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german Wikipedia question: Is there an english term for something like "culture clash comedy"

Hi, in german we have the term "Culture-Clash-Komödie" for movies like Bend It Like Beckham, Rush Hour (1998 film) or Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis, in which a funny clash of cultures plays a major role in those films. Do you have a term for that or even an wikipedia article, which I may have overlooked? Greetings -- Zulu55en ( talk) 14:12, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply

Well, there's a fish out of water comedy, which might apply if one person was placed in an alien culture. StuRat ( talk) 14:23, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
Thanks, I think this fits. -- Zulu55en ( talk) 15:00, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
I would say that "culture-clash comedy" is a much better term to describe this kind of film than "fish out of water comedy", especially since Culture-Clash-Komödie looks like it's been borrowed from English in the first place. -- Viennese Waltz 15:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
But have you actually heard that term used much in English ? I haven't. StuRat ( talk) 03:54, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply
"Culture clash comedy" gets 207,000 google hits, while "fish out of water comedy" gets 545,000. But the terms are not strictly synonymous. I would say that Bend It Like Beckham, for example, is a culture-clash comedy but not a fish out of water comedy. Something like Crocodile Dundee would be both. -- Viennese Waltz 05:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply
Usually films are labeled as such as a way to appeal to a specific audience demographic, note "audience", in U.S. culture one usually gives their money to the box office for action/comedy/romance comedy/children etc. and as with the now defunct musicals and westerns that once dominated, audience and culture changes, perhaps in German culture films about clashes of culture do quite well whereas for North Americans we don't usually pay to see that on film per se, Hollywood is smart in that they know their audiences (dearth of musicals and westerns today compared to 50-60-70 years ago) and will blend films for both international and American tastes so a film may be both categories. It's also why some films completely flop with American boxoffice but turn out to be the top 25 all time internationally. In short a direct translation for that term may not exist for the sole reason that German culture appreciates and admires comedy such as that and American culture doesn't. Marketdiamond ( talk) 04:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC) reply

Wikipedia page content dump based on category Film songs or album song

I would like to fetch all page text information of all wiki pages that belong to a movie category. Eg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hindi_songs

From the page text I would like to extract information related to song title, song length, singer, name of movie/album etc. I am not interested in extracting images just the information about the song.

My questions:

1) Is there a way to download only those pages that I am interested in that belong to a particular category instead of downloading the entire dump?

2) Is it required to have PHP knowledge to install the db dump on a local machine?

3) Are there are tools that extract the information for example: by using a preferred web crawler?

If this is not the right forum to have my questions answered could you please redirect me to the appropriate forum.


VENKATESHCHANNAL ( talk) 14:54, 8 October 2012 (UTC)Venkatesh reply

Wikipedia:Help desk is probably a better place to ask. The best idea I have is to use the book creator tool in the left-side column. You can then add the category to the book, which will automatically add all of the pages in the category to the book. You can download the book in a few formats, but I don't know if they will be easy to strip down to just the information you want. 209.131.76.183 ( talk) 17:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply

dota

Some one knows wich team won the 2012 world’s dota championships?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iskander HFC ( talkcontribs) 15:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply

Sorry, what is dota? I don't see a competition listed at DOTA which would have a championship. Could you elaborate? -- Jayron 32 16:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
Defense of the Ancients and Dota 2 both do. -- Finlay McWalter Talk 16:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
I just checked and they do. Hm. Good call. Is that what you're looking for?-- Jayron 32 16:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
If it is that video game, then here are the most recent champions. -- Jayron 32 16:51, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
Yes, it's about that game, I don't answer you earlier beacouse I had to see the friend who askme in the first place
now I can’t see the link, (I don’t know why and really don’t have time to see what’s happening and fixit) … could you tellme who won the championship??
well… any way thanks very much for your answers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iskander HFC ( talkcontribs) 00:15, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply
Acording to This link here when you click the link that says "click to reveal the champions" it states that Invictus Gaming won the grand prize, and Natus Vincere was first runner up. There's a half dozen other teams listed among the top 8 finishers. -- Jayron 32 02:06, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply
thaks again!! I'll tell my friend — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iskander HFC ( talkcontribs) 03:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC) reply
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October 8 Information

german Wikipedia question: Is there an english term for something like "culture clash comedy"

