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I've listed this article for peer review because I'm worried that the detailed summary of the Court judgment in the Judgment section might be construed as
original research. In fact this kind of summary of legal instruments is common in law articles on Wikipedia (usually without the kind of point by point inline citations we use here). It's unlikely that secondary sources will ever carry this level of detailed summary and I do think that an encyclopaedic article should include it. But of course I'm unwilling to continue offering these summaries if they are likely to be deleted on OR grounds. Note however that the opening remarks of the section are cited from relaiable secondary sources. It is the sections commencing "The first question" that are a concern.
Thanks, JaniB ( talk) 04:54, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
There are a number of issues here, but I'll try to break them down:
I don't really think I should go any further than the lead of the article as far as specific criticism goes, because it looks like this is basically a start-from-scratch scenario, I'm afraid. It looks like User:1d6507f9 basically crammed in 37k worth of information on December 2, and that sets off all sorts of red flags as far as stability is concerned. Although the simplest solution here would be to revert his edits, that's not really in the spirit of Wikipedia, so I'd suggest cleaning up his prose in ways you see fit based on the issues you've mentioned here. There's a lot of jargon that needs to be simplified to make this encyclopedia-worthy. Overall, the main issue here may not be WP:NOR or NPOV (although those may be present here); instead, clarity and style are my major concerns. The article is written in the style of a legal brief, rather than a summary of an encyclopedic article, and as such, your concerns about the style here are certainly warranted. I consider myself intelligent enough to understand most basic legal issues, but I'm lost after the first couple of sentences here.
Remember, BE BOLD. Runfellow ( talk) 19:36, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
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This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because I'm worried that the detailed summary of the Court judgment in the Judgment section might be construed as
original research. In fact this kind of summary of legal instruments is common in law articles on Wikipedia (usually without the kind of point by point inline citations we use here). It's unlikely that secondary sources will ever carry this level of detailed summary and I do think that an encyclopaedic article should include it. But of course I'm unwilling to continue offering these summaries if they are likely to be deleted on OR grounds. Note however that the opening remarks of the section are cited from relaiable secondary sources. It is the sections commencing "The first question" that are a concern.
Thanks, JaniB ( talk) 04:54, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
There are a number of issues here, but I'll try to break them down:
I don't really think I should go any further than the lead of the article as far as specific criticism goes, because it looks like this is basically a start-from-scratch scenario, I'm afraid. It looks like User:1d6507f9 basically crammed in 37k worth of information on December 2, and that sets off all sorts of red flags as far as stability is concerned. Although the simplest solution here would be to revert his edits, that's not really in the spirit of Wikipedia, so I'd suggest cleaning up his prose in ways you see fit based on the issues you've mentioned here. There's a lot of jargon that needs to be simplified to make this encyclopedia-worthy. Overall, the main issue here may not be WP:NOR or NPOV (although those may be present here); instead, clarity and style are my major concerns. The article is written in the style of a legal brief, rather than a summary of an encyclopedic article, and as such, your concerns about the style here are certainly warranted. I consider myself intelligent enough to understand most basic legal issues, but I'm lost after the first couple of sentences here.
Remember, BE BOLD. Runfellow ( talk) 19:36, 11 December 2012 (UTC)