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Thomas & Uber Cup (Badminton)
Friends, i am a resident of India and an aspiring badminton pro. I wish to watch the thomas & Uber Badminton Cup on TV or computer. can you please inform me as in which indian channel or web tv or any other medium is it being shown, its timings, etc. Bye. Kvees. —Preceding
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164.100.1.97 (
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05:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Maybe try searching google. No one here is really that inelegant, we just use google to find answers. Cut out the middle man and do it yourself and safe all the time! —Preceding
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Delvenore (
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11:11, 3 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Olympic medals ceremony
Are there some nations that do not have a national anthem? I assume "yes", but I am not sure. If so, what song do they play at the Olympics medal ceremony if that nation's athlete wins the gold medal? Also, what national anthem (or what song) do they play if the gold medal is awarded to athletes from, say, a
mixed-nation team? Thank you. (
64.252.68.102 (
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14:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC))reply
As I recall, during games that were played soon after the CCCP broke up and before they fully re-established themselves as just "Russia", there was some kind of generic anthem played - possibly an Olympic-related song. ←
Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→
14:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
The key question would be whether it was their choice or the IOC's choice. For example, let's suppose
Sealand had won the hockey tournament and had no anthem. They might have opted for "We Are the Champions", or "Celebration", or maybe even "Hey, Jude". ←
Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→
15:12, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
My understanding is that countries that are members of the IOC advise it of what their anthem is, and that is what is used. However, some teams do not represent member countries, such as the previously-mentioned Unified Team in 1992. In this case the Olympic Anthem is used. I believe that Taiwan (which competes under the name
Chinese Taipei in the Olympics) falls in the same category. Some countries have borrowed another country's anthem: at the
Lake Placid Games, Liechtenstein used "
God Save the King" as their anthem at the time, since they did not have a "national" anthem (not sure if that has changed). At the
FIFA World Cup,
Scotland (and presumably Northern Ireland and Wales, although they haven't qualified for a finals for a while) does not have an anthem of its own. --
Xuxl (
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15:49, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
I would be interested to know why exactly it is the OP assumes there even are countries with no national anthem. I'd instantly assume the opposite, and would be surprised to find a country with no anthem.
TomorrowTime (
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08:45, 3 March 2010 (UTC)reply
There are probably nations without official national anthems. Even the USA was in that category when the Olympics started. But a song doesn't need an official mandate from the government to be the National Anthem. If everyone assumes that it is the anthem then it is.
Perhaps really new or recently reorganized countries might not have a current anthem? Even if they were in that situation, it'd be easy enough for that country's Olympic committee to pick some vaguely patriotic tune and hand it over to the IOC.
APL (
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15:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)reply
To TomorrowTime – I am the OP. I had assumed that most countries do indeed have a national anthem. But, I was thinking that — throughout history, not necessarily today — there might be several reasons that a country might not have a national anthem. The map is constantly changing and new countries are being "added" and "subtracted" all the time. (That is, countries overtake other countries ... or, some countries break apart from others, thereby establishing themselves as a "new" country ... and the like.) Sometimes, I assume that there might be a very brief window between these events and the actual holding of the Olympic Games of that particular year. Thus, the "new" country (or newly-formed or newly-recognized or newly-reorganized country) might not have had quite enough time to pick a national anthem. In the midst of political upheaval and restructuring, I'd think that they would have bigger fish to fry than worrying about a song. That was the underlying basis of my original question as the OP. Also, as pointed out above, sometimes a country might not have an official national anthem ... and therefore, technically at least, they have no national anthem. So, I was not sure how the Olympics powers-that-be handle these unusual circumstances as they popped up throughout history. Thanks. (
64.252.68.102 (
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17:27, 3 March 2010 (UTC))reply
Perhaps my wonder came from the fact that I am a citizen of exactly such a "new country" myself :) Here in Slovenia, the anthem was declared anthem at the same moment as independence had been declared (and it had been chosen for this role way beforehand), and I think the same goes for other ex-Yugoslav countries as well. But you are right, a set of circumstances such as the one you describe above is conceivable, even if it is in my opinion not very likely.