Hi, in german we have the term "Culture-Clash-Komödie" for movies like Bend It Like Beckham, Rush Hour (1998 film) or Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis, in which a funny clash of cultures plays a major role in those films. Do you have a term for that or even an wikipedia article, which I may have overlooked? Greetings -- Zulu55en ( talk) 14:12, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply

Well, there's a fish out of water comedy, which might apply if one person was placed in an alien culture. StuRat ( talk) 14:23, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
Thanks, I think this fits. -- Zulu55en ( talk) 15:00, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
I would say that "culture-clash comedy" is a much better term to describe this kind of film than "fish out of water comedy", especially since Culture-Clash-Komödie looks like it's been borrowed from English in the first place. -- Viennese Waltz 15:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
But have you actually heard that term used much in English ? I haven't. StuRat ( talk) 03:54, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply
"Culture clash comedy" gets 207,000 google hits, while "fish out of water comedy" gets 545,000. But the terms are not strictly synonymous. I would say that Bend It Like Beckham, for example, is a culture-clash comedy but not a fish out of water comedy. Something like Crocodile Dundee would be both. -- Viennese Waltz 05:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply
Usually films are labeled as such as a way to appeal to a specific audience demographic, note "audience", in U.S. culture one usually gives their money to the box office for action/comedy/romance comedy/children etc. and as with the now defunct musicals and westerns that once dominated, audience and culture changes, perhaps in German culture films about clashes of culture do quite well whereas for North Americans we don't usually pay to see that on film per se, Hollywood is smart in that they know their audiences (dearth of musicals and westerns today compared to 50-60-70 years ago) and will blend films for both international and American tastes so a film may be both categories. It's also why some films completely flop with American boxoffice but turn out to be the top 25 all time internationally. In short a direct translation for that term may not exist for the sole reason that German culture appreciates and admires comedy such as that and American culture doesn't. Marketdiamond ( talk) 04:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC) reply

Wikipedia page content dump based on category Film songs or album song

I would like to fetch all page text information of all wiki pages that belong to a movie category. Eg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hindi_songs

From the page text I would like to extract information related to song title, song length, singer, name of movie/album etc. I am not interested in extracting images just the information about the song.

My questions:

1) Is there a way to download only those pages that I am interested in that belong to a particular category instead of downloading the entire dump?

2) Is it required to have PHP knowledge to install the db dump on a local machine?

3) Are there are tools that extract the information for example: by using a preferred web crawler?

If this is not the right forum to have my questions answered could you please redirect me to the appropriate forum.


VENKATESHCHANNAL ( talk) 14:54, 8 October 2012 (UTC)Venkatesh reply

Wikipedia:Help desk is probably a better place to ask. The best idea I have is to use the book creator tool in the left-side column. You can then add the category to the book, which will automatically add all of the pages in the category to the book. You can download the book in a few formats, but I don't know if they will be easy to strip down to just the information you want. 209.131.76.183 ( talk) 17:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply

dota

Some one knows wich team won the 2012 world’s dota championships?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iskander HFC ( talkcontribs) 15:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply

Sorry, what is dota? I don't see a competition listed at DOTA which would have a championship. Could you elaborate? -- Jayron 32 16:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
Defense of the Ancients and Dota 2 both do. -- Finlay McWalter Talk 16:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
I just checked and they do. Hm. Good call. Is that what you're looking for?-- Jayron 32 16:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
If it is that video game, then here are the most recent champions. -- Jayron 32 16:51, 8 October 2012 (UTC) reply
Yes, it's about that game, I don't answer you earlier beacouse I had to see the friend who askme in the first place
now I can’t see the link, (I don’t know why and really don’t have time to see what’s happening and fixit) … could you tellme who won the championship??
well… any way thanks very much for your answers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iskander HFC ( talkcontribs) 00:15, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply
Acording to This link here when you click the link that says "click to reveal the champions" it states that Invictus Gaming won the grand prize, and Natus Vincere was first runner up. There's a half dozen other teams listed among the top 8 finishers. -- Jayron 32 02:06, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply
thaks again!! I'll tell my friend — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iskander HFC ( talkcontribs) 03:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC) reply

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