I think the main problem with the article is that it is very badly organized. Some aspects of Yahoo! receive very thorough coverage, while other important aspects of Yahoo! receive very little coverage in the article.
For example, there is way too much information on the history of Yahoo! Besides the "History" section, there is a section on important events in Yahoo!'s history. The "Criticism" section should be near the end of the article, and it does not even mention the
Yahoo! trolling phenomenon - which is instead mentioned in the wrong place - the "History" section! "Yahoo! Research Labs" should not be under the "Important Events" section. Then you see a tiny "Yahoo! Next" section - it could be merged with Yahoo! Research Labs to make a "Future of Yahoo!" section.
Now, read the following two articles I wrote:
Google Groups and
Homerun. In the Google Groups article, the "Interface features" section is the most comprehensive. In the Homerun article, the "Plot" section is the most comprehensive. What about Yahoo!? If I read an article about a company, I would expect the most comprehensive section to be the one about the range of products or services the company sells or provides. The Yahoo! article, however, provides a long list of "Yahoo!-owned sites and services". Could you provide some prose, rather than a list?
If the organization/structure of the article is improved, I'll nominate it for Good Article.
Hello. Thanks for your responses. My intention in sending
Yahoo! for peer review was because I spotted several problems in the article, and was hoping other editors could work out how to fix them. Once the editors have decided how to fix the problem, we could work on the article. This does not mean I am not interested in fixing the article - it just means I don't want to do it myself, as I don't think I can do it myself either. I would be most willing to help fix the article once ways to fix it have been pointed out. I will work on creating new articles for the list and writing a summary in prose. Hopefully, after the problems with the article are fixed, we can nominate this for Good Article. I am a hopeless citer, though. Hopefully collaborating with other editors to make this a Good Article will make me a few Wikifriends (for more info, please see
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(assistance)#Unusual_crisis_-_losing_focus_of_contributing_to_Wikipedia). --
J.L.W.S. The Special One10:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)reply
P.S. In many Yahoo!-related articles, I noticed that the exclamation mark in "Yahoo!" is missing. I have added the missing exclamation marks to the article, and some Yahoo!-related articles such as
Yahoo! Mail. In the process, I broke the image links in the
Yahoo! article, and hence
User:Coolcaesar called me an "idiot". (I don't take it personally.) Perhaps the images should be moved. Perhaps we should add the missing exclamation marks to "Yahoo!" in Yahoo!-related articles. I created
Wikipedia:WikiProject Yahoo! in an attempt to raise awareness and get editors to add the missing exclamation marks as well as improving Yahoo!-related articles, especially
Yahoo!, to at least Good Article status. --
J.L.W.S. The Special One10:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Hello. I created two new articles -
Timeline of Yahoo! and
List of Yahoo!-owned sites and services - to hold the information in the "Important events" and "Yahoo!-owned sites and services" sections of the
Yahoo! article. I hope others will review the contents of these two split-up articles, and move them if they can find a better name. Now on to our next task:
The contents on the
List of Yahoo!-owned sites and services article (section in the Yahoo! article) should be summarized and rewritten in prose form, in a new section named "Services" or something similar - what do you suggest? The "Yahoo!-owned sites and services" section can then be removed from the article.
The "History" section is too long. Some content in it should be moved to other sections. The remaining content should be summarized. Perhaps we could turn the
Timeline of Yahoo! article into prose form and move it into the main article
History of Yahoo!, while leaving the "History" section of the Yahoo! article a summary of the main article. The "Important events section" can then be removed.
Let's collaborate to make this a Good Article, and subsequently, a Featured Article, while making a few Wikifriends in the proccess.
You're the first Wikipedian who called me J.L.W.S. - I wish everyone would. Hehe. I think your suggestion is good. "Businesses" - do you mean Yahoo!'s products/services like
Yahoo! Mail? (I'm not taking Accounting as a subject in school.) Another problem is that I am not an expert about Yahoo! and do not know enough about Yahoo!'s corporate structure, etc. Someone else will need to write those sections - that's why I sent the article for peer review. --
J.L.W.S. The Special One11:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)reply
I have created the
History of Yahoo! article. My next job will be to turn the "Yahoo!-owned sites and services" list into a prose section entitled "Businesses". Should I retain the list, but in another new article? After completing the "Businesses" section, and summarizing the "History" section with a link to the main article, there is not much more I can do. The rest will be up to the other editors. Hopefully, you will be able to turn it into a Good Article. I have also sent
Neopets for Peer Review in the hopes of making it a Good Article. Could you possibly
review Neopets as well? Thanks. --
J.L.W.S. The Special One14:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC)reply
People may wish to edit articles with the assistance of a 'Dates' tab and a 'Units' tab in edit mode. Simply copy the entire contents of
User:Bobblewik/monobook.js to your own monobook. Then follow the instructions in your monobook to clear the cache (i.e. press Ctrl-Shift-R in Firefox, or Ctrl-F5 in IE) before it will work. Hope that helps.
bobblewik15:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Could you do it for me, using the Date tab? I will be busy for a couple of days. When I come back, I will work on turning the "Yahoo!-owned sites and services" list into the "Businesses" section. Then I will have to work on a summary for the History section. That's about all I can do. --
J.L.W.S. The Special One14:55, 10 June 2006 (UTC)reply
I think the main problem with the article is that it is very badly organized. Some aspects of Yahoo! receive very thorough coverage, while other important aspects of Yahoo! receive very little coverage in the article.
