Speedy delete - This page was deleted at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sabacc (2nd nomination). I don't have access to the deleted version but the basis for deletion was the lack of secondary sources and since there are still no secondary sources the new version does not meet "any changes do not address the reasons for which the material was deleted". Consequently I have tagged it as a G4. The page was redirected and then brought here; that is not the way to do it; we should address the underlying page. If it is a recreation then it will now be deleted; in the highly unlikely eventuality that it is enough of an improvement not to get speedied then a further AFD is in order.
Bridgeplayer (
talk)
15:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
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Editions La Decouverte & Editions La Découverte
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deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Deletion/Re-targetting - I can't find any evidence supporting the fact that the former publisher is part of the latter. Indeed, there's a contradictory statement in
François Maspero - "In 1983, Maspero publishing house was transformed into the Éditions La Découverte, later bought by Vivendi Universal Publishing."
TB (
talk)
16:09, 31 May 2010 (UTC)reply
The nominator (me) knows next to nothing about French publishing houses and accordingly listed it for discussion rather than just fixing it himself. -
TB (
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06:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
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Captain Loyal Hawk
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Captain Loyal Hawk is one of hundreds of characters in the
Duck universe who appeared only once. Concensus has been to not include one-time Duck universe characters on the list. Because Captain Loyal Hawk is not even mentioned on the character list, this redirect should be deleted.
Neelix (
talk)
14:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Delete as nominator - There is no purpose in retaining the history of an article about a non-notable subject. If we were to do so, we would never delete any article.
Neelix (
talk)
18:29, 31 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Retarget to
Duck family (Disney) which has relevant information. This redirect gets some hits each month so readers are obviously seeking information so it is a good idea to target it on a page with something to offer. Redirects not only do not have to be on notable subjects very many are on nn subjects and tend to be a good way of stopping pages on nn being recreated.
Bridgeplayer (
talk)
22:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Retarget to
Clan McDuck#Malcolm McDuck, which contains more information relevant to the character than
Duck family (Disney), and remove the incoming link from that article. The non-redirect history of the page is, in my opinion, not worth worrying about in this case; however, Bridgeplayer is correct to point out that the redirect receives more than just a handful of hits each month (perhaps this number will drop significantly after the incoming link is removed). -- Black Falcon(
talk)19:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)reply
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I Never Told You
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The result of the discussion was Move performed as uncontroversial, nothing to disambiguate. Was previously deleted in March 2010 however, but any concerns about that should go to articles for deletion. --Taelus (
Talk)
09:27, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
I don't want to see
I Never Told You (song) with a (song) on it. So please delete the redirect article so that I can move it to
I Never Told You. Thank You.
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Arnold River (New Zealand)
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Keep - doesn't meet any of the deletion criteria. We need to be careful about deleting such long-term redirects (the title is over five years old) since they are externally linked and, as a by the way, the nominator hasn't fixed the bunch of internal links. I note that the nominator's request for R3 deletion was declined as the redirect was considered to be plausible. Harmless.
Bridgeplayer (
talk)
02:01, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment - I've modified the 11 articles that linked to the redir, thus now only wikipedia and user pages still link to the redir. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Cyfal (
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15:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
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HMB
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The result of the discussion was Speedy Close, no longer within scope for Redirects for Discussion. Page has been converted to a disambig per the nominators request, an RfD discussion is not needed thanks to
WP:BOLD. --Taelus (
Talk)
09:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete - This page was deleted at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sabacc (2nd nomination). I don't have access to the deleted version but the basis for deletion was the lack of secondary sources and since there are still no secondary sources the new version does not meet "any changes do not address the reasons for which the material was deleted". Consequently I have tagged it as a G4. The page was redirected and then brought here; that is not the way to do it; we should address the underlying page. If it is a recreation then it will now be deleted; in the highly unlikely eventuality that it is enough of an improvement not to get speedied then a further AFD is in order.
Bridgeplayer (
talk)
15:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
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Editions La Decouverte & Editions La Découverte
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deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Deletion/Re-targetting - I can't find any evidence supporting the fact that the former publisher is part of the latter. Indeed, there's a contradictory statement in
François Maspero - "In 1983, Maspero publishing house was transformed into the Éditions La Découverte, later bought by Vivendi Universal Publishing."
TB (
talk)
16:09, 31 May 2010 (UTC)reply
The nominator (me) knows next to nothing about French publishing houses and accordingly listed it for discussion rather than just fixing it himself. -
TB (
talk)
06:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
Captain Loyal Hawk
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Captain Loyal Hawk is one of hundreds of characters in the
Duck universe who appeared only once. Concensus has been to not include one-time Duck universe characters on the list. Because Captain Loyal Hawk is not even mentioned on the character list, this redirect should be deleted.
Neelix (
talk)
14:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Delete as nominator - There is no purpose in retaining the history of an article about a non-notable subject. If we were to do so, we would never delete any article.
Neelix (
talk)
18:29, 31 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Retarget to
Duck family (Disney) which has relevant information. This redirect gets some hits each month so readers are obviously seeking information so it is a good idea to target it on a page with something to offer. Redirects not only do not have to be on notable subjects very many are on nn subjects and tend to be a good way of stopping pages on nn being recreated.
Bridgeplayer (
talk)
22:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Retarget to
Clan McDuck#Malcolm McDuck, which contains more information relevant to the character than
Duck family (Disney), and remove the incoming link from that article. The non-redirect history of the page is, in my opinion, not worth worrying about in this case; however, Bridgeplayer is correct to point out that the redirect receives more than just a handful of hits each month (perhaps this number will drop significantly after the incoming link is removed). -- Black Falcon(
talk)19:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)reply
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I Never Told You
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deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Move performed as uncontroversial, nothing to disambiguate. Was previously deleted in March 2010 however, but any concerns about that should go to articles for deletion. --Taelus (
Talk)
09:27, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
I don't want to see
I Never Told You (song) with a (song) on it. So please delete the redirect article so that I can move it to
I Never Told You. Thank You.
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Arnold River (New Zealand)
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deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Keep - doesn't meet any of the deletion criteria. We need to be careful about deleting such long-term redirects (the title is over five years old) since they are externally linked and, as a by the way, the nominator hasn't fixed the bunch of internal links. I note that the nominator's request for R3 deletion was declined as the redirect was considered to be plausible. Harmless.
Bridgeplayer (
talk)
02:01, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment - I've modified the 11 articles that linked to the redir, thus now only wikipedia and user pages still link to the redir. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Cyfal (
talk •
contribs)
15:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
HMB
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Speedy Close, no longer within scope for Redirects for Discussion. Page has been converted to a disambig per the nominators request, an RfD discussion is not needed thanks to
WP:BOLD. --Taelus (
Talk)
09:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)reply