By the way, an interesting historic tidbit from around the day of independence here in Slovenia: while the anthem really was chosen well beforehand, the flag was not, and had been designed only a little before the big event. On the morning following the declaration of independence, a video was shown on Slovene TV, showing some people climbing to the top of
Triglav, highest mountain and something of a national symbol itself, and placing the Slovene flag on top, to let it fly its colors and all that patriotic stuff. The only problem is, at the time the video was shot, a couple of days before the independence, the finalized design for the flag had not yet been known, so the flag doesn't have the coat of arms on it. Without the coat of arms, the Slovene flag is essentially the flag of Russia :) Unfortunately, I can't find the video on youtube...
TomorrowTime (
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13:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)reply
I already asked this question on German Wikipedia, I'll ask also here: is there a list of all athletes with disability who ever participated in the Olympic Games? Here "disability" means any disability, be it bodily or intellectual. So far I have only 4 on my own list (McKeever, du Toit, Partyka, Parkin). Does somebody know more? I'm "collecting" high achievements by disabled people.--
Alexmagnus2 (
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16:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Disability can cover a lot of conditions, and a lot of athletes may not want to publicize their disabilities, especially if they're not relevant to the sport they are practicing. McKeever will be the first athlete to compete in the Olympic and Paralympic Games in the same year. I recall hearing the story of a Hungarian shooter who won gold both before and after World War II, even though he lost an arm in the conflict. Someone may know the name. (found him:
Karoly Takacs) --
Xuxl (
talk)
17:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Neroli Fairhall was the first paraplegic to compete at the Olympic games, coming 35th in archery in 1984. She won a
commonwealth gold in 1982, and competed in both athletics and archery in the paralympics. Perhaps it would be worth creating a category for those who have compteted at regular and paralympics.
Gwinva (
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03:28, 5 March 2010 (UTC)reply
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Thomas & Uber Cup (Badminton)
Friends, i am a resident of India and an aspiring badminton pro. I wish to watch the thomas & Uber Badminton Cup on TV or computer. can you please inform me as in which indian channel or web tv or any other medium is it being shown, its timings, etc. Bye. Kvees. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
164.100.1.97 (
talk)
05:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Maybe try searching google. No one here is really that inelegant, we just use google to find answers. Cut out the middle man and do it yourself and safe all the time! —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Delvenore (
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contribs)
11:11, 3 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Olympic medals ceremony
Are there some nations that do not have a national anthem? I assume "yes", but I am not sure. If so, what song do they play at the Olympics medal ceremony if that nation's athlete wins the gold medal? Also, what national anthem (or what song) do they play if the gold medal is awarded to athletes from, say, a
mixed-nation team? Thank you. (
64.252.68.102 (
talk)
14:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC))reply
As I recall, during games that were played soon after the CCCP broke up and before they fully re-established themselves as just "Russia", there was some kind of generic anthem played - possibly an Olympic-related song. ←
Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→
14:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
The key question would be whether it was their choice or the IOC's choice. For example, let's suppose
Sealand had won the hockey tournament and had no anthem. They might have opted for "We Are the Champions", or "Celebration", or maybe even "Hey, Jude". ←
Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→
15:12, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
My understanding is that countries that are members of the IOC advise it of what their anthem is, and that is what is used. However, some teams do not represent member countries, such as the previously-mentioned Unified Team in 1992. In this case the Olympic Anthem is used. I believe that Taiwan (which competes under the name
Chinese Taipei in the Olympics) falls in the same category. Some countries have borrowed another country's anthem: at the
Lake Placid Games, Liechtenstein used "
God Save the King" as their anthem at the time, since they did not have a "national" anthem (not sure if that has changed). At the
FIFA World Cup,
Scotland (and presumably Northern Ireland and Wales, although they haven't qualified for a finals for a while) does not have an anthem of its own. --
Xuxl (
talk)
15:49, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
I would be interested to know why exactly it is the OP assumes there even are countries with no national anthem. I'd instantly assume the opposite, and would be surprised to find a country with no anthem.
