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Maggie Gyllenhaal

This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because… I would like to have suggestions be made for the article to try and aim the article to Feature article status. Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks, --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC) reply


Comments from Brianboulton

I am working through the article. Here are some comments on the lead and first three sections - more will follow.

    • Repetition: In this short section the name Gyllenhaal appears nine times. See if greater use of personal pronouns can reduce this.

Note: I am happy to continue this review, but would welcome some response to the above. Brianboulton ( talk) 10:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Here we go.

  • Personal life
    • Try combining some of the short sentences in the first para, to get a better flow
      • Added a bit of info. just like in Jake Gyllenhaal's article. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:44, 24 October 2008 (UTC) reply
        • I wasn't really suggesting more information, only that the be made sentencesto flow better. As it is, it's still very jerky, a hotch-potch of facts that don't really gell together. Rather than have you guess what I mean, this is my suggested redraft of the paragraph:
"Gyllenhaal is the daughter of film director Stephen Gyllenhaal and screenwriter Naomt Foner. She has a brother, the actor Jake Gyllenhaal with whom, in December 2006, she escaped a fire that destroyed Manka's a famed lodge and restaurant in Inverness, California, where they were vacationing. Gyllenhaal has been in a relationship with actor Peter Sarsgaard, a close friend of Jake's, since 2002; they have a daughter Ramona, born October 4, 2006, and live in Brooklyn, New York." Brianboulton ( talk) 20:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Controversy: No specific comments.

General: The article is not too far off FAC standard. It will have a good chance, in my view, if you do the following:-

  • Complete the amendments suggested above
  • Expand the lead so that it summarises the whole article. You could say more about her acting career, including stage/TV roles. Aim for about 350 words (it's about half that at present)
  • Try to get someone to copyedit throughout. I have weeded out some awkward phrases, but a skilled copyeditor can help a lot.
  • Get one of the image experts to check there are no hidden snags with the images. I always recommend getting image issues dealt with before FAC if possible. What I tend to do for my own articles is look at the FAC page to see who is commenting on images there, then leave a polite request on their talk page to take a look at my article. That usually works.

Please leave a note on my talkpage when you decide to take this to FAC. Good luck with it, Brianboulton ( talk) 10:46, 24 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Comments from Giants2008

Responding to a talk-page request, I find an article in pretty good shape. I have no experience with movie star bios, meaning that my ability to find glitches is somewhat limited. Still, I found some things for you to check out.

Along with Brianboulton's suggestions above, these should be useful to you. I strongly recommend following his advice, as it will improve this article's chances at FAC substantially. Giants2008 ( 17-14) 03:33, 28 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Comments from Ink Runner ( talk · contribs) in response to a talk page request
I'll just cover prose since I think most MoS- and citation-related issues have been addressed already.

