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Hell's Kitty

The movie Hell's Kitty distributed by Wild Eye Releasing and starring a host of horror icons has no wikipedia page. Is there a process by which newly distributed movies can get at least a basic reference on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.248.182.59 ( talk) 01:05, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply

I don't see it satisfying WP:NFILM. It doesn't have A-list stars ( Kelli Maroney only rings a bell because of her work in Night of the Comet) or any reviews. Has it even been released yet? IMDb only shows a DVD release date of March 27. [1] Clarityfiend ( talk) 08:10, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply

"or any reviews"

You may be wrong on that account. The film's entry in Rotten Tomatoes has three reviews. Though they mostly point out that the film is re-editing footage from a web series that was released in 2011. Dimadick ( talk) 16:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Getting it an article may be hard, but one basic reference can at least have it mentioned at the director's, stars' or producer's articles. Maroney's filmography section is already totally unsourced, so it may be safe (though not technically proper) to simply add Hell's Kitty beneath Dark Star Hollow. It doesn't give much room for detail, but it'll show up in search results. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply
I don't see how that fits with WP:V or WP:OTHERSTUFF. Ian.thomson ( talk) 22:27, 19 March 2018 (UTC) reply

The feature film was derived from the web-series and includes appearances by other well known actors even more well known than Kelli Maroni to include and actor in the 2018 Academy Award Winning film for best picture: Doug Jones (The Shape of Water); Courtney Gains (Children of The Corn); Adrienne Barbeau (The Fog); Dale Midkiff (Pet Sematary); Michael Berryman (The Hills Have Eyes); Nina Hartley (Boogie Nights); Ashley C. Williams (The Human Centipede); Lee Meriwether (Batman); Barbara Nedeljakova (Hostel); John Franklin (The Addams Family), as well as Kelli Maroni (Night of the Comet); and Lynn Lowry (The Crazies). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.248.182.59 ( talk) 22:20, 19 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Notability is not inherited. Are there any professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are specifically about the subject but not dependent upon or affiliated with it? Ian.thomson ( talk) 22:27, 19 March 2018 (UTC) reply
Way too early for academic sources (it is a newly-released film), but there are already a few reviews from professional critics. Also Notability is inherited mentions exceptions for creative works: "four of the notability guidelines, for creative professions, books, films and music, do allow for inherited notability in certain circumstances". (I am not volunteering to write an article on a film I have not actually seen, just noting that it may meet the notability criteria.) Dimadick ( talk) 16:02, 20 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Yes, there are a bunch of links to reviews and articles on the movie from respected film sources, which can be located on the official movie website for Hell's Kitty. There are professional articles and on respected media sources like Nerdly, Film Threat, and Bloody Disgusting (a reputable source for horror). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.248.182.59 ( talk) 03:21, 20 March 2018 (UTC) reply

In case the SD request fails: Can somebody maybe look into that template? I am not sure, in fact, whether this navbox is of real use...-- Converto ( talk) 09:54, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Entertainment desk
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March 16 Information

Hell's Kitty

The movie Hell's Kitty distributed by Wild Eye Releasing and starring a host of horror icons has no wikipedia page. Is there a process by which newly distributed movies can get at least a basic reference on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.248.182.59 ( talk) 01:05, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply

I don't see it satisfying WP:NFILM. It doesn't have A-list stars ( Kelli Maroney only rings a bell because of her work in Night of the Comet) or any reviews. Has it even been released yet? IMDb only shows a DVD release date of March 27. [1] Clarityfiend ( talk) 08:10, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply

"or any reviews"

You may be wrong on that account. The film's entry in Rotten Tomatoes has three reviews. Though they mostly point out that the film is re-editing footage from a web series that was released in 2011. Dimadick ( talk) 16:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Getting it an article may be hard, but one basic reference can at least have it mentioned at the director's, stars' or producer's articles. Maroney's filmography section is already totally unsourced, so it may be safe (though not technically proper) to simply add Hell's Kitty beneath Dark Star Hollow. It doesn't give much room for detail, but it'll show up in search results. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply
I don't see how that fits with WP:V or WP:OTHERSTUFF. Ian.thomson ( talk) 22:27, 19 March 2018 (UTC) reply

The feature film was derived from the web-series and includes appearances by other well known actors even more well known than Kelli Maroni to include and actor in the 2018 Academy Award Winning film for best picture: Doug Jones (The Shape of Water); Courtney Gains (Children of The Corn); Adrienne Barbeau (The Fog); Dale Midkiff (Pet Sematary); Michael Berryman (The Hills Have Eyes); Nina Hartley (Boogie Nights); Ashley C. Williams (The Human Centipede); Lee Meriwether (Batman); Barbara Nedeljakova (Hostel); John Franklin (The Addams Family), as well as Kelli Maroni (Night of the Comet); and Lynn Lowry (The Crazies). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.248.182.59 ( talk) 22:20, 19 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Notability is not inherited. Are there any professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are specifically about the subject but not dependent upon or affiliated with it? Ian.thomson ( talk) 22:27, 19 March 2018 (UTC) reply
Way too early for academic sources (it is a newly-released film), but there are already a few reviews from professional critics. Also Notability is inherited mentions exceptions for creative works: "four of the notability guidelines, for creative professions, books, films and music, do allow for inherited notability in certain circumstances". (I am not volunteering to write an article on a film I have not actually seen, just noting that it may meet the notability criteria.) Dimadick ( talk) 16:02, 20 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Yes, there are a bunch of links to reviews and articles on the movie from respected film sources, which can be located on the official movie website for Hell's Kitty. There are professional articles and on respected media sources like Nerdly, Film Threat, and Bloody Disgusting (a reputable source for horror). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.248.182.59 ( talk) 03:21, 20 March 2018 (UTC) reply

In case the SD request fails: Can somebody maybe look into that template? I am not sure, in fact, whether this navbox is of real use...-- Converto ( talk) 09:54, 16 March 2018 (UTC) reply


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