I am considering further improving this list to possibly nominate it FLC. I created this list a few years ago when I looked at the RIAA's certifications for Latin albums. As the list mentions, the RIAA has a special certification for Spanish-language which is why I compiled this list. I'd like to know if this article makes complete sense to the reader and if there's anything in the prose that might fall under original research. I also liked suggestions for improving the grammar in the prose if necessary. I've based this list on the
List of best-selling albums in the United Kingdom with permission by the editor who helped promote to FL. I'm also considering adding sales provided by Nielsen SoundScan, but I'm not sure if I can find sales for every album listed in the article. Thank you,
Erick (
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19:12, 16 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Comments from Calvin999
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Billboard magazine which → by ''[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]'' which
Fixed
The first Latin albums chart were compiled → It's one chart, so it should be "was compiled", not "were compiled", unless there is more than one Latin album chart?
LP's from the US territory of Puerto Rico was included → Opposite situation. Albums were included, so it would be "were included"
Fixed
for Latin albums. → Remove, just because 'Latin albums' is being a bit repetitive.
Fixed
On June 1985, → Unless you give the day, it would be "In June 1985"
Fixed
into the chart → Not needed.
Fixed
Mi Tierra spent 25 → The album spent/ It spent. (You've just mentioned it as the subject, so you don't need to say it again so soon, as it sounds repetitive).
Fixed
weeks at number one in 1993 → weeks atop in 1993 (Again, repetition of 'number one')
Fixed
33 weeks at this position in → 33 weeks in
Fixed
1994 and was → 1994, becoming
Fixed
at number one in the Billboard 200, → at number one on the Billboard 200,
Fixed
making Selena the first Hispanic singer to debut at the top of this chart. → making her the first Hispanic singer to do so.
Fixed
main influential for → main influence for
Fixed
You write 11× Platinum and then later 35 times. Keep it consistent with how you format/phrase it.
Fixed
In the Key, I'd write (RIAA) after Recording Industry Association of America.
For The Best of the Gipsy Kings, it should sort under 'B', but still leave it in the same place, so just replace it with "{{sort|Best|[[The Best of the Gipsy Kings]]}}"
When I sort the Number of times certified platinum column, it doesn't sort in numerical order properly, going 11x, 12x, 14x, 16x, then multiple 1x and some 2x, then 35x at the end.
In the table, which chart is the Chart peaks column representing? The Billboard 200?
Fixed
In Ref 2, Billboard and PMG need link as it's the first usage.
Fixed
A problem I faced with my own FLC the other day is that all the refs (bar three which are RIAA) in the article are Billboard. I was told that third party sources are needed, otherwise it fails part 3b of the FL criteria, and will most likely incur opposes for your nomination. So if you can find non-Billboard sources, that would help. Otherwise, I doubt this list will stand any chance of being promoted.
I'll see if I can replace some of Billboard's sources with a third party reference.
I hope my comments help you. It's a really good list. Please ping me or leave me a talkback if you have any questions or comments. —
Calvin99914:48, 24 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Hello
Calvin999 and thank you for your input. I having trouble getting the sort key for certifications to work right. I'm trying to get it sort for Latin certifications by decimal value to represent the shipment figures, but it isn't working. I'm thinking putting back the old shipment values and sales (if provided by Nielsens SoundScan) like I did
before I revamped the list. What do you think?
Erick (
talk)
13:51, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply
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Calvin999: Right, I meant putting the shipment values with actual sales in parenthesis like I did before. I don't know how to get the sort key for shipments to work still. I'm open to any suggestion as well.
Erick (
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15:09, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply
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Calvin999: Sorted by shipment value. Like 14x Latin represents 1.4 million units shipped so it should be higher than 1x regular but lower than 2x regular. Same thing with the others like 16x, 35x, etc.
Erick (
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15:39, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah right, I wondered why you had decimalised in the sort coding (Also, don't include the dagger code inside the sort code in the future, keep them separate). Yes I think you should include the numerical certification of shipments in another column, because that isn't clear at the moment. —
Calvin99915:51, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply
¿Dónde Jugarán los Niños? looks like it has one too many zeros? It doesn't many that it sorts descending, you can click it again to sort it ascending. —
Calvin99916:19, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Calvin999 I want to thank you once more for taking the time to review this list. I'll go search for non-Billboard sources to ensure it becomes. Thanks again!