  • "Gyllenhaal was born in New York City, New York, the daughter of film director Stephen Gyllenhaal and film producer and screenwriter Naomi Achs." -> "Gyllenhaal was born in New York City to film director Stephen Gyllenhaal and film producer and screenwriter Naomi Achs."
  • "Her father was raised in the Swedenborgian religion and is a descendant of the Swedish noble Gyllenhaal family; her last Swedish ancestor was her great-great-grandfather, Leonard Gyllenhaal, a leading Swedenborgian who supported the printing and spreading of Swedenborg's writings." -> "Her father was raised in the Swedenborgian religion and is of the Swedish noble Gyllenhaal family; her last purely Swedish ancestor was her great-great-grandfather, Leonard Gyllenhaal, a leading Swedenborgian who supported the printing and spreading of Swedenborg's writings." I changed "last Swedish ancestor" to "last pure Swedish ancestor", since, of course, her father is Swedish. If that's not true (if her father, too, was pure Swedish), then maybe you could change it to "last ancestor from Sweden".
  • "In 1995, Gyllenhaal graduated from high school and moved to New York to attend Columbia University, to study in literature and Eastern religions. In 1999, she graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree." -> "In 1995, Gyllenhaal graduated from high school and moved to New York to attend Columbia University, where she studied literature and Eastern religions; she graduated in 1999 with a Bachelor of Arts degree."
  • "After her studies at the Royal Academy, she worked a summer job in an upscale restaurant in Massachusetts, as a waitress." -> "After studying at the Royal Academy, she worked a summer job as a waitress in an upscale Massachusetts restaurant."
  • "Gyllenhaal's first film roles were directed by her father: Waterland (1992), her feature film debut, A Dangerous Woman (1993), and Homegrown (1998)—the latter two also featured her brother." -> "Gyllenhaal's first films—her feature film debut, Waterland (1992); A Dangerous Woman (1993); and Homegrown (1998)—were directed by her father; the last two also featured her brother.
  • "Along with their mother..." Remove "along".
  • "After graduating from college she had a series of supporting roles, which included Cecil B. Demented (2000), Riding in Cars with Boys (2001), and 40 Days and 40 Nights (2002)." -> "After graduating from college, she played supporting roles in movies like Cecil B. Demented (2000), Riding in Cars with Boys (2001), and 40 Days and 40 Nights (2002)."
  • "In her theatrical debut, she starred on the Berkeley Repertory Theatre stage in Patrick Marber's Closer. Production started in May 2000 and ended in mid-July of that year.[14] She received favorable critical reviews." -> "She made her theatrical debut the Berkeley Repertory Theatre production of Patrick Marber's Closer, for which she received favorable reviews. Production started in..."
  • "In the New York Times review of the film, critic Stephen Holden noted:" -> "New York Times critic Stephen Holden noted:"
  • "The film received generally favorable reviews and Gyllenhaal's performance earned her the Best Breakthrough Performance from the Online Film Critics Society, a first Golden Globe nomination and ..." -> "The film received generally favorable reviews, and Gyllenhaal's performance earned her the Best Breakthrough Performance award from the Online Film Critics Society, her first Golden Globe nomination, and ..."
  • "In 2003, she appeared in Mona Lisa Smile starring Julia Roberts" -> "In 2003, she co-starred with Julia Roberts in Mona Lisa Smile."
  • "Gyllenhaal plays Reilly's sister, a thoroughly straight hotel manager forced to help her crooked brother by seducing one of his patsies." -> "Gyllenhaal played an honest hotel manager forced to help her crooked brother (Reilly) by seducing one of his victims [?]" I'm not sure what a patsy is, but if it's a slang term, it should be replaced with a more standard word.
  • "Gyllenhaal continued in theater acting, in a production of Tony Kushner's Homebody/ Kabul in Los Angeles, as Priscilla, the Homebody's daughter, played by Linda Emond, who spends most of the play searching in the city of Kabul, Afghanistan for her ever-elusive mother." -> "Gyllenhaal returned to theater in a Los Angeles production of Tony Kushner's Homebody/ Kabul as Priscilla, the Homebody's daughter, who spends most of the play searching for her elusive mother in Kabul, Afghanistan."
  • "Reviewing the production, Ben Brantley of The New York Times wrote:" Remove the "Reviewing the production" part, since the quote makes it obvious he's reviewing it.
  • "Returning to her film career, Gyllenhaal starred in the 2005 comedy-drama Happy Endings, in which she played an adventuress singer who seduces a young gay musician, played by Jason Ritter, as well as his rich father, Tom Arnold." -> "Gyllenhaal's next film role was in the 2005 comedy-drama Happy Endings, in which she played an adventuress singer who seduces a young gay musician (Jason Ritter) as well as his rich father (Tom Arnold)."
  • "She further recorded songs" -> "She also recorded songs"
  • "Gyllenhaal was invited to join the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences the following year." -> "Gyllenhaal was invited to join the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences in 2006."
  • "...feel the ticking of her biological clock." What does this mean? Is there a more standard phrase that can be substituted?
    • Don't know how to explain it, but it means she's getting old and she feels, in the film, that its time for her to settle down and start a family. Like I said, don't know how to write it. Do you know what I'm trying to say? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:15, 11 November 2008 (UTC) reply
  • "She lent her voice as Elizabeth "Zee" in the computer animated horror film Monster House." -> "She voiced Elizabeth "Zee" in the CGI horror film Monster House."
  • "In February 2008, Gyllenhaal was cast to play the role of Suky in Rebecca Miller's The Private Lives of Pippa Lee, but pulled out before production began in March. She was replaced by Maria Bello." -> "In February 2008, Gyllenhaal was cast to play Suky in Rebecca Miller's The Private Lives of Pippa Lee but pulled out before production began and was replaced by Maria Bello."
  • "She finished filming the comedy Farlanders, set to be released in 2009. Gyllenhaal plays a bohemian college professor who is an old friend of John Krasinski's character in the film." -> "She recently finished filming the comedy Farlanders (to be released in 2009), in which she plays a bohemian college professor who is an old friend of John Krasinski's character."
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maggie Gyllenhaal

This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because… I would like to have suggestions be made for the article to try and aim the article to Feature article status. Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks, --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC) reply


Comments from Brianboulton

I am working through the article. Here are some comments on the lead and first three sections - more will follow.

