April 26 Information

Hallo everybody, my question: these two French fencers Lauren Rembi ( [1]) and Joséphine Jacques-André-Coquin ( [2]) are sisters. But why they have different family names? Is one of both married and uses the husband name? if it's right, who of both is this? Merci. Leonprimer ( talk) 02:04, 26 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Interesting question. I checked the French Wikipedia and its linked references for both sisters and I googled for their names and any information such as their parents' names or any spouse's names, and I found nothing. The only personal information I did find was in this newspaper article linked from the French Wikipedia, and it does not talk about their names or name their other family members. -- 69.159.62.113 ( talk) 06:53, 26 April 2018 (UTC) reply

(ec) Joséphine's father is Athos Rembi, according to this translated Le Parisien article, and Jacques-André-Coquin is a real, if somewhat preposterous, surname (see this obituary of a probably unrelated person). (If she has brothers, are any of them named D'Artagnan, Porthos or Aramis?) Clarityfiend ( talk) 06:57, 26 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Ok, thanks for this last information. So, there are two possible solutions: Joséphine is born as «Joséphine Rembi» und later married a man named «Jacques-André-Coquin» and took his name, or her mother's name is «Jacques-André-Coquin» and she took the mother's name and Lauren the father's. It's possible in France, I think so. Or they are half-sisters from same mother but different father... Anybody with another info? Leonprimer ( talk) 19:14, 26 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Why would you think they were half-sisters? Joséphine's father is Athos Rembi, and Lauren's last name is Rembi. That would require Lauren's last name to have been something else to begin with. Clarityfiend ( talk) 23:42, 26 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Note that the source you linked to seems to be saying they have the same father as he's the one quoted saying he's (or we're) proud of his (or our) two daughters etc. It's not impossible however that she's his daughter but not his biological daughter. (I'm not saying this is likely, however someone referring to their daughter doesn't have to mean she's their biological daughter at least in English. And children do sometimes keep the surnames of their biological father sometimes even if the person had little or nothing to do with them from an early age if at all.) Is there anything in there that in French implies either one is his biological daughter? Also could someone verify whether the 'our' etc is a mistranslation or he's speaking in the plural? Nil Einne ( talk) 12:33, 27 April 2018 (UTC) reply

This source suggests the Challenge Mondial U17 2006 Épée Dame was won by Jacques André Coquin Joséphine [3]. It's a 2017 page so it's not impossible someone put her current name rather than her name at the time, however it is a page on the event rather than the athelete making it IMO significantly less likely. France does allow marriage below the age of 18 with the permission of parents and the court per our Marriageable age article, so it's not impossible she was 17 or younger but again it seems a lot less likely. (I don't know the eligibility requirements for this particular tournament but someone who is 17 when some tournament is taking place is sometimes eligible for an under 17 tournament). Nil Einne ( talk) 11:53, 27 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Looking at [4], she came 82's in an event in Bratislava at the end of 2005 and 2nd in an event in Dijon at the beginning of 2006. Contempory media reports of her achievements at the time may be useful. Nil Einne ( talk) 11:58, 27 April 2018 (UTC) reply

• According to Naming law#France : "Since 1993 the choice has been free in France unless it is decided that the name is contrary to the interests of the child." Basically, unless you named your child "Connard" or some other similarly offensive name, the French don't care what you name him or her. It is entirely legal and possible that the parents of these sisters decided to give them different last names. We needn't hunt for any more convoluted possibility than "That's what their mother and father named each of them." -- Jayron 32 12:03, 27 April 2018 (UTC) reply

It's possible however per our article, she was born in 1990 so either they would have had to change her name 3 years after birth or maybe French law didn't come in to it at birth (do we know if she was even born in Franch?) or it was allowed pre 1993. Nil Einne ( talk) 12:35, 27 April 2018 (UTC) reply

That also would require that all laws are equally vigorously enforced. In reality many (possibly most) such laws sit around unenforced for years before someone decides to take them out of the code. It is also very likely that even if the name were technically illegal in 1990, no one would have done anything about it. -- Jayron 32 16:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC) reply

This source linked in our article [5] says Lauren Rembi's mother is from Martinique. It quotes Le Parisien on a certain date, while I did find one source discussing her on that date it only seems to mention other stuff including her studies and how she stopped living with her sister, with no mention of any husband [6]. Nil Einne ( talk) 12:33, 27 April 2018 (UTC) reply

The 90 feet grows, I think barrier(s) appear between bases.. Sagittarian Milky Way ( talk) 03:10, 26 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Angels in the Outfield (1994 film)? Adam Bishop ( talk) 11:38, 26 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Was there a living, flying baseball with teeth that chased the guy? Sagittarian Milky Way ( talk) 22:52, 26 April 2018 (UTC) reply