayan pit viper,
hook-nosed sea snake,
Hardwick's sea snake, brown krait,
banded krait and
paradise flying snake.
fiveby(
zero) 12:58, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Northern and northeastern India (Mizoram), Burma, Thailand, West Malaysia and Vietnam. In Indonesia, it occurs on the islands of Sumatra, Mentawai Islands (Siberut, Sipora, North Pagai) and Borneo. The type locality, designated by lectotype, is listed as "Khasi Hills, Assam" (India).[2] Gumprecht et al. (2004) consider records for Bangladesh, Cambodia and Vietnam to be highly questionable, as they are likely based on misidentifications involving other species of Trimeresurus.[5]whereas I don't see any mention of a dispute of T. stejnegeri occurring in Vietnam in our article. True that it's claimed T. popeiorum is neurotoxic but T. stejnegeri is hemotoxic (and there seems to be dispute whether these even all belong in Trimeresusrus although I guess that's neither here nor there) but I'm not sure we can be certain from this story that it was neurotoxic. Nil Einne ( talk) 21:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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fiveby(
zero) 15:38, 22 September 2020 (UTC)There are stories from the area of children playing with kraits, with none of the elders in the village even realizing they're poisonous despite the fact that the mortality rate is supposedly 50% with antivenom, as they're so docile that no-one's been bitten in living memory. Begging to be put out of your misery sounds more like a viper, but though viper bites tend to be nasty due to necrosis, few vipers are as deadly as the stories that people tell. And since kraits would likely only bite if stepped on, and US soldiers wore boots, we're probably talking about an aggressively defensive climbing snake that might bite your hand as you're pushing through foliage, again suggesting a viper like Trimeresurus. Our unreferenced claim at Trimeresurus_stejnegeri#Venom sounds like it would be excruciating within a few steps. — kwami ( talk) 07:33, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
WP's biographical article about Simone Weil (born in 1909) mentions:
How would they have treated this issue in those days, and what about now? If they didn't do an appendectomy, would the appendicitis be likely to recur? I have the impression that appendix rupture was almost always fatal in the pre-antibiotic era, and is a serious condition even now. Thanks. 2602:24A:DE47:BB20:50DE:F402:42A6:A17D ( talk) 05:02, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
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What sort of snake was the one that American soldiers in Vietnam called the "three step viper"? Supposedly if bitten you'd make it three steps before either dying or being incapacitated.
Apparently in reality it was more like "you'd make 100 steps before you started begging for someone to shoot you", but the name stuck. According to a book I read. 146.200.128.134 ( talk) 03:23, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
{{
cite encyclopedia}}
: |work=
ignored (
help) Others highly poisonous snakes mentioned are Asiatic cobra,
Malayan krait,
Russell's viper,
Malayan pit viper,
hook-nosed sea snake,
Hardwick's sea snake, brown krait,
banded krait and
paradise flying snake.
fiveby(
zero) 12:58, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Northern and northeastern India (Mizoram), Burma, Thailand, West Malaysia and Vietnam. In Indonesia, it occurs on the islands of Sumatra, Mentawai Islands (Siberut, Sipora, North Pagai) and Borneo. The type locality, designated by lectotype, is listed as "Khasi Hills, Assam" (India).[2] Gumprecht et al. (2004) consider records for Bangladesh, Cambodia and Vietnam to be highly questionable, as they are likely based on misidentifications involving other species of Trimeresurus.[5]whereas I don't see any mention of a dispute of T. stejnegeri occurring in Vietnam in our article. True that it's claimed T. popeiorum is neurotoxic but T. stejnegeri is hemotoxic (and there seems to be dispute whether these even all belong in Trimeresusrus although I guess that's neither here nor there) but I'm not sure we can be certain from this story that it was neurotoxic. Nil Einne ( talk) 21:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
{{
cite journal}}
: Unknown parameter |displayauthors=
ignored (|display-authors=
suggested) (
help) mentions north of Thailand and into Laos for T. popeiorum but not Vietnam. Looks like some work to do on the articles.
fiveby(
zero) 15:38, 22 September 2020 (UTC)There are stories from the area of children playing with kraits, with none of the elders in the village even realizing they're poisonous despite the fact that the mortality rate is supposedly 50% with antivenom, as they're so docile that no-one's been bitten in living memory. Begging to be put out of your misery sounds more like a viper, but though viper bites tend to be nasty due to necrosis, few vipers are as deadly as the stories that people tell. And since kraits would likely only bite if stepped on, and US soldiers wore boots, we're probably talking about an aggressively defensive climbing snake that might bite your hand as you're pushing through foliage, again suggesting a viper like Trimeresurus. Our unreferenced claim at Trimeresurus_stejnegeri#Venom sounds like it would be excruciating within a few steps. — kwami ( talk) 07:33, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
WP's biographical article about Simone Weil (born in 1909) mentions:
How would they have treated this issue in those days, and what about now? If they didn't do an appendectomy, would the appendicitis be likely to recur? I have the impression that appendix rupture was almost always fatal in the pre-antibiotic era, and is a serious condition even now. Thanks. 2602:24A:DE47:BB20:50DE:F402:42A6:A17D ( talk) 05:02, 20 September 2020 (UTC)