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List of Scottish football clubs in the FA Cup

This peer review discussion has been closed.
Thinking of putting this up for FL, wondered what else I might need to do.........?

Does the word "football" need to be in the article title....?

Thanks, ChrisTheDude ( talk) 21:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC) reply

  • Any chance the "Season" column can be extended a bit so it doesn't go onto two lines? On IE browser, at 1152 x 864, it goes over two lines. D.M.N. ( talk) 21:11, 14 May 2008 (UTC) reply
    • I've "forced" the column widths, how does it look now.....? ChrisTheDude ( talk) 21:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC) reply
      • I've made a few changes to the table widths. Thanks, D.M.N. ( talk) 15:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC) reply
Comments
  • I think some of the text needs more references, particularly the first and third pars and the last line of the second par. I would have said some of that would be easy to steal from FA Cup, but unfortunately that is one of the worst referenced articles on here. However, I digress...
  • If you're going to take this to FLC, I'd suggest creating articles, even if only stubs, for the redlinked FA Cup seasons.
  • Is there any reference available to say why and when Scottish clubs could no longer enter - I presume those in the SFA can't?
  • I'd suggest adding football to the title, but I'd gauge wider opinion on that one.
  • Just a final minor one. Do you think it should be categorised with "History of English football" as well as Scottish? After all, it is an English competition. Peanut4 ( talk) 00:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC) reply
    • The article already states when and why Scottish clubs (other than Gretna) stopped entering, complete with a reference to a BBC article, so I think that one's aleady covered. I'll get on to the others ASAP..... ChrisTheDude ( talk) 06:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC) reply
Comments
  • You may want to reconsider the bolded lead sentence in light of recent discussions.
  • I'd leave the redlinked seasons as they are. Redlinks attract creators of articles. A stub like FA Cup 1996-97 adds very little to the encyclopedia but makes the potential article-creator think that season's article has already been done. Don't know if you've been following the new criteria debates, but redlinks and stubs get a mention, in WT:Featured list criteria#Revised proposal (4) and throughout that talk page.
  • Do you intend to make it sortable? If not, there's massive overlinking (as I'm sure you know).
  • I'd make the section heading Performance of ... (singular rather than plural)
  • and would include football in the article title.
  • Could you find a more obviously reliable source for it being the world's oldest competition beginning in 1871 than an agency piece in an Australian newspaper?
  • Why did Queens Park keep entering if they were only going to withdraw? and if money was a problem, why did they continue in the English Cup once there was a Scottish one?

that'll do for now, cheers, Struway2 ( talk) 15:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC) reply

Cheers for your comments, I'll address them shortly, although I have found no source which indicates why QP apparently entered the draw five times only to then pull out........... ChrisTheDude ( talk) 15:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC) reply
Comments from The Rambling Man ( talk · contribs)
  • Not overly keen on the columns being centrally aligned, except for the season and the ref.
  • Not sure about the mix of "Round 3" and "3rd qualifying round".
  • Blackburn Rovers is overlinked.
  • I would expand the lead image size. I think, if I remember, you can go up to 300px for the lead image per WP:MOS#Images.
  • Home Counties doesn't need the C to be capitalised.

Not much else to moan about! The Rambling Man ( talk) 08:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC) reply

    • Cheers for the comments, all addressed except the column alignments, which I'll do later. I took the image about to what appeared to be the maximum size at which the quality looked OK..... ChrisTheDude ( talk) 08:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of Scottish football clubs in the FA Cup

This peer review discussion has been closed.
Thinking of putting this up for FL, wondered what else I might need to do.........?

Does the word "football" need to be in the article title....?

Thanks, ChrisTheDude ( talk) 21:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC) reply

  • Any chance the "Season" column can be extended a bit so it doesn't go onto two lines? On IE browser, at 1152 x 864, it goes over two lines. D.M.N. ( talk) 21:11, 14 May 2008 (UTC) reply
    • I've "forced" the column widths, how does it look now.....? ChrisTheDude ( talk) 21:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC) reply
      • I've made a few changes to the table widths. Thanks, D.M.N. ( talk) 15:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC) reply
Comments
  • I think some of the text needs more references, particularly the first and third pars and the last line of the second par. I would have said some of that would be easy to steal from FA Cup, but unfortunately that is one of the worst referenced articles on here. However, I digress...
  • If you're going to take this to FLC, I'd suggest creating articles, even if only stubs, for the redlinked FA Cup seasons.
  • Is there any reference available to say why and when Scottish clubs could no longer enter - I presume those in the SFA can't?
  • I'd suggest adding football to the title, but I'd gauge wider opinion on that one.
  • Just a final minor one. Do you think it should be categorised with "History of English football" as well as Scottish? After all, it is an English competition. Peanut4 ( talk) 00:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC) reply
    • The article already states when and why Scottish clubs (other than Gretna) stopped entering, complete with a reference to a BBC article, so I think that one's aleady covered. I'll get on to the others ASAP..... ChrisTheDude ( talk) 06:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC) reply
Comments
  • You may want to reconsider the bolded lead sentence in light of recent discussions.
  • I'd leave the redlinked seasons as they are. Redlinks attract creators of articles. A stub like FA Cup 1996-97 adds very little to the encyclopedia but makes the potential article-creator think that season's article has already been done. Don't know if you've been following the new criteria debates, but redlinks and stubs get a mention, in WT:Featured list criteria#Revised proposal (4) and throughout that talk page.
  • Do you intend to make it sortable? If not, there's massive overlinking (as I'm sure you know).
  • I'd make the section heading Performance of ... (singular rather than plural)
  • and would include football in the article title.
  • Could you find a more obviously reliable source for it being the world's oldest competition beginning in 1871 than an agency piece in an Australian newspaper?
  • Why did Queens Park keep entering if they were only going to withdraw? and if money was a problem, why did they continue in the English Cup once there was a Scottish one?

that'll do for now, cheers, Struway2 ( talk) 15:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC) reply

Cheers for your comments, I'll address them shortly, although I have found no source which indicates why QP apparently entered the draw five times only to then pull out........... ChrisTheDude ( talk) 15:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC) reply
Comments from The Rambling Man ( talk · contribs)
  • Not overly keen on the columns being centrally aligned, except for the season and the ref.
  • Not sure about the mix of "Round 3" and "3rd qualifying round".
  • Blackburn Rovers is overlinked.
  • I would expand the lead image size. I think, if I remember, you can go up to 300px for the lead image per WP:MOS#Images.
  • Home Counties doesn't need the C to be capitalised.

Not much else to moan about! The Rambling Man ( talk) 08:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC) reply

    • Cheers for the comments, all addressed except the column alignments, which I'll do later. I took the image about to what appeared to be the maximum size at which the quality looked OK..... ChrisTheDude ( talk) 08:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC) reply

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