For example, there is way too much information on the history of Yahoo! Besides the "History" section, there is a section on important events in Yahoo!'s history. The "Criticism" section should be near the end of the article, and it does not even mention the
Yahoo! trolling phenomenon - which is instead mentioned in the wrong place - the "History" section! "Yahoo! Research Labs" should not be under the "Important Events" section. Then you see a tiny "Yahoo! Next" section - it could be merged with Yahoo! Research Labs to make a "Future of Yahoo!" section.
Now, read the following two articles I wrote:
Google Groups and
Homerun. In the Google Groups article, the "Interface features" section is the most comprehensive. In the Homerun article, the "Plot" section is the most comprehensive. What about Yahoo!? If I read an article about a company, I would expect the most comprehensive section to be the one about the range of products or services the company sells or provides. The Yahoo! article, however, provides a long list of "Yahoo!-owned sites and services". Could you provide some prose, rather than a list?
If the organization/structure of the article is improved, I'll nominate it for Good Article.
Hello. Thanks for your responses. My intention in sending
Yahoo! for peer review was because I spotted several problems in the article, and was hoping other editors could work out how to fix them. Once the editors have decided how to fix the problem, we could work on the article. This does not mean I am not interested in fixing the article - it just means I don't want to do it myself, as I don't think I can do it myself either. I would be most willing to help fix the article once ways to fix it have been pointed out. I will work on creating new articles for the list and writing a summary in prose. Hopefully, after the problems with the article are fixed, we can nominate this for Good Article. I am a hopeless citer, though. Hopefully collaborating with other editors to make this a Good Article will make me a few Wikifriends (for more info, please see
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(assistance)#Unusual_crisis_-_losing_focus_of_contributing_to_Wikipedia). --
J.L.W.S. The Special One10:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)reply
P.S. In many Yahoo!-related articles, I noticed that the exclamation mark in "Yahoo!" is missing. I have added the missing exclamation marks to the article, and some Yahoo!-related articles such as
Yahoo! Mail. In the process, I broke the image links in the
Yahoo! article, and hence
User:Coolcaesar called me an "idiot". (I don't take it personally.) Perhaps the images should be moved. Perhaps we should add the missing exclamation marks to "Yahoo!" in Yahoo!-related articles. I created
Wikipedia:WikiProject Yahoo! in an attempt to raise awareness and get editors to add the missing exclamation marks as well as improving Yahoo!-related articles, especially
Yahoo!, to at least Good Article status. --
J.L.W.S. The Special One10:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Hello. I created two new articles -
Timeline of Yahoo! and
List of Yahoo!-owned sites and services - to hold the information in the "Important events" and "Yahoo!-owned sites and services" sections of the
Yahoo! article. I hope others will review the contents of these two split-up articles, and move them if they can find a better name. Now on to our next task:
The contents on the
List of Yahoo!-owned sites and services article (section in the Yahoo! article) should be summarized and rewritten in prose form, in a new section named "Services" or something similar - what do you suggest? The "Yahoo!-owned sites and services" section can then be removed from the article.
The "History" section is too long. Some content in it should be moved to other sections. The remaining content should be summarized. Perhaps we could turn the
Timeline of Yahoo! article into prose form and move it into the main article
History of Yahoo!, while leaving the "History" section of the Yahoo! article a summary of the main article. The "Important events section" can then be removed.
Let's collaborate to make this a Good Article, and subsequently, a Featured Article, while making a few Wikifriends in the proccess.
You're the first Wikipedian who called me J.L.W.S. - I wish everyone would. Hehe. I think your suggestion is good. "Businesses" - do you mean Yahoo!'s products/services like
Yahoo! Mail? (I'm not taking Accounting as a subject in school.) Another problem is that I am not an expert about Yahoo! and do not know enough about Yahoo!'s corporate structure, etc. Someone else will need to write those sections - that's why I sent the article for peer review. --
J.L.W.S. The Special One11:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)reply
I have created the
History of Yahoo! article. My next job will be to turn the "Yahoo!-owned sites and services" list into a prose section entitled "Businesses". Should I retain the list, but in another new article? After completing the "Businesses" section, and summarizing the "History" section with a link to the main article, there is not much more I can do. The rest will be up to the other editors. Hopefully, you will be able to turn it into a Good Article. I have also sent
Neopets for Peer Review in the hopes of making it a Good Article. Could you possibly
review Neopets as well? Thanks. --
J.L.W.S. The Special One14:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC)reply
People may wish to edit articles with the assistance of a 'Dates' tab and a 'Units' tab in edit mode. Simply copy the entire contents of
User:Bobblewik/monobook.js to your own monobook. Then follow the instructions in your monobook to clear the cache (i.e. press Ctrl-Shift-R in Firefox, or Ctrl-F5 in IE) before it will work. Hope that helps.
bobblewik15:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Could you do it for me, using the Date tab? I will be busy for a couple of days. When I come back, I will work on turning the "Yahoo!-owned sites and services" list into the "Businesses" section. Then I will have to work on a summary for the History section. That's about all I can do. --
J.L.W.S. The Special One14:55, 10 June 2006 (UTC)reply