This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 17, 2013
Genetic Misconceptions
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Wikipedia:EWNB
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
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The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete but also a clear consensus not to leave it as-is. The arguments to retarget with mutual hatnotes or convert to a disambiguation page are balanced. WhatLinksHere now shows very thin use so I'm assuming that at least some of the pages mentioned below have been updated with direct-links, leaving me to rely on Thryduulf's quantitative analysis.
No consensus to delete is sufficient to close this discussion. As an ordinary-editor decision but informed by the discussion below, I am going to convert the page to disambiguation content. Hatnotes on the various pages remain an excellent idea.
Rossami(talk)21:15, 11 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Neutral. This gets quite a bit of traffic, but it's not possible to say whether they were intending the current target or the proposed one. I'm inclined to think that if the majority of people were ending at the wrong place someone would have added a hatnote by now (whichever target is chosen, the other should be linked from a hatnote). There are only 4 incoming links that are uses, 3 intending the current target and 1 (the most recent) the proposed target - but that's really not enough to base a firm judgement on. Both traffic and link stats weakly favour the current target, but against that is that the English Wikipedians' notice board (where this redirect originally pointed and what it represents) has long since been merged to the UK Wikipedians' notice board and that the proposed target is by far the busier page. To me these completely balance out and so I am really not sure which target I favour!
Thryduulf (
talk)
10:40, 6 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Why can this not be resolved with a hatnote?
bd2412T 12:26, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I agree, in most cases a hatnote is better than a dab page for a shortcut. I still don't know which target I prefer, but it should definitely point to one and have a hatnote to the other.
Thryduulf (
talk)
22:42, 6 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Retarget per nom but add a hatnote to cover the previous target. I agree that making shortcuts into dabs is generally undesirable. --
BDD (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Retarget WP:EWNB to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring, with a hatnote at the new target leading to the old target. --
Guy Macon (
talk)
17:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Comment: It's common for Japanese titles to have that punctuation. when the reader sees the romaji, he/she will understand. I may have gotten the all caps version from a copyright notice on a web page. I'll have to take a look.
WhisperToMe (
talk)
03:58, 17 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Keep as harmless, but mark as {{unprintworthy}}. The stats show quite significant usage, but given the activity around the redirect it's not a definitive statement of regular use in recent months, but even looking at the last few months of 2012 (when the history was quiet) it was regularly getting hits above background noise.
Thryduulf (
talk)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 17, 2013
Genetic Misconceptions
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
Wikipedia:EWNB
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete but also a clear consensus not to leave it as-is. The arguments to retarget with mutual hatnotes or convert to a disambiguation page are balanced. WhatLinksHere now shows very thin use so I'm assuming that at least some of the pages mentioned below have been updated with direct-links, leaving me to rely on Thryduulf's quantitative analysis.
No consensus to delete is sufficient to close this discussion. As an ordinary-editor decision but informed by the discussion below, I am going to convert the page to disambiguation content. Hatnotes on the various pages remain an excellent idea.
Rossami(talk)21:15, 11 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Neutral. This gets quite a bit of traffic, but it's not possible to say whether they were intending the current target or the proposed one. I'm inclined to think that if the majority of people were ending at the wrong place someone would have added a hatnote by now (whichever target is chosen, the other should be linked from a hatnote). There are only 4 incoming links that are uses, 3 intending the current target and 1 (the most recent) the proposed target - but that's really not enough to base a firm judgement on. Both traffic and link stats weakly favour the current target, but against that is that the English Wikipedians' notice board (where this redirect originally pointed and what it represents) has long since been merged to the UK Wikipedians' notice board and that the proposed target is by far the busier page. To me these completely balance out and so I am really not sure which target I favour!
Thryduulf (
talk)
10:40, 6 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Why can this not be resolved with a hatnote?
bd2412T 12:26, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I agree, in most cases a hatnote is better than a dab page for a shortcut. I still don't know which target I prefer, but it should definitely point to one and have a hatnote to the other.
Thryduulf (
talk)
22:42, 6 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Retarget per nom but add a hatnote to cover the previous target. I agree that making shortcuts into dabs is generally undesirable. --
BDD (
talk)
18:31, 10 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Retarget WP:EWNB to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring, with a hatnote at the new target leading to the old target. --
Guy Macon (
talk)
17:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Comment: It's common for Japanese titles to have that punctuation. when the reader sees the romaji, he/she will understand. I may have gotten the all caps version from a copyright notice on a web page. I'll have to take a look.
WhisperToMe (
talk)
03:58, 17 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Keep as harmless, but mark as {{unprintworthy}}. The stats show quite significant usage, but given the activity around the redirect it's not a definitive statement of regular use in recent months, but even looking at the last few months of 2012 (when the history was quiet) it was regularly getting hits above background noise.
Thryduulf (
talk)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.