TomorrowTime (
talk)
08:45, 3 March 2010 (UTC)reply
There are probably nations without official national anthems. Even the USA was in that category when the Olympics started. But a song doesn't need an official mandate from the government to be the National Anthem. If everyone assumes that it is the anthem then it is.
Perhaps really new or recently reorganized countries might not have a current anthem? Even if they were in that situation, it'd be easy enough for that country's Olympic committee to pick some vaguely patriotic tune and hand it over to the IOC.
APL (
talk)
15:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)reply
To TomorrowTime – I am the OP. I had assumed that most countries do indeed have a national anthem. But, I was thinking that — throughout history, not necessarily today — there might be several reasons that a country might not have a national anthem. The map is constantly changing and new countries are being "added" and "subtracted" all the time. (That is, countries overtake other countries ... or, some countries break apart from others, thereby establishing themselves as a "new" country ... and the like.) Sometimes, I assume that there might be a very brief window between these events and the actual holding of the Olympic Games of that particular year. Thus, the "new" country (or newly-formed or newly-recognized or newly-reorganized country) might not have had quite enough time to pick a national anthem. In the midst of political upheaval and restructuring, I'd think that they would have bigger fish to fry than worrying about a song. That was the underlying basis of my original question as the OP. Also, as pointed out above, sometimes a country might not have an official national anthem ... and therefore, technically at least, they have no national anthem. So, I was not sure how the Olympics powers-that-be handle these unusual circumstances as they popped up throughout history. Thanks. (
64.252.68.102 (
talk)
17:27, 3 March 2010 (UTC))reply
Perhaps my wonder came from the fact that I am a citizen of exactly such a "new country" myself :) Here in Slovenia, the anthem was declared anthem at the same moment as independence had been declared (and it had been chosen for this role way beforehand), and I think the same goes for other ex-Yugoslav countries as well. But you are right, a set of circumstances such as the one you describe above is conceivable, even if it is in my opinion not very likely.
By the way, an interesting historic tidbit from around the day of independence here in Slovenia: while the anthem really was chosen well beforehand, the flag was not, and had been designed only a little before the big event. On the morning following the declaration of independence, a video was shown on Slovene TV, showing some people climbing to the top of
Triglav, highest mountain and something of a national symbol itself, and placing the Slovene flag on top, to let it fly its colors and all that patriotic stuff. The only problem is, at the time the video was shot, a couple of days before the independence, the finalized design for the flag had not yet been known, so the flag doesn't have the coat of arms on it. Without the coat of arms, the Slovene flag is essentially the flag of Russia :) Unfortunately, I can't find the video on youtube...
TomorrowTime (
talk)
13:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)reply
I already asked this question on German Wikipedia, I'll ask also here: is there a list of all athletes with disability who ever participated in the Olympic Games? Here "disability" means any disability, be it bodily or intellectual. So far I have only 4 on my own list (McKeever, du Toit, Partyka, Parkin). Does somebody know more? I'm "collecting" high achievements by disabled people.--
Alexmagnus2 (
talk)
16:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Disability can cover a lot of conditions, and a lot of athletes may not want to publicize their disabilities, especially if they're not relevant to the sport they are practicing. McKeever will be the first athlete to compete in the Olympic and Paralympic Games in the same year. I recall hearing the story of a Hungarian shooter who won gold both before and after World War II, even though he lost an arm in the conflict. Someone may know the name. (found him:
Karoly Takacs) --
Xuxl (
talk)
17:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Neroli Fairhall was the first paraplegic to compete at the Olympic games, coming 35th in archery in 1984. She won a
commonwealth gold in 1982, and competed in both athletics and archery in the paralympics. Perhaps it would be worth creating a category for those who have compteted at regular and paralympics.
Gwinva (
talk)
03:28, 5 March 2010 (UTC)reply