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Logarithms of non-positive real numbers

Is there a way to derive the output of the natural logarithm for input values that are not simply integers that are greater than one without using Euler's formula? For instance, I could easily find from the fact that . This is the only method I'm familiar with. Is there an alternative method of evaluating the natural logarithm at negative, imaginary, and complex values? — Trevor K. — 17:49, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, it depends on your definition of logarithm. If you use the definition
, then you can get the log of −1 by changing to polar coordinates and integrating in a semicircular arc (for the principal value). Other values you would get by letting the integral wrap around more times, or by letting it go clockwise instead of counterclockwise. -- Trovatore ( talk) 21:18, 24 September 2011 (UTC) reply
You can find the logarithm of complex or negative values (z) using this formula (correct me if misinterpreted that atan(X,Y) thing):
where is the angle that the number z makes with the real axis.
Source: here. Best, Mattb112885 ( talk) 23:43, 24 September 2011 (UTC) reply
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Mathematics desk
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September 24 Information

Logarithms of non-positive real numbers

Is there a way to derive the output of the natural logarithm for input values that are not simply integers that are greater than one without using Euler's formula? For instance, I could easily find from the fact that . This is the only method I'm familiar with. Is there an alternative method of evaluating the natural logarithm at negative, imaginary, and complex values? — Trevor K. — 17:49, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, it depends on your definition of logarithm. If you use the definition
, then you can get the log of −1 by changing to polar coordinates and integrating in a semicircular arc (for the principal value). Other values you would get by letting the integral wrap around more times, or by letting it go clockwise instead of counterclockwise. -- Trovatore ( talk) 21:18, 24 September 2011 (UTC) reply
You can find the logarithm of complex or negative values (z) using this formula (correct me if misinterpreted that atan(X,Y) thing):
where is the angle that the number z makes with the real axis.
Source: here. Best, Mattb112885 ( talk) 23:43, 24 September 2011 (UTC) reply

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