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Wikipedia:Damianos Sotheby's International Realty
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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Redirects created when moving pages unambiguously created in the wrong namespace can be speedy deleted under criterion G6.
Thryduulf (
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19:56, 11 September 2014 (UTC)reply
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Olga Aleksandrovna Sedakova
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User:CakeProphet
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Bypass all incoming links and delete since this username is available, so someone taking it will have an inappropriate redirected user and talk pages --
70.51.201.202 (
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04:37, 11 September 2014 (UTC)reply
strong keep.
User:The prophet wizard of the crayon cake linked to their userpage via this redirect in their signature so deletion would break hundreds of links in old discussions. My understanding is that the system will not allow this username to be registered while the redirect to another username exists (I can't test this while it is not a redirect though) so the anon's concerns will not happen. While these links could be retargetted, old discussions should not be edited without a very good reason, and I do not see this as a good reason let alone a very good reason.
Thryduulf (
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08:53, 11 September 2014 (UTC)reply
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Фонд Викимедиа
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Delete as above.
ru:Фонд Викимедиа already exists and is Interwiki linked. Perhaps I shouldn't grumble, but the way now Interwiki links are done rather than adding them manually like we used to do in the good old days, tends to multiply useless Interwiki links. Now, doing the IW was a right old pain if one had a few languages one had collated an article from; but it had the advantage that one could pick and choose (and not necessarily direct to the exactly parallel topic but to a near but more informative topic); it was quite frequent to go around the houses, for me, from English to German to Spanish to French to Hungarian or whatever, then back to English, and find myself going from
London Transport to
LPTB or whatever, in a series of
Chinese whispers. I am not sure that was a bad thing, on the whole; as BD pointed out recently elsewhere and which I wholeheartely agree with, we are here to serve readers looking for information, and I am not sure that this automatic IW stuff helps that: it saves editors some effort, but harms readers searching. (End of diatribe.)
Si Trew (
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14:47, 15 September 2014 (UTC)reply
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國際象棋
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If there is a part detailing (speculation follows) how "xiangqi" has been taken to mean
Xiangqi and therefore authority has to settle with adding "international" to the Chinese name then it is possibly OK to redirect to that section. Otherwise delete per not translation dictionary.
野狼院ひさしHisashiYarouin03:06, 11 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Ah, but is it used by mistake? We don't have stats on how long someone stays on the target page. (We could implement some naughtiness to do a
watchdog timer, but that would be against WP philosophy, I think.) My guess is they are better served at
zh:國際象棋.
Si Trew (
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09:58, 17 September 2014 (UTC)reply
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Daegu International Film Festival
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You're right. This is a bit odd I looked at
Ping'an for example and it is a DAB, almost all of which are redlinks (which obviously a DAB should not have). That might be an exception, because most of the entries at that DAB are to places in China, not North Korea.
Busan International School is an R to
Busan Foreign School which is in South Korea (so it says). That is just my plucking examples more or less at random; I am sure others would tend to the same conclu. All in mid-2007. Something is a bit fishy here.
Si Trew (
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15:00, 15 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Going round the houses,
1999 IIHF Asian Oceanic Junior U18 Championship exists via R to DABs to Rs to DABs etc. The Champ is probably the best to judge this (I don't write Chinese or Hangul, but can parse katakana and hiragana) but I doubt an English speaker would ever think to type that title into a search bar. These were created en masse in summer of 2007, but I would not like to judge by whom. As a native English speaker, they seem very well written in English: and all tied up etc (wish I was that good an editor) but I would guess either China or North Korea. Some are to South Korea but that is perhaps just a bit if diplomacy (there was a superb statement from North Korea yesterday which
BBC Monitoring picked up, for example, that a British citizen had been given
hard labour for six years for some bit of naughtiness and the British are asking for him back to serve the time in the UK: the question in my head is why would North Korea be so nice rather than just take him out the back and put a bullet through his head, no questions asked? Something fishy with that one too.
Ambrose Bierce defines Diplomat in the
Devil's Dictionary as "A man sent abroad to lie for his country").
Si Trew (
talk)
15:08, 15 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Your cub reporter is on the case, as you see. Give me the tools I shall do the job. Not found a geographical IP for it yet. Vermi, Verbum: probat. To be clear, I got
Exeter Academy after jumping through hoops of the various DABs and Rs that Benjamin pointed to. Deliberately I am doing it here without links so we don't weave the web closer.
Si Trew (
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15:24, 15 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Re "without links" - are you aware that if you link to [[:Foo]] the colon means it doesn't show up in Foo's what-links-here list?
DexDor (
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19:52, 15 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Nah, I was not aware of that. I always sign for myself and suffer the consequences! I only use that form for Interwiki links etc. That spins another yarn, then. That might be quite relevant, DexDor, because tracing the creator of these Rs to articles (that I tink are
WP:PROMO) has taken me a lot of time but I got nowhere. Should we take the articles themselves to AfD? Then obviously the Rs follow. It seems like a promo for various language schools.
Si Trew (
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10:02, 17 September 2014 (UTC)reply
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 11, 2014.