Erick (
talk)
16:54, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply
I am considering further improving this list to possibly nominate it FLC. I created this list a few years ago when I looked at the RIAA's certifications for Latin albums. As the list mentions, the RIAA has a special certification for Spanish-language which is why I compiled this list. I'd like to know if this article makes complete sense to the reader and if there's anything in the prose that might fall under original research. I also liked suggestions for improving the grammar in the prose if necessary. I've based this list on the
List of best-selling albums in the United Kingdom with permission by the editor who helped promote to FL. I'm also considering adding sales provided by Nielsen SoundScan, but I'm not sure if I can find sales for every album listed in the article. Thank you,
Erick (
talk)
19:12, 16 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Comments from Calvin999
by
Billboard magazine which → by ''[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]'' which
Fixed
The first Latin albums chart were compiled → It's one chart, so it should be "was compiled", not "were compiled", unless there is more than one Latin album chart?
LP's from the US territory of Puerto Rico was included → Opposite situation. Albums were included, so it would be "were included"
Fixed
for Latin albums. → Remove, just because 'Latin albums' is being a bit repetitive.
Fixed
On June 1985, → Unless you give the day, it would be "In June 1985"
Fixed
into the chart → Not needed.
Fixed
Mi Tierra spent 25 → The album spent/ It spent. (You've just mentioned it as the subject, so you don't need to say it again so soon, as it sounds repetitive).
Fixed
weeks at number one in 1993 → weeks atop in 1993 (Again, repetition of 'number one')
Fixed
33 weeks at this position in → 33 weeks in
Fixed
1994 and was → 1994, becoming
Fixed
at number one in the Billboard 200, → at number one on the Billboard 200,
Fixed
making Selena the first Hispanic singer to debut at the top of this chart. → making her the first Hispanic singer to do so.
Fixed
main influential for → main influence for
Fixed
You write 11× Platinum and then later 35 times. Keep it consistent with how you format/phrase it.
Fixed
In the Key, I'd write (RIAA) after Recording Industry Association of America.
For The Best of the Gipsy Kings, it should sort under 'B', but still leave it in the same place, so just replace it with "{{sort|Best|[[The Best of the Gipsy Kings]]}}"
When I sort the Number of times certified platinum column, it doesn't sort in numerical order properly, going 11x, 12x, 14x, 16x, then multiple 1x and some 2x, then 35x at the end.
In the table, which chart is the Chart peaks column representing? The Billboard 200?
Fixed
In Ref 2, Billboard and PMG need link as it's the first usage.
Fixed
A problem I faced with my own FLC the other day is that all the refs (bar three which are RIAA) in the article are Billboard. I was told that third party sources are needed, otherwise it fails part 3b of the FL criteria, and will most likely incur opposes for your nomination. So if you can find non-Billboard sources, that would help. Otherwise, I doubt this list will stand any chance of being promoted.
I'll see if I can replace some of Billboard's sources with a third party reference.
I hope my comments help you. It's a really good list. Please ping me or leave me a talkback if you have any questions or comments. —
Calvin99914:48, 24 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Hello
Calvin999 and thank you for your input. I having trouble getting the sort key for certifications to work right. I'm trying to get it sort for Latin certifications by decimal value to represent the shipment figures, but it isn't working. I'm thinking putting back the old shipment values and sales (if provided by Nielsens SoundScan) like I did
before I revamped the list. What do you think?
Erick (
talk)
13:51, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply
@
Calvin999: Right, I meant putting the shipment values with actual sales in parenthesis like I did before. I don't know how to get the sort key for shipments to work still. I'm open to any suggestion as well.
Erick (
talk)
15:09, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply
@
Calvin999: Sorted by shipment value. Like 14x Latin represents 1.4 million units shipped so it should be higher than 1x regular but lower than 2x regular. Same thing with the others like 16x, 35x, etc.
Erick (
talk)
15:39, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Ah right, I wondered why you had decimalised in the sort coding (Also, don't include the dagger code inside the sort code in the future, keep them separate). Yes I think you should include the numerical certification of shipments in another column, because that isn't clear at the moment. —
Calvin99915:51, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply
¿Dónde Jugarán los Niños? looks like it has one too many zeros? It doesn't many that it sorts descending, you can click it again to sort it ascending. —
Calvin99916:19, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Calvin999 I want to thank you once more for taking the time to review this list. I'll go search for non-Billboard sources to ensure it becomes. Thanks again!
Erick (
talk)
16:54, 25 August 2015 (UTC)reply