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Defining 1^infinity as e

Briefly, in March 2013 (study the history of the 1 article) there was a period where someone wrote that 1 to the infinity power is e. Is there any logic in this statement?? Georgia guy ( talk) 21:46, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply

One of the classic ways of defining e is
which is an example of the indeterminate form 1. So you can sort of see where it comes from. As to whether this is a better choice of a value to assign to 1 than any other, I would say that it is not. -- Trovatore ( talk) 21:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
In general:
So by changing the value of x you can get any positive value for 1. If you allow complex values for x then you can get any non-zero value. You could tweak the limit in other ways to get 1 = 0 or ∞. I think it's best to leave 1, along with 0/0, ∞/∞, ∞ − ∞, etc. undefined except as indeterminate forms with no assigned value. -- RDBury ( talk) 22:20, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
PS. "Briefly" here means for approximately 8 min. on March 11. There is also a blurb in the talk page Talk:1/Archive 1#1^∞ is e. -- RDBury ( talk) 22:50, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
It is indeed best left alone. One might choose to define it that way, but that makes a lot of algebra break down. You need to introduce all kinds of exceptions all over the place, or else you get things like
 -- Lambiam 10:25, 18 September 2021 (UTC) reply
"I would quarrel with mathematics and say that the sum of many zeros is a dangerous number" ( Stanislaw Jerzy Lec). And is the exponential of it. pm a 13:53, 21 September 2021 (UTC) reply
The sum of any number of zeros is zero. Georgia guy ( talk) 14:40, 21 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Corollary. Zero is a dangerous number.  -- Lambiam 14:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC) reply
@ Georgia guy: AFAIK the 'zero' in the Lec's aphorism may be a person with little knowledge (possibly also little skills) compared to their social position. -- CiaPan ( talk) 19:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC) reply

See 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ⋯ for some other strange formulas, but I don't remember 1=e having anything like that. 67.164.113.165 ( talk) 05:31, 22 September 2021 (UTC) reply

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September 15 Information

Defining 1^infinity as e

Briefly, in March 2013 (study the history of the 1 article) there was a period where someone wrote that 1 to the infinity power is e. Is there any logic in this statement?? Georgia guy ( talk) 21:46, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply

One of the classic ways of defining e is
which is an example of the indeterminate form 1. So you can sort of see where it comes from. As to whether this is a better choice of a value to assign to 1 than any other, I would say that it is not. -- Trovatore ( talk) 21:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
In general:
So by changing the value of x you can get any positive value for 1. If you allow complex values for x then you can get any non-zero value. You could tweak the limit in other ways to get 1 = 0 or ∞. I think it's best to leave 1, along with 0/0, ∞/∞, ∞ − ∞, etc. undefined except as indeterminate forms with no assigned value. -- RDBury ( talk) 22:20, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
PS. "Briefly" here means for approximately 8 min. on March 11. There is also a blurb in the talk page Talk:1/Archive 1#1^∞ is e. -- RDBury ( talk) 22:50, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
It is indeed best left alone. One might choose to define it that way, but that makes a lot of algebra break down. You need to introduce all kinds of exceptions all over the place, or else you get things like
 -- Lambiam 10:25, 18 September 2021 (UTC) reply
"I would quarrel with mathematics and say that the sum of many zeros is a dangerous number" ( Stanislaw Jerzy Lec). And is the exponential of it. pm a 13:53, 21 September 2021 (UTC) reply
The sum of any number of zeros is zero. Georgia guy ( talk) 14:40, 21 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Corollary. Zero is a dangerous number.  -- Lambiam 14:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC) reply
@ Georgia guy: AFAIK the 'zero' in the Lec's aphorism may be a person with little knowledge (possibly also little skills) compared to their social position. -- CiaPan ( talk) 19:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC) reply

See 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ⋯ for some other strange formulas, but I don't remember 1=e having anything like that. 67.164.113.165 ( talk) 05:31, 22 September 2021 (UTC) reply


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