Wikipedia:Damianos Sotheby's International Realty
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Redirects created when moving pages unambiguously created in the wrong namespace can be speedy deleted under criterion G6.
Thryduulf (
talk)
19:56, 11 September 2014 (UTC)reply
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Olga Aleksandrovna Sedakova
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User:CakeProphet
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Bypass all incoming links and delete since this username is available, so someone taking it will have an inappropriate redirected user and talk pages --
70.51.201.202 (
talk)
04:37, 11 September 2014 (UTC)reply
strong keep.
User:The prophet wizard of the crayon cake linked to their userpage via this redirect in their signature so deletion would break hundreds of links in old discussions. My understanding is that the system will not allow this username to be registered while the redirect to another username exists (I can't test this while it is not a redirect though) so the anon's concerns will not happen. While these links could be retargetted, old discussions should not be edited without a very good reason, and I do not see this as a good reason let alone a very good reason.
Thryduulf (
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08:53, 11 September 2014 (UTC)reply
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Фонд Викимедиа
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Delete as above.
ru:Фонд Викимедиа already exists and is Interwiki linked. Perhaps I shouldn't grumble, but the way now Interwiki links are done rather than adding them manually like we used to do in the good old days, tends to multiply useless Interwiki links. Now, doing the IW was a right old pain if one had a few languages one had collated an article from; but it had the advantage that one could pick and choose (and not necessarily direct to the exactly parallel topic but to a near but more informative topic); it was quite frequent to go around the houses, for me, from English to German to Spanish to French to Hungarian or whatever, then back to English, and find myself going from
London Transport to
LPTB or whatever, in a series of
Chinese whispers. I am not sure that was a bad thing, on the whole; as BD pointed out recently elsewhere and which I wholeheartely agree with, we are here to serve readers looking for information, and I am not sure that this automatic IW stuff helps that: it saves editors some effort, but harms readers searching. (End of diatribe.)
Si Trew (
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14:47, 15 September 2014 (UTC)reply
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國際象棋
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If there is a part detailing (speculation follows) how "xiangqi" has been taken to mean
Xiangqi and therefore authority has to settle with adding "international" to the Chinese name then it is possibly OK to redirect to that section. Otherwise delete per not translation dictionary.
野狼院ひさしHisashiYarouin03:06, 11 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Ah, but is it used by mistake? We don't have stats on how long someone stays on the target page. (We could implement some naughtiness to do a
watchdog timer, but that would be against WP philosophy, I think.) My guess is they are better served at
zh:國際象棋.
Si Trew (
talk)
09:58, 17 September 2014 (UTC)reply
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Daegu International Film Festival
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You're right. This is a bit odd I looked at
Ping'an for example and it is a DAB, almost all of which are redlinks (which obviously a DAB should not have). That might be an exception, because most of the entries at that DAB are to places in China, not North Korea.
Busan International School is an R to
Busan Foreign School which is in South Korea (so it says). That is just my plucking examples more or less at random; I am sure others would tend to the same conclu. All in mid-2007. Something is a bit fishy here.
Si Trew (
talk)
15:00, 15 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Going round the houses,
1999 IIHF Asian Oceanic Junior U18 Championship exists via R to DABs to Rs to DABs etc. The Champ is probably the best to judge this (I don't write Chinese or Hangul, but can parse katakana and hiragana) but I doubt an English speaker would ever think to type that title into a search bar. These were created en masse in summer of 2007, but I would not like to judge by whom. As a native English speaker, they seem very well written in English: and all tied up etc (wish I was that good an editor) but I would guess either China or North Korea. Some are to South Korea but that is perhaps just a bit if diplomacy (there was a superb statement from North Korea yesterday which
BBC Monitoring picked up, for example, that a British citizen had been given
hard labour for six years for some bit of naughtiness and the British are asking for him back to serve the time in the UK: the question in my head is why would North Korea be so nice rather than just take him out the back and put a bullet through his head, no questions asked? Something fishy with that one too.
Ambrose Bierce defines Diplomat in the
Devil's Dictionary as "A man sent abroad to lie for his country").
Si Trew (
talk)
15:08, 15 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Your cub reporter is on the case, as you see. Give me the tools I shall do the job. Not found a geographical IP for it yet. Vermi, Verbum: probat. To be clear, I got
Exeter Academy after jumping through hoops of the various DABs and Rs that Benjamin pointed to. Deliberately I am doing it here without links so we don't weave the web closer.
Si Trew (
talk)
15:24, 15 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Re "without links" - are you aware that if you link to [[:Foo]] the colon means it doesn't show up in Foo's what-links-here list?
DexDor (
talk)
19:52, 15 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Nah, I was not aware of that. I always sign for myself and suffer the consequences! I only use that form for Interwiki links etc. That spins another yarn, then. That might be quite relevant, DexDor, because tracing the creator of these Rs to articles (that I tink are
WP:PROMO) has taken me a lot of time but I got nowhere. Should we take the articles themselves to AfD? Then obviously the Rs follow. It seems like a promo for various language schools.
Si Trew (
talk)
10:02, 17 September 2014 (UTC)reply
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