    • Repetition: In this short section the name Gyllenhaal appears nine times. See if greater use of personal pronouns can reduce this.

Note: I am happy to continue this review, but would welcome some response to the above. Brianboulton ( talk) 10:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Here we go.

  • Personal life
    • Try combining some of the short sentences in the first para, to get a better flow
      • Added a bit of info. just like in Jake Gyllenhaal's article. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:44, 24 October 2008 (UTC) reply
        • I wasn't really suggesting more information, only that the be made sentencesto flow better. As it is, it's still very jerky, a hotch-potch of facts that don't really gell together. Rather than have you guess what I mean, this is my suggested redraft of the paragraph:
"Gyllenhaal is the daughter of film director Stephen Gyllenhaal and screenwriter Naomt Foner. She has a brother, the actor Jake Gyllenhaal with whom, in December 2006, she escaped a fire that destroyed Manka's a famed lodge and restaurant in Inverness, California, where they were vacationing. Gyllenhaal has been in a relationship with actor Peter Sarsgaard, a close friend of Jake's, since 2002; they have a daughter Ramona, born October 4, 2006, and live in Brooklyn, New York." Brianboulton ( talk) 20:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Controversy: No specific comments.

General: The article is not too far off FAC standard. It will have a good chance, in my view, if you do the following:-

  • Complete the amendments suggested above
  • Expand the lead so that it summarises the whole article. You could say more about her acting career, including stage/TV roles. Aim for about 350 words (it's about half that at present)
  • Try to get someone to copyedit throughout. I have weeded out some awkward phrases, but a skilled copyeditor can help a lot.
  • Get one of the image experts to check there are no hidden snags with the images. I always recommend getting image issues dealt with before FAC if possible. What I tend to do for my own articles is look at the FAC page to see who is commenting on images there, then leave a polite request on their talk page to take a look at my article. That usually works.

Please leave a note on my talkpage when you decide to take this to FAC. Good luck with it, Brianboulton ( talk) 10:46, 24 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Comments from Giants2008

Responding to a talk-page request, I find an article in pretty good shape. I have no experience with movie star bios, meaning that my ability to find glitches is somewhat limited. Still, I found some things for you to check out.

Along with Brianboulton's suggestions above, these should be useful to you. I strongly recommend following his advice, as it will improve this article's chances at FAC substantially. Giants2008 ( 17-14) 03:33, 28 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Comments from Ink Runner ( talk · contribs) in response to a talk page request
I'll just cover prose since I think most MoS- and citation-related issues have been addressed already.

  • "Gyllenhaal was born in New York City, New York, the daughter of film director Stephen Gyllenhaal and film producer and screenwriter Naomi Achs." -> "Gyllenhaal was born in New York City to film director Stephen Gyllenhaal and film producer and screenwriter Naomi Achs."
  • "Her father was raised in the Swedenborgian religion and is a descendant of the Swedish noble Gyllenhaal family; her last Swedish ancestor was her great-great-grandfather, Leonard Gyllenhaal, a leading Swedenborgian who supported the printing and spreading of Swedenborg's writings." -> "Her father was raised in the Swedenborgian religion and is of the Swedish noble Gyllenhaal family; her last purely Swedish ancestor was her great-great-grandfather, Leonard Gyllenhaal, a leading Swedenborgian who supported the printing and spreading of Swedenborg's writings." I changed "last Swedish ancestor" to "last pure Swedish ancestor", since, of course, her father is Swedish. If that's not true (if her father, too, was pure Swedish), then maybe you could change it to "last ancestor from Sweden".
  • "In 1995, Gyllenhaal graduated from high school and moved to New York to attend Columbia University, to study in literature and Eastern religions. In 1999, she graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree." -> "In 1995, Gyllenhaal graduated from high school and moved to New York to attend Columbia University, where she studied literature and Eastern religions; she graduated in 1999 with a Bachelor of Arts degree."
  • "After her studies at the Royal Academy, she worked a summer job in an upscale restaurant in Massachusetts, as a waitress." -> "After studying at the Royal Academy, she worked a summer job as a waitress in an upscale Massachusetts restaurant."
  • "Gyllenhaal's first film roles were directed by her father: Waterland (1992), her feature film debut, A Dangerous Woman (1993), and Homegrown (1998)—the latter two also featured her brother." -> "Gyllenhaal's first films—her feature film debut, Waterland (1992); A Dangerous Woman (1993); and Homegrown (1998)—were directed by her father; the last two also featured her brother.
  • "Along with their mother..." Remove "along".
  • "After graduating from college she had a series of supporting roles, which included Cecil B. Demented (2000), Riding in Cars with Boys (2001), and 40 Days and 40 Nights (2002)." -> "After graduating from college, she played supporting roles in movies like Cecil B. Demented (2000), Riding in Cars with Boys (2001), and 40 Days and 40 Nights (2002)."
  • "In her theatrical debut, she starred on the Berkeley Repertory Theatre stage in Patrick Marber's Closer. Production started in May 2000 and ended in mid-July of that year.[14] She received favorable critical reviews." -> "She made her theatrical debut the Berkeley Repertory Theatre production of Patrick Marber's Closer, for which she received favorable reviews. Production started in..."
  • "In the New York Times review of the film, critic Stephen Holden noted:" -> "New York Times critic Stephen Holden noted:"
  • "The film received generally favorable reviews and Gyllenhaal's performance earned her the Best Breakthrough Performance from the Online Film Critics Society, a first Golden Globe nomination and ..." -> "The film received generally favorable reviews, and Gyllenhaal's performance earned her the Best Breakthrough Performance award from the Online Film Critics Society, her first Golden Globe nomination, and ..."
  • "In 2003, she appeared in Mona Lisa Smile starring Julia Roberts" -> "In 2003, she co-starred with Julia Roberts in Mona Lisa Smile."
  • "Gyllenhaal plays Reilly's sister, a thoroughly straight hotel manager forced to help her crooked brother by seducing one of his patsies." -> "Gyllenhaal played an honest hotel manager forced to help her crooked brother (Reilly) by seducing one of his victims [?]" I'm not sure what a patsy is, but if it's a slang term, it should be replaced with a more standard word.
  • "Gyllenhaal continued in theater acting, in a production of Tony Kushner's Homebody/ Kabul in Los Angeles, as Priscilla, the Homebody's daughter, played by Linda Emond, who spends most of the play searching in the city of Kabul, Afghanistan for her ever-elusive mother." -> "Gyllenhaal returned to theater in a Los Angeles production of Tony Kushner's Homebody/ Kabul as Priscilla, the Homebody's daughter, who spends most of the play searching for her elusive mother in Kabul, Afghanistan."
  • "Reviewing the production, Ben Brantley of The New York Times wrote:" Remove the "Reviewing the production" part, since the quote makes it obvious he's reviewing it.
  • "Returning to her film career, Gyllenhaal starred in the 2005 comedy-drama Happy Endings, in which she played an adventuress singer who seduces a young gay musician, played by Jason Ritter, as well as his rich father, Tom Arnold." -> "Gyllenhaal's next film role was in the 2005 comedy-drama Happy Endings, in which she played an adventuress singer who seduces a young gay musician (Jason Ritter) as well as his rich father (Tom Arnold)."
  • "She further recorded songs" -> "She also recorded songs"
  • "Gyllenhaal was invited to join the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences the following year." -> "Gyllenhaal was invited to join the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences in 2006."
  • "...feel the ticking of her biological clock." What does this mean? Is there a more standard phrase that can be substituted?
    • Don't know how to explain it, but it means she's getting old and she feels, in the film, that its time for her to settle down and start a family. Like I said, don't know how to write it. Do you know what I'm trying to say? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:15, 11 November 2008 (UTC) reply
  • "She lent her voice as Elizabeth "Zee" in the computer animated horror film Monster House." -> "She voiced Elizabeth "Zee" in the CGI horror film Monster House."
  • "In February 2008, Gyllenhaal was cast to play the role of Suky in Rebecca Miller's The Private Lives of Pippa Lee, but pulled out before production began in March. She was replaced by Maria Bello." -> "In February 2008, Gyllenhaal was cast to play Suky in Rebecca Miller's The Private Lives of Pippa Lee but pulled out before production began and was replaced by Maria Bello."
  • "She finished filming the comedy Farlanders, set to be released in 2009. Gyllenhaal plays a bohemian college professor who is an old friend of John Krasinski's character in the film." -> "She recently finished filming the comedy Farlanders (to be released in 2009), in which she plays a bohemian college professor who is an old friend of John Krasinski's character."

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