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The same image (the name of which refers to the unrelated fr:Saint Herbot) is used to illustrate both Saint Edern and Saint Edeyrn. Wiki tells me
Both are mentioned as being connected to Lannédern in France. Question: Is this in fact the same saint? Is the image correctly labelled for any of the saints? As I don't have time to delve into this, can someone have a look. Thanks. Deadstar ( talk) Deadstar ( talk) 09:45, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
a statue of the patron saint (Edeyrn, a Welsh missionary of the 7C) riding a stag[6] and Lannédern Parish close fiveby( zero) 20:04, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
It is said in some ancient documents that the vale of Edeymion had its name on becoming the domain of Edeym, a descendant of Cunedda Wledig, who lived in the former part of the 7th century. His pedigree is thus given in Bonedd y Saint— Edeyrn ab Nudd ab Beli ab Rhun ab Maelgwn Gwynedd ab Cadwallawn Law Hir ab Einiou Yrth ab Cunedda WledigfTransactions of the Cymmrodorion. 1822.
Edeyrn, the son of Nudd ab Beli ab Rhun ab Maelgwn Gwynedd, was a bard, who embraced a life of sanctity, and the chapel of Bodedeyrn under Holyhead is dedicated to him. Some pedigrees say that the father of Edeyrn was Beli, omitting Nudd. Festival, Jan. 6.Rees, Rice (1836). An essay on the Welsh saints or the primitive Christians.
Aurdeyrn, ap Gwrtheyrn Gwrthenau oi ferch ei hîn, a fu'n Sant yn Llann Edeyrn yng Nghibwyr, lle mae ei Eglwys ef, ag yno y gorwedd: ag efe a wnaeth Gôr yno i drichant Seint, a'r Saeson ai torres yn amser Cadwaladr fendigaid.[9] and and Baring-Gould's Lives of the British Saints
So we definitely have two Welsh saints:
Baring-Gould has the same Edeyrn in Brittany in Edern, Finistère and Lannédern, but still need more work to see if this is a separate 9c saint born in Brittany. fiveby( zero) 22:13, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
EDEYRN, 'santo. Non si conoscono ne i genitori ne la vita di E. Infatti, sono necessarie prove piu convincenti per accettare la storia accolta dal Baring-GouldBibliotheca Sanctorum. 1964.
Comment: Thank you all for your research! So in short, there should be two separate entries for these two saints as they are not the same. The stag could be for either of them. The articles may benefit from some of the information you all unearthed.
Deadstar (
talk) 10:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm looking for a scan of the original manuscript "A vocabulary of the Pequot Indians, obtained by Ezra Stiles in 1762 at Groton, Connecticut" / "MS 5 Pequot vocabulary". I have not been able to locate a copy. I have found an academic article that transcribes it, but I'd like to see the original if possible. It might simply be that nobody has digitized it yet. 98.170.164.88 ( talk) 18:38, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
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The same image (the name of which refers to the unrelated fr:Saint Herbot) is used to illustrate both Saint Edern and Saint Edeyrn. Wiki tells me
Both are mentioned as being connected to Lannédern in France. Question: Is this in fact the same saint? Is the image correctly labelled for any of the saints? As I don't have time to delve into this, can someone have a look. Thanks. Deadstar ( talk) Deadstar ( talk) 09:45, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
a statue of the patron saint (Edeyrn, a Welsh missionary of the 7C) riding a stag[6] and Lannédern Parish close fiveby( zero) 20:04, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
It is said in some ancient documents that the vale of Edeymion had its name on becoming the domain of Edeym, a descendant of Cunedda Wledig, who lived in the former part of the 7th century. His pedigree is thus given in Bonedd y Saint— Edeyrn ab Nudd ab Beli ab Rhun ab Maelgwn Gwynedd ab Cadwallawn Law Hir ab Einiou Yrth ab Cunedda WledigfTransactions of the Cymmrodorion. 1822.
Edeyrn, the son of Nudd ab Beli ab Rhun ab Maelgwn Gwynedd, was a bard, who embraced a life of sanctity, and the chapel of Bodedeyrn under Holyhead is dedicated to him. Some pedigrees say that the father of Edeyrn was Beli, omitting Nudd. Festival, Jan. 6.Rees, Rice (1836). An essay on the Welsh saints or the primitive Christians.
Aurdeyrn, ap Gwrtheyrn Gwrthenau oi ferch ei hîn, a fu'n Sant yn Llann Edeyrn yng Nghibwyr, lle mae ei Eglwys ef, ag yno y gorwedd: ag efe a wnaeth Gôr yno i drichant Seint, a'r Saeson ai torres yn amser Cadwaladr fendigaid.[9] and and Baring-Gould's Lives of the British Saints
So we definitely have two Welsh saints:
Baring-Gould has the same Edeyrn in Brittany in Edern, Finistère and Lannédern, but still need more work to see if this is a separate 9c saint born in Brittany. fiveby( zero) 22:13, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
EDEYRN, 'santo. Non si conoscono ne i genitori ne la vita di E. Infatti, sono necessarie prove piu convincenti per accettare la storia accolta dal Baring-GouldBibliotheca Sanctorum. 1964.
Comment: Thank you all for your research! So in short, there should be two separate entries for these two saints as they are not the same. The stag could be for either of them. The articles may benefit from some of the information you all unearthed.
Deadstar (
talk) 10:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm looking for a scan of the original manuscript "A vocabulary of the Pequot Indians, obtained by Ezra Stiles in 1762 at Groton, Connecticut" / "MS 5 Pequot vocabulary". I have not been able to locate a copy. I have found an academic article that transcribes it, but I'd like to see the original if possible. It might simply be that nobody has digitized it yet. 98.170.164.88 ( talk) 18:38, 3 October 2022 (UTC)