From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Miscellaneous desk
< September 12 << Aug | September | Oct >> Current desk >
Welcome to the Wikipedia Miscellaneous Reference Desk Archives
The page you are currently viewing is a transcluded archive page. While you can leave answers for any questions shown below, please ask new questions on one of the current reference desk pages.


September 13 Information

Vehicle RFID

The roadside reader. Is there a way to turn this image 90 degrees?

The pictures show a vehicle RFID system installed for toll collection in Norway. Can anyone identify the internal components of the active tag carried by every vehicle?

1. 3.6V 1.6Ah Lithium battery
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?

AllBestFaith ( talk) 16:32, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply

There's a bot that can be told to rotate photos but I don't know which one. Or it could be edited on your computer and a new version uploaded. † Dismas†| (talk) 17:21, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
The image rotation is correct in my camera and computer but somehow turned when I uploaded it to Wikipedia. AllBestFaith ( talk) 17:42, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
4 and 7 are microchips. Or did you need something more specific? 6 could be as well but it's a bit hard to tell with the image at its current resolution. † Dismas†| (talk) 17:24, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
3 appears to be a spacer or a gasket or a washer of some sort. -- Jayron 32 18:28, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
Just a guess, but I suspect that 5 is the antenna. -- Stephan Schulz ( talk) 18:34, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
When assembled, metal disc 3 faces the two long slots visible as a "V" under the NORBIT legend in the bottom center image. I think these are quarter-wavelength cavity resonators coupled to the Microstrip antenna 5. AllBestFaith ( talk) 19:48, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
Since it's possible to read the part number on 7 (1PT1039), we can tell it's a piezoelectric transducer (spec sheet here [1]), apparently for generating sounds. The printing on the other chips is too small to read in this photo. CodeTalker ( talk) 23:57, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
Wikipedia has an article about the AutoPASS system in which this RFID or DSRC transponder is used. There is no mention of an ability to make a beep noise that could surprise a driver. I speculate that it could be there for production testing i.e. when each unit is programmed with the vehicle identity, and/or is a means to alert someone to unpaid tolls or stolen vehicle. AllBestFaith ( talk) 11:32, 14 September 2016 (UTC) reply
According to the catalogue: " The integrated buzzer can be activated from the roadside during a DSRC transaction. Buzzer tones can be customized to suite various needs." Smurrayinchester 13:05, 14 September 2016 (UTC) reply
At operating frequency 5.8 GHz a quarter wavelength is 1.3 cm in air. Here are the markings on the microchips:
     2. 4-pin marked C2KNR3L
     4. 32-pin marked NORBIT NBX60 SUD4868 1402
     6. 8-pin marked C23R
AllBestFaith ( talk) 11:32, 14 September 2016 (UTC) reply
The one marked NORBIT will presumably be a custom ASIC, so maybe there's not much to be said about that one. Smurrayinchester 13:05, 14 September 2016 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Miscellaneous desk
< September 12 << Aug | September | Oct >> Current desk >
Welcome to the Wikipedia Miscellaneous Reference Desk Archives
The page you are currently viewing is a transcluded archive page. While you can leave answers for any questions shown below, please ask new questions on one of the current reference desk pages.


September 13 Information

Vehicle RFID

The roadside reader. Is there a way to turn this image 90 degrees?

The pictures show a vehicle RFID system installed for toll collection in Norway. Can anyone identify the internal components of the active tag carried by every vehicle?

1. 3.6V 1.6Ah Lithium battery
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?

AllBestFaith ( talk) 16:32, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply

There's a bot that can be told to rotate photos but I don't know which one. Or it could be edited on your computer and a new version uploaded. † Dismas†| (talk) 17:21, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
The image rotation is correct in my camera and computer but somehow turned when I uploaded it to Wikipedia. AllBestFaith ( talk) 17:42, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
4 and 7 are microchips. Or did you need something more specific? 6 could be as well but it's a bit hard to tell with the image at its current resolution. † Dismas†| (talk) 17:24, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
3 appears to be a spacer or a gasket or a washer of some sort. -- Jayron 32 18:28, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
Just a guess, but I suspect that 5 is the antenna. -- Stephan Schulz ( talk) 18:34, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
When assembled, metal disc 3 faces the two long slots visible as a "V" under the NORBIT legend in the bottom center image. I think these are quarter-wavelength cavity resonators coupled to the Microstrip antenna 5. AllBestFaith ( talk) 19:48, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
Since it's possible to read the part number on 7 (1PT1039), we can tell it's a piezoelectric transducer (spec sheet here [1]), apparently for generating sounds. The printing on the other chips is too small to read in this photo. CodeTalker ( talk) 23:57, 13 September 2016 (UTC) reply
Wikipedia has an article about the AutoPASS system in which this RFID or DSRC transponder is used. There is no mention of an ability to make a beep noise that could surprise a driver. I speculate that it could be there for production testing i.e. when each unit is programmed with the vehicle identity, and/or is a means to alert someone to unpaid tolls or stolen vehicle. AllBestFaith ( talk) 11:32, 14 September 2016 (UTC) reply
According to the catalogue: " The integrated buzzer can be activated from the roadside during a DSRC transaction. Buzzer tones can be customized to suite various needs." Smurrayinchester 13:05, 14 September 2016 (UTC) reply
At operating frequency 5.8 GHz a quarter wavelength is 1.3 cm in air. Here are the markings on the microchips:
     2. 4-pin marked C2KNR3L
     4. 32-pin marked NORBIT NBX60 SUD4868 1402
     6. 8-pin marked C23R
AllBestFaith ( talk) 11:32, 14 September 2016 (UTC) reply
The one marked NORBIT will presumably be a custom ASIC, so maybe there's not much to be said about that one. Smurrayinchester 13:05, 14 September 2016 (UTC) reply

Videos

Youtube | Vimeo | Bing

Websites

Google | Yahoo | Bing

Encyclopedia

Google | Yahoo | Bing

Facebook