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I've listed this article for peer review because I am taking it for FAC at some point, but it is a tad on the short side and I was wondering what I am missing -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 05:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
In response to your question above, here is some information that might be missing:
I found some articles from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review and Pittsburgh Post-Gazette on Gale Onefile. Let me know if you need help accessing these articles. Z1720 ( talk) 22:11, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Some further thoughts:
I'm posting a bunch of questions as prompts, hoping this will bring new ideas and sections to the article. Since the article is short right now, any additional information will help. Let me know if you have any questions. Z1720 ( talk) 16:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Lion Attacking a Dromedary was created by French taxidermist Édouard Verreaux, part of Maison Verreaux.- I didn't know what Maison Verreaux is/was, and there's no article about it to link to. I understand that it was a family business that traded specimens 1, 2, but I think some explanation would be beneficial. RetiredDuke ( talk) 16:46, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
"the foremost supplier of natural history specimens in the world at the time.", and I think a small background on Maison Verreaux might be good. Sorta like Sutton Hoo Helmet (sculpture), but not nearly as long. RetiredDuke ( talk) 17:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
is a fictional pastiche of five North African cultures and is based on what Verreaux thought an Arab looked like, I thought immediately about the figure's facial features; but then I read the sources and they say:
We’ve looked at his costume, and it is derived from five different North African cultures.and
The subject’s costume has been determined to be “derived from” at least five separate North African cultures( USA today) and
The clothes on the “Arab” represent a mix of North African fashion.(The source is not in the article, it's from here) - Maybe clarify we're talking about costume/fashion here? RetiredDuke ( talk) 17:40, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Museum officials knew there were real human teeth in the mannequin and that the Verreaux brothers who created it had infamously taxidermied an African tribesman in 1830, but the museum had maintained there was no evidence of other human parts in the display., which makes sense to me because the teeth look real. RetiredDuke ( talk) 17:46, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:12, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
This is very, very far outside of my area of expertise so apologies in advance if I comment on something very obvious. Below are some quick comments, but I will read through the article more thoroughly later this week.
Despite the criticism, the diorama is considered to be Verreaux's masterpiece., is a very strong statement and I do not think it is entirely accurate (at least according to the information provided in the article). From what I can see in the article, only Miquel Molina holds this view. When I first read the lead, I thought this was either a consensus from multiple people or at least a view held by multiple people. I think the current wording is too strong if this is a view held by only one person.
I hope these comments are helpful. I will look through the article again later this week. Have a great rest of your week. Aoba47 ( talk) 23:21, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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I've listed this article for peer review because I am taking it for FAC at some point, but it is a tad on the short side and I was wondering what I am missing -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 05:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
In response to your question above, here is some information that might be missing:
I found some articles from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review and Pittsburgh Post-Gazette on Gale Onefile. Let me know if you need help accessing these articles. Z1720 ( talk) 22:11, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Some further thoughts:
I'm posting a bunch of questions as prompts, hoping this will bring new ideas and sections to the article. Since the article is short right now, any additional information will help. Let me know if you have any questions. Z1720 ( talk) 16:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Lion Attacking a Dromedary was created by French taxidermist Édouard Verreaux, part of Maison Verreaux.- I didn't know what Maison Verreaux is/was, and there's no article about it to link to. I understand that it was a family business that traded specimens 1, 2, but I think some explanation would be beneficial. RetiredDuke ( talk) 16:46, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
"the foremost supplier of natural history specimens in the world at the time.", and I think a small background on Maison Verreaux might be good. Sorta like Sutton Hoo Helmet (sculpture), but not nearly as long. RetiredDuke ( talk) 17:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
is a fictional pastiche of five North African cultures and is based on what Verreaux thought an Arab looked like, I thought immediately about the figure's facial features; but then I read the sources and they say:
We’ve looked at his costume, and it is derived from five different North African cultures.and
The subject’s costume has been determined to be “derived from” at least five separate North African cultures( USA today) and
The clothes on the “Arab” represent a mix of North African fashion.(The source is not in the article, it's from here) - Maybe clarify we're talking about costume/fashion here? RetiredDuke ( talk) 17:40, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Museum officials knew there were real human teeth in the mannequin and that the Verreaux brothers who created it had infamously taxidermied an African tribesman in 1830, but the museum had maintained there was no evidence of other human parts in the display., which makes sense to me because the teeth look real. RetiredDuke ( talk) 17:46, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:12, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
This is very, very far outside of my area of expertise so apologies in advance if I comment on something very obvious. Below are some quick comments, but I will read through the article more thoroughly later this week.
Despite the criticism, the diorama is considered to be Verreaux's masterpiece., is a very strong statement and I do not think it is entirely accurate (at least according to the information provided in the article). From what I can see in the article, only Miquel Molina holds this view. When I first read the lead, I thought this was either a consensus from multiple people or at least a view held by multiple people. I think the current wording is too strong if this is a view held by only one person.
I hope these comments are helpful. I will look through the article again later this week. Have a great rest of your week. Aoba47 ( talk) 23:21, 10 March 2021 